2018 Recruiting Thread
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Kcmatt7 said:
BeddieKU23 said:
Matt may just never be the guy that gets first hand knowledge of what’s happening.
He is a douche and has no actual connection with the program. Other guys seem to have some sort of in with their program. I mean all you need to do is befriend even someone as lowly as a team manager. Slip him a 20 or buy him a beer for just a little bit of info. I know that my buddy has picked up probably a dozen guys who visited KU in the last 4 years without a single report of them being on campus. Or getting word of who may or may not be transferring. Or who coach gave a recruits number to and told them to hit them up. I know that Self had all of the guards texting Malik in his first recruitment. Probably half the reason he transferred here.
These are the tidbits Matt should be sharing…
Exactly. There is none of that, ever. He botched the Trae Young situation badly, the only recruitment he’s ever had a shade of connection to.
I’m a big Florida St football fan and the 247 guys on there are some of the best in the business. They have sources, they get first hand access to information and they go out and get information for their paying subscribers. Just generally looking at other places, its the same for those fan-bases as well.
The few of us that follow recruiting do a better job of sharing information then he does
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@BeddieKU23 Do we know, has he scheduled a visit t Ku yet? – Seems like I remember reading he was going to schedule. - - ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY
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jayballer54 said:
@BeddieKU23 Do we know, has he scheduled a visit t Ku yet? – Seems like I remember reading he was going to schedule. - - ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY
Nope, heard maybe end of August. Could be September. We’ll see what happens but so far he doesn’t have anything set up yet
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500 posts in this thread. That’s passion!
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@approxinfinity Isn’t this the third thread on this topic?
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@mayjay We’re trying for a new record.
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Well not sure if they are official OR in Official either way kind of looks like were not really involved/considered by Matthew Hurt anymore - - -if we ever were.
He has 4 visits set up - -Indiana - - -Louisville - - -Kentucky - -& UCLA and is working on visit with Duke & N Carolina - -boy you talk about dropping of a list. - - Might be though he is thinking about the possibility of Emmit Williams landing here and then KJ Lawson in 2019 plus good chance Of Robinson-Earl to much competition not sure but might be the reason - - -ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY
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@jayballer54 KU was involved with Hurt. JRE and Lawson are big priorities at the same position and both perceived as future Jayhawks. Looks like both sides have moved on.
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http://www.zagsblog.com/2017/08/06/2018-point-guard-jalen-carey-names-final-six/
Carey’s final 6, KU is on it. Doesn’t mention KU as a school recruiting him the hardest. Seems clear that Self really would like Dotson and Grimes, if he could pick.
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BShark said:
http://www.zagsblog.com/2017/08/06/2018-point-guard-jalen-carey-names-final-six/
Carey’s final 6, KU is on it. Doesn’t mention KU as a school recruiting him the hardest. Seems clear that Self really would like Dotson and Grimes, if he could pick.
Zag’s has probably the least amount of cred in the business and is really East-Coast slanted in every article he runs. Not to say he isn’t right, the local schools are coming at him hard.
We kicked the tires pretty good and I’d love to have Carey but doesn’t look like that will happen. He’s a kid I will follow, I think he’s got NBA potential in a few years
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Grimes will Official for Late Night and hopefully come back for a game in November!
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@BeddieKU23 That’s great news I would have to feel from a KU vantage point right? - - Wouldn’t you think? - -I truly believe the way things are looking, the feel I’m getting if we can just get Grimes & Dotson both on Campus see and feel the environment I would have to really like our chances right? - -Especially late night, as we know the place is nuts - -recent recruits have all talked about how crazy the fans are - the environment - -how loud it gets.
I was reading off the Arizona board and there are posters there that feel Grimes is coming to KU to go along with Dotson hope that turns out right - -ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY
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The biggest disadvantage to him coming in for Late Night is the staff won’t be able to spend as much time with him as they would if he came on a different weekend. I’m sure they will prioritize him among the group that comes and Late Night figures to give him plenty of opportunity to get a feel for how crazy it gets etc. Late Night is hit or miss with some. Hopefully it pays off.
If he officials and then visits for a game the following month that could be a telling sign. I don’t get the sense from any of his interviews that he is in a rush to decide and I can see him not signing in November and waiting until the spring. Where will KU’s visit fall in his other visit plans? 1st?Last Visit? etc.
I think Dotson will decide before him and if Dotson jumps on board first we could become more of an option, or less of an option if he feels the back-court is too crowded. I think Self has done a great job selling both of them on playing time and the type of offense where both can co-exist. Grimes is capable of running the PG position but his size leans more to playing the off-guard position (Newman’s current place).
I’m excited that KU is in a really good position with 2 very talented guards. Usually KU is trying to make up ground but in this case I think we have had an edge at every step of the way for both. Landing 1 is a must, 2 is putting next years squad with a leg up on the Big-12 yet again
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jayballer54 said:
I was reading off the Arizona board and there are posters there that feel Grimes is coming to KU to go along with Dotson hope that turns out right - -ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY
Just about everyone thinks Grimes will end up at KU. Even some UK people were not wanting Cal to bother. It would be a huge upset if he didn’t pick KU. That said…we saw a case of that last year and no one knows 100% what is going on behind the scenes.
It’s possible that his unofficial game visit will be as a commit.
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The best part about Grimes and Dotson is neither likely projects as OAD but both are still very good. Those are the kinds of players you really want to prioritize imo.
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@BeddieKU23 True, I read where the late night visit is going to in-official , which tells me that he is truly interestedfor sure, if he going to use his own expense coming then great - -like you say get back again for an official during a regular game - -I’m feeling good with these two. - - ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY
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Grimes has been on KU’s campus on his own dime already. Staff needs to close here.
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@BShark That maybe true, BUT the article from the phog says he will visit late night on an un-official - -so if he has already been here before, and is coming for late night on his own dime - - again then if he officials later then ya he better close
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Late night is the ov now. Per multiple reports.
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On the phog they are saying Robinson is visiting this weekend???
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Crimsonorblue22 said:
On the phog they are saying Robinson is visiting this weekend???
Ok, so I have a question. I feel it’s a legit question, some may think it’s a crazy question. it’s ok. The question is, if this guy wanted to commit to Kansas, would we want him? - - -Not eligible till 2019, has to sit a year for transfer.
Remember, we have a decent chance landing Williams which is ranked 18th in the class of 2018 and who knows may go up some, - -We have the Lawson’s Next year, - - -Then we also have Robinson-[Earle good possibility in 2019. - -so do we want this kid? - -Heard he might and I say might be kind of a sore - -getting along with team mates and such - kind of selfish - -Sooooooo? yes or no? - If he were eligible this season, I might be more inclined to take him, just not sure if he is worth the risk for the team - -might be wrong. - -ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY
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Yes. Take him in a heartbeat @jayballer54 Try for a waiver, if not granted, well he probably starts at C for KU next year…
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Williams is a PF. Gonna be tough to pull him with Dedric already on board anyway.
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Something to keep in mind with Robinson is the 2018 class is very weak for quality bigs. If Bagley reclassifies then Robinson would be the #1 big in the 18 class if he was in it. So even if he does have to sit, he would be a good addition imo.
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wow this is crazy news
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But if he’s not eligible this season I wouldn’t count on the kid being here long enough to play the following year. There’s a big mess around this kid and the people around him. Character should count and there’s no reason to believe he wouldn’t Whitman us and bail
He’s a fantastic talent. Definitely the highest risk/reward factor we may have ever gotten involved with
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WHOA.
Slater just Cb’d Zion to KU. He doesn’t make these picks without inside information.
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@BeddieKU23 Nice! He does play on the Adidas circuit and has said he likes playing with Dotson a lot and that they have discussed going to the same school.
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BeddieKU23 said:
WHOA.
Slater just Cb’d Zion to KU. He doesn’t make these picks without inside information.
Whoaaaa, wouldn’t that be crazy, I too have read about how he liked playing with Dotson, I’ll try and keep things in check BUT even the remote possibility just made me tingle just a little bit lol. - - I mean that deserves a JUMPIN - - -GEE - - HOSSA - - FAYS - - -sorry, got carried away. - -ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY
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@jayballer54 KU has always been in there pretty deep with Zion. Doesn’t hurt that he’s been playing with Dotson, that’s for sure.
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RockkChalkk said:
@BeddieKU23 Nice! He does play on the Adidas circuit and has said he likes playing with Dotson a lot and that they have discussed going to the same school.
Good point you made. That is potentially a very good thing Dotson and Zion played together. He also has said he would like to play with Quickley who’s a Kentucky lock. We’ll see, we’d hope Adidas has some pull here as it doesn’t ever seem to be the case unlike with Nike’s influence. We’ll see if Slater has some good info (which he generally does).
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Ok, now I’m dreaming a little - -but it makes me drool the thought even the remote possibility but hey that’s what dreams are for right. - -How about this for a recruiting year for 18 - - - Grimes, Dotson, Williamson & Williams I could go for that - - Williamson - SF - - - Williams - PF - - then having Dotson & Grimes - -Grimes at the 2 - - & Dotson at PG - -I would take that in a minute lol - - -ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY
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Oh and this CB change, it comes on the heels of Slater doing a lengthy interview with Zion.
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5-Star transfer Mitchell Robinson just put a picture of him in a Kansas jersey on his Snapchat story. A sign that KU may be involved?
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Now if we land him our 2018 starting line up will feature 4 transfers! Moore, Lawson X2, and Robinson? All with a rs season in the system. Plug in Vick, Garrett and our starting line up looks Solid. That doesn’t even account for anyone like Zion or if one of our bigs stick around for another year? We could be absolutely loaded for 2018!
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Any way we could get a waiver on Mitchell so he could play right away?
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KUSTEVE said:
Any way we could get a waiver on Mitchell so he could play right away? That would be nice buddy , BUT it sounds like that would be highly unlikely, more chance that he would have to sit. – -ROCK CHALK ALL ADY LONG BABY
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@BShark Is Slater’s interview with Williamson viewable anywhere? - - - or is it in the interview where he is talking more about the possibility of him and Dotson being a package deal? - - -ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY
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@KUSTEVE I do not think Robinson has a chance of playing this year. It sets a dangerous precedence. Only way out is if he plays the card that he went to WKU because of his God Father or whatever and then he left and Robinson wanted out but was already stuck due to his LOI.
NCAA can’t let him just leave and play somewhere else. Imagine how many kids would switch schools after the first time coach yelled at them… He will have to come up with one hell of an argument.
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@BeddieKU23 Once he transfers he is stuck there unless he goes pro basically. NCAA only grants you one transfer, or two if you become a grad transfer. So unless Robinson wants to go play pro ball overseas or sit out and enter next years draft he will be stuck wherever it is he transfers to. I think that is a major reason Bill takes these guys.
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If Coach Self lands this guy he has basically started a new 5 star transfer pipeline lol. Newman, Lawson, and Robinson. Basically three 5 star guys in the last 2 years. If he lands this one and he stays 2 years we will have a heck of a 2018-2019 team!
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After reading Slater’s interview, seems like Adidas is making a push on him. Good to hear Arizona dropped out of the race. UNC doesn’t sound like they are in real contention.
I think it comes down to Duke, KU and UCLA. If we can convince Dotson to come to KU we might get the edge on him.
Langford is the same. I think Adidas made a hard push on him. Down to KU, IU and UL basically.
I think we land one of those two now that I see Adidas making moves.
At this point, if Self doesn’t land 3 studs I am going to be very very disappointed. Between Langford, Dotson, Grimes, Williamson and Barrett we need to land 3 guys. Next year’s team has amazing depth and will have solid veteran college basketball players. But what we will need desperately is some playmaking on the offensive end.
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Now that we seem like w might be getting some love, with Zion, it will be huge to get him on campus for an official visit. - -If we could get him here say with Devon for a visit possible late night, couldn’t ask for more. - -Gives a chance, at least it’s a chance, even the field, let him check out the dorms, the facilities, the overall atmosphere, the environment - -can’t hurt for sure. - -ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY
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Kcmatt7 said:
@BeddieKU23 Once he transfers he is stuck there unless he goes pro basically. NCAA only grants you one transfer, or two if you become a grad transfer. So unless Robinson wants to go play pro ball overseas or sit out and enter next years draft he will be stuck wherever it is he transfers to. I think that is a major reason Bill takes these guys.
There isn’t anything stopping Robinson from going pro after this year if he has to sit. He will have met the minimum requirement. Whether the NBA will want him or not is a different story.
Character should mean something when going after this guy. The first impression he has made in College is not a good one. Yes he’s a young kid, mistakes happen, kids change their minds. I know Self wants to have the most talented players out there but this one comes with a lot of red flags and questions.
I personally think he ends up at LSU. Kind of a Newman situation where he choose the wrong school first time around because of outside pressure
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@BeddieKU23 Self would approach him like he did Newman and make it clear if he comes to Kansas its a 2 year ordeal if he the NCAA doesn’t clear him to play this year.
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There were a lot of guys on this very board that said Newman would bold after sitting out last year. That didn’t happen because Self explained to him and his family that he would mess up recruiting. It all worked out so far.
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Statmachine said:
@BeddieKU23 Self would approach him like he did Newman and make it clear if he comes to Kansas its a 2 year ordeal if he the NCAA doesn’t clear him to play this year.
I’m sure he would but would he really honor it? There is nothing but his word to hold that true.
Robinson has already bailed on one team and didn’t even have the courtesy to tell his team or coach he was leaving. He left in the middle of the night like a chicken.
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Statmachine said:
There were a lot of guys on this very board that said Newman would bold after sitting out last year. That didn’t happen because Self explained to him and his family that he would mess up recruiting. It all worked out so far.
Yes the concerns for Newman were valid. He didn’t go against his word.
This situation with Robinson is different.
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It might be different but it will be approached in the same manner.
