Chorfs
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@AsadZ Kind of discouraging that the DC came out and said they won’t change anything if they play the Steelers again.
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@BShark He needs to watch the film
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@BShark Well, yeah. We’ll tell them that.
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Not sure if anyone is watching KC currently but former KU standout CB Dexter Macdonald has started the second and done a solid job thus far.
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Watching
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Chiefs are the only team I have ever seen that constantly tries tackling without using their arms. And, the only team I have ever seen that routinely drops the secondary back 5 yds beyond the 1st down line on 4th down pass defense.
With their defense playing this badly, they deserved to lose both last week and this week. Very unhappy rest of season if they don’t get the secondary straightened out.
Bye bye Cubbies, incidentally.
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Kansas City had better get their secondary figured out fast, they are extremely lucky Cooper had 5 drops most of which were wide open or the game ain’t even close down the stretch. They stink at tackling and just look small and underpower in the front 7.
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@kjayhawks didn’t even try to address the position this offseason. Gaines shouldn’t be in the NFL. Murray and Sorenson can’t cover a TE. Peters is just doing whatever he feels like. Its ugly.
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@Kcmatt7 I love Berry but the dudes spend more time on the IR than on the field. That’s why they should’ve gotten a better back up and drafted some DBs.
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@kjayhawks Dorsey’s refusal to use the Franchise Tag has always dumbfounded me. Did the same thing with Houston. Last year on contract, he takes the “prove it” stance. And then follows that up without franchise tagging them and forcing them to keep proving that they should be worth an outrageous contract.
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The Defense was terrible last night. Phillip Gaines is horrible. I would be able to complete a pass against his sorry coverage. But Alex lost the game when he couldn’t engineer a drive to eat up the clock.
I’m still cheesed at the ending of the Oakland KC game.
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I don’t even know why Oakland tried running plays when the passing was wide…and I mean WIDE open. Even Bender would have had a field day passing.
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My brother is a huge Chiefs fan, and he was telling me about all the Chiefs fans crying and whining about the game and once again trying to blame Alex Smith for the loss.
I just had to laugh and he agreed. - These kind of fans are the type of fans that are never satisfied. - -Like I told him if they want to find the REAL reason for the loss all any fan has to do is go to ESPN. COM go to NFL and pull up the stats, these things DO NOT LIE. . .blame your defense - -they can’t cover a cold. - -Dead Last in the NFL out of 32 teams - -KC is dead last. - -ranked 31’st against the pass - -teams yardage per completion right at 8 yds - -gives you plenty of options, 2nd - -30th against the run out of 32 teams - teams averaging 5 yds per carry. - -News Flash your not going to win a lot of games with a defense like that. - -
Don’t think Alex can help any on that side of the ball. - -Don’t try and blame Alex . Smith has the 5th best overall QB rating in the Entire NFL, that includes being rated higher then Matt Ryan from Atlanta - & my own now disabled Aaron Rogers. - -I think most people would take that. - -Still no interceptions. - -KC is # 1 in the entire NFL on offense - --IT’S NOT ALEX SMITH. -People want to bitch about play selection - -That’s not Smith, that’s your Coaching staff - -your offensive Cordinator.
They Call the plays in - -Alex runs those plays - -oh sure he can change the play - -BUT if the coach calls the play - Alex overrides it and it craps - like throwing and INT from his own play call or a fumble , or gets thrown for a huge loss - -that turns into Alex ass - the Coach going to be all over him wondering why the hell he overrode/changed their play Call. - -Their last series 3 rushes in a row. That’s not Alex - -last time I checked he wasn’t anywhere on the O-line to make that block, move the D-Lineman to clear the hole.
Don’t give the lame ass excuse that stink weed the rookie could come in and do better, oh sure that sounds good now - - he is a damn rookie , your not finding hardly any rookies that can come right in from the start. - - -He is still learning the read the defense/coverages. - -Big difference between looking good in exhibition games when most the time you have guys other rookies and undrafted trying to make the roster, then the regular season against Veterans.
All you have to do is just look it up - -right there in black and white. In KC wins it’s going to be in a lot of the cases KC just going to have to try and out score the other cause the Defense really really sucks. - -Hey at least you all season isn’t over, – -at least you still have a healthy Qb. - -Mine got shot right out the window with Aaron going down but like I said and always knew - we were always just one hit away from our season going to hell. - - ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY
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@jayballer54 I think those were the same people who insisted the Royals won despite Ned Yost, and that he was only to blame for losses and should not be credited for wins. Or the people who think Self should not get credit for the Streak, because after all, we are KU and we always win at AFH – as if always winning at AFH has nothing to do with the home record rung up by Self.
Haters gonna hate, and stupidity will find a way.
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This loss rests squarely on the shoulder of the defense, particularly the secondary which was b_t_h slapped by the Raiders.
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I’ve been an Alex detractor but he was absolutely NOT to blame for the Raiders loss.
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@BShark Soley to blame? Hell no! Not even close. Part of the overall problem that will keep the Chiefs from winning a Super Bowl. Hell yes! The team is too flawed for someone less than perfect to guarantee that. Alex Smith is pretty darn good - way better than the crapfest KC had at QB since Green, but he’s not elite (i.e.Montana or Brady). And I’m afraid with that defense that’s what you’d need. I would’ve been shocked if KC would’ve won with the D on the field, the O had to close and they couldn’t. It’s just sad to watch - it’s always one unit or the other O or D that’s inept.
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@dylans You are preaching to the choir. I don’t know if Mahomes is the answer but when the Chiefs drafted him I was ecstatic.
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I think Mahomes is a complete joke personally, the chiefs don’t have a enough big receivers for his just throw it game. I guarantee Mahomes throws considerablely more picks than Smith.
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I rarely jump to these other threads, but really, we scored 30 points on the road. Our defense has to get some stops. I am not an Alex Smith fan. I’ve felt he’s too conservative (odd thing to ever come out of my mouth). Our secondary is a disaster. But our scheme is largely to blame. It’s all man to man, which creates difficulty in run support (because the defender is back to the ball). The bend don’t break philosophy, stop them inside the 20, does not bring added pressure – blitzing backers or corners, or safeties – near as much as might be helpful in late game situations. It’s a give and take. However, the philosophy held Pittsburg to 6 field goals last January. A game we should have won. A game that fell on Smith’s shoulders. I also think last week vs. Pittsburgh was a Smith issue. I don’t think the Oakland game was his loss. And I think our five wins to start the season don’t happen, but for Smith’s excellent play.
@kjayhawks I think you’re wildly underestimating Mahomes. Keep an open mind. A QB with a wild gun can be managed, dialed back, instructed. Time will tell. He will throw INTs, no doubt.
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@HighEliteMajor I think the play calling late vs Oakland was questionable as well most the game vs Pittsburgh. You could make a strong case for Smith for MVP if you look at how effective he has been, dudes completing over 72% of his passes with 15 TDs and 0picks. Now his yards aren’t overly impressive at 263 per game but that one has to consider the chiefs have the leading rusher in Hunt.
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@kjayhawks I think Smith is the correct choice for this team but you gotta try to draft QBs to try and find a franchise guy.
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Not sure why I’m sticking up for Alex Smith like am seeing as how the Chiefs aren’t my favorite team , but unless they playing GB then ya I follow them , anyways Again like I am trying to point out just a few more things to point out: - -Alex top QB in passing yardage 1979 , - - 283 yds per game , - - His rating is 120.5 - - - -2nd only behind Sam Bradford with a 124.4 rating. - -he is 165-228 for a 72,4 passing completion
Alex doing this all the main time being Sacked 21 times all ready the 2nd most trailing only behind Matt Stafford 23 times - -has to say something for Alex achieving this with that.
He has the 5th highest total QB rating off 67.8 - -Right behind Brady - -Have to say again - Alex is for sure doing his part - the blame is not on him. - -ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY
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kjayhawks said:
I think Mahomes is a complete joke personally, the chiefs don’t have a enough big receivers for his just throw it game. I guarantee Mahomes throws considerablely more picks than Smith.
Maybe Mahoney is not quite yet elite but he is by no stretch of the imagination a complete joke. He has the tools and potential to be a great QB with a huge upside. With some experience he will be a very good QB.
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Despite being behind an average O-line, Alex is playing at a very high level. He has overcome several issues from past years and that is the reason why he is in the MVP conversation
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Chiefs stink!
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Wow
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@dylans why would we have kelce pass?
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Crimsonorblue22 said:
@dylans why would we have kelce pass?
Maybe because the interception when Hill tried to pass against Denver didn’t provide a sufficient lesson to the coaching staff?
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Losing to the Giants is as bad as it gets, almost KU bad.
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I concur this loss is a major low. Several situations are working against Chiefs, key injuries on both sides, Alex not playing as well as he was earlier in the season, Reid’s coaching has been suspect - too many bad calls and predictable play calling, many holes in the Defense. I don’t think they can make many adjustments in the next few games. With AFC West so bad this year Chiefs will win the division but it is looking like another season with loss on 1st playoff game.
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The Chiefs need a CB desperately. Gaines is not an NFL caliber player.
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Chiefs secondary is a complete joke, Peters is feast or famine and as @dylans Gaines isn’t NFL caliber neither is Sorensen.
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@kjayhawks I was going to say exactly that but forgot Sorenson’s name. One of the guys who tries to tackle by hitting without trying to grab the guy. Bounces off more often than not while watching his target sprint away, it seems.
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I hope Revis has something left in the tank. He should be a huge upgrade over Gaines.
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Can we please change the title of this thread to
Chiefs
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mayjay said:
Can we please change the title of this thread to
Chiefs
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@mayjay I didn’t do that
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I kind of like it as “Chorfs” but we could change it to Chefs and I’d be OK with that too
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DanR said:
I kind of like it as “Chorfs” but we could change it to Chefs and I’d be OK with that too
I was on the fence between the two. Def don’t deserve to be called the Chiefs right now lol.
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I was at the game today
What a waste of offenseive talented roster, had high hopes that Chiefs will win today but our Defense can’t stop anybody. Every opposing QB looks like Brady. Also Peters is a Butt case, how he was acting on the sidelines after ejection is pathetic
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Can’t blame this loss on the QB. Peters needs to be suspended, he is an embarrassment to the franchise.
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I thought Smith payed pretty well as did the offense with 31 points but the secondary is terrible and Revis isn’t any good at this stage in his career. The defense really needs a complete overhaul.
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That long run Smith had was crazy good. I was hoping he shoved the defender and scored.
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Chiefs had a bad draft. Mahomes better be Super Bowl good. Because that is what he cost us this season IMO. We essentially wasted our first 3 picks on two players that basically don’t see the field.
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Not going to bother watching another game this year.
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Per ESPN
What could have been? The Texans averaged 34.7 points per game with Deshaun Watson starting, compared to 14.7 points per game with Tom Savage as the starter. When Watson got hurt he was on a streak of four straight games with at least three passing touchdowns.
Why did the Chiefs take Mahomes? He’d better pan out! It doesn’t look like Alex’s rope will be very long even though his play isn’t the root of the Chiefs problems. Poor line play and a terrible defense is KC’s downfall.
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JayHawkFanToo said:
Can’t blame this loss on the QB. Peters needs to be suspended, he is an embarrassment to the franchise.
Peters needs to be gone PERIOD a disgrace to the Chiefs with his actions, & this isn’t the 1st episode with him = -ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY
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@jayballer54 “Peters needs to be gone PERIOD a disgrace to the Chiefs with his actions …”
True, true, and really true. I will restrain myself from further commentary. You are right on point.
