2018 Recruiting Thread
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Dotson is running with Zion this weekend in Vegas. Playing Lamelo Ichuckthebasketballattherimanddon’tplaydefense Ball today! Good opportunity for Dotson to show out against the media train Ball’s
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BeddieKU23 said:
Hurt seems to be in no rush. Duke recently offered and they will be tough for him. Minnesota has his brother and if they continue to improve in the Big-10 he could stay home and play with him. I’m not as high on Hurt as his ranking suggest. Great versatility at his size but the recent updates about him suggest he’s going to struggle defending at the next level. We’ll see how he progresses going forward.
If KU ends up with JRE + Chandler Lawson but not Hurt, I don’t think anyone is going to be too broken up about it.
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BShark said:
BeddieKU23 said:
Hurt seems to be in no rush. Duke recently offered and they will be tough for him. Minnesota has his brother and if they continue to improve in the Big-10 he could stay home and play with him. I’m not as high on Hurt as his ranking suggest. Great versatility at his size but the recent updates about him suggest he’s going to struggle defending at the next level. We’ll see how he progresses going forward.
If KU ends up with JRE + Chandler Lawson but not Hurt, I don’t think anyone is going to be too broken up about it.
I’d rather have both of those that you mentioned then Hurt. We are likely in a great position for both as well both by connection and the position likely having a bunch of minutes to give them. Hurt is a big time player but I don’t think he’s the greatest fit at KU. Those things will sort themselves out as 2019 class becomes the centerpiece of things.
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@BeddieKU23 Agree. I mentioned it before I have a hard time seeing KU take 3 players that play a similar position/role. You can’t find minutes for all of them and they are all top 25 recruits that need minutes. Lightfoot will still be around and I’d bet KU adds a multi-year post in the 2018 class. And yeah rankings can be a bit tough to figure sometimes, with Hurt well he definitely has potential but part of the ranking might be how he projects at an NBA SF, which I don’t care about at all. JRE is a grinder that would flourish under Self.
So an aside here: how has 247 not stopped those multi-board threads yet? Maybe they like the fighting because it drums up page hits but damn I just went through that Barrett thread and it’s embarrassing all around.
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@BShark :
The multi-board threads are a disaster. They always end ugly.
The Duke faithful have been fed months and months of Barrett is going to Duke crap along with every other top prospect they have sniffed around on. They will get some like they do every year but its utterly insane how bad they act over the smallest thing.
When Duke lands Reddish I don’t know how they sell Barrett. Just as Kentucky with Zion. Calipari will probably tell RJ he can play PG and C if he wants so maybe Kentucky can still convince him but logically I would think RJ will be looking past the “two recruiting powers”. Hopefully that’s the case and KU puts in the effort to get him on campus
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@BeddieKU23 Yet if you were to ask Oregon people about RJ and they are going to tell you that is pretty much a sure thing he is going to commit to Oregon because of there Canadian Pipeline lol - - -ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY
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jayballer54 said:
@BeddieKU23 Yet if you were to ask Oregon people about RJ and they are going to tell you that is pretty much a sure thing he is going to commit to Oregon because of there Canadian Pipeline lol - - -ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY
Oregon will probably be in this. His friend Kigab who he just won gold with is going to Oregon. Shittu another one of his buddies is considering Oregon as well.
But Oregon fans are overplaying the Canadian angle a little too much when it comes to the type of recruit Barrett is. They tend to get underrated guys, not the best prospect in the class. The 2 best Canadians in recent years have been Andrew Wiggins and Jamal Murray who went to blue-bloods KU and UK. So Oregon’s pipeline has little to do with guys of that stature. It’s funny what people will bicker about when this kids recruitment is far from being over
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BeddieKU23 said:
@BShark :
The multi-board threads are a disaster. They always end ugly.
The Duke faithful have been fed months and months of Barrett is going to Duke crap along with every other top prospect they have sniffed around on. They will get some like they do every year but its utterly insane how bad they act over the smallest thing.
When Duke lands Reddish I don’t know how they sell Barrett. Just as Kentucky with Zion. Calipari will probably tell RJ he can play PG and C if he wants so maybe Kentucky can still convince him but logically I would think RJ will be looking past the “two recruiting powers”. Hopefully that’s the case and KU puts in the effort to get him on campus
Duke’s GONNA SIGN 10 KIDS according to that one poster. That’d be something…
Matt Scott pretty much confirmed it with Barrett in a VIP post. He was hedging and obviously it’s harder to trust him after Trae Young but it lines up with stuff I was reading elsewhere.
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Some more pub for Dotson. Really doing his thing this summer. Have to think he’ll be moving up.
From Rivals: Which player is the most talked about among college coaches?
Two guys seemed to be discussed by college coaches more than others: Devon Dotson and Tyler Herro. Dotson has continued to go up against some of the top point guards in his 2018 class and come out on the other side as the winner of each battle. He has been described as a bad dude, the perfect phrasing for the competitive nature and consistent winning background of the Carolina native.
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Where Bill was off to rectuing recently- Mayhem:
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@dylans The article after that was about the antics of Lavar, including his blunt statement that the refs in a game last week were cheating (he took his team off the court and forfeited). Hope they sue his ass for slander and defamation!
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@mayjay I just wish the media would turn a blind eye to that man so I don’t know every little thing he does as he fades into obscurity.
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@BeddieKU23 That’s my boy lol - - just keeping fingers crossed. - - ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY
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dylans said:
Where Bill was off to rectuing recently- Mayhem:
http://www.espn.com/mens-college-basketball/story/_/id/20167079/with-massive-crowd-hand-lamelo-ball-zion-williamson-showdown-goes-on Tell me I’m dreaming, Don’t wake me up. Even though feel chances with Zion are very slim - -it was sooooooo, sweet to see him school Ball on more then one occasion. One trip down the floor Ball was guarding him - -well I’ll use that term very loosely and Zion left him holding his strap finished with a monster flush, Another time Ball’s lazy pass - -Zion steals and flush. Man I love anything making the Ball clan look stupid and Zion did EXACTLY that, Where ever Williamson lands that School is getting a stud. - -Williamson took on THREE defenders one time and finished plus one - -just crazy. - - - ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY
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Zion is crazy good. At this level there is literally no one at his size that can stop him. Haven’t seen that since Lebron.
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@BeddieKU23 Living in SC, I am looking forward to this HS season here, and all of the attention ZW will get!
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Especially if he doesn’t sign in the fall I can see this excitement that has followed him all July continuing. SC may never have a kid in their state that will be like him again
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@BeddieKU23 The downside about him being local in South Carolina is, of course, the fact that it seriously reduces KU’s chances of getting him since 4 other big contenders are close enough for him to play in front of family almost every game. UK, UNC, Duke, and SC.
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mayjay said:
@BeddieKU23 Living in SC, I am looking forward to this HS season here, and all of the attention ZW will get!
Oh you know he will be getting ALL KINDS of attention, but hell he is use to that already - -absolute animal. - -ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY
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@BeddieKU23 Ya he really has some tools, wish there was a way for us to snag him lol - - - ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY
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I see that some guys we recruiting have been invited to the Steph Curry SC 30 select Camp that’s happening from August 6th-8th:
The 4 that I saw, that stuck out were, Devon Dotson, Jahon Quinerly, - -and then Reed - -then was good to se kind of surprised me a little, was Robinson Earl - -had been invited - -awesome.
Some other notables : - - Bol, Bol – -Cameron Reddish, Cassius Stanley, Jontay Parker, Keldon Johnson, Moses Brown, Scottie Lewis, & Bryan Antoine - -23 players invited. - – -ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY
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mayjay said:
@BeddieKU23 The downside about him being local in South Carolina is, of course, the fact that it seriously reduces KU’s chances of getting him since 4 other big contenders are close enough for him to play in front of family almost every game. UK, UNC, Duke, and SC.
The most recent chatter that’s been circulating has him going to Kentucky to play with Quickley. Quickley is also visiting KU but last month said Kentucky was his leader. Probably going to be tough if he follows through with that
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You know, were sitting in pretty good shape on 2019. If we could close on these three # 22 Chandler Lawson - - -me I feel that he is now a brainer, feel he is ours, get him , ranked the # 4 PF - - - -Land #23 Robinson Earl, which I feel pretty good about the # 5 PF - - -then land # 27 Harvey out of Topeka Hayden also got pretty good feel for # 2 CG - -then even be in the hunt for RJ Barrett I would say we had a monster year. - -Harvey made a pretty big jump they updated the rankings on the 24th of this month and this is where they stand - - -ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY
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Question: Do any of you that are local attend any of the AAU tournaments in Lawrence or KC to see the recruits up close? Can anyone attend? Hard to get a seat? Just curious.
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Well I read where my favorite - -Devon is visiting Arizona from the 1st-3rd of August, might be bad BUT still believe its KU/Fla . He said he is still going to visit KU & Florida. -I don’t think the Pillsbury pop and dough boy Miller gets this one. Bagley visiting there to, stills says he gonna visit KU - -whoopee we know where he is going.
On a little side bar USC trying to score brownie points with Bagley parents, offered all THREE Bagley’s while he is on his visit - -now there is an idea lol. - - ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY
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5 star recruit Mitchell Robinson is back on the market from Western Kentucky.
And look who just happens to have a open scholarship available in need of a big.
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@BeddieKU23 omgosh! He’s really good! Isn’t that where coleby went?
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Crimsonorblue22 said:
@BeddieKU23 omgosh! He’s really good! Isn’t that where coleby went?
Yes. The entire reason he went to WKU was because his godfather was on staff. Williams left the staff earlier this month and now Robinson has left as well. The problem for Robinson now is that he had already enrolled in classes at WKU. Not sure how it works but he probably won’t get a full release I’m guessing. I had read oversea’s could be an option for him as well. If by miracle he does get released to play this season I’d hope KU was after him. How many schools have open scholarships this late ya know?
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jayballer54 said:
Well I read where my favorite - -Devon is visiting Arizona from the 1st-3rd of August, might be bad BUT still believe its KU/Fla . He said he is still going to visit KU & Florida. -I don’t think the Pillsbury pop and dough boy Miller gets this one. Bagley visiting there to, stills says he gonna visit KU - -whoopee we know where he is going.
On a little side bar USC trying to score brownie points with Bagley parents, offered all THREE Bagley’s while he is on his visit - -now there is an idea lol. - - ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY
We should be scared of this visit. Dotson has been eating up what Miller has been selling.
Still going to visit doesn’t mean he will. We don’t have a date for his visit as of today. I’m not trying to say anything but without a visit lined up, he could pop for them. We better pray he leaves Tuscon without committing
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BeddieKU23 said:
5 star recruit Mitchell Robinson is back on the market from Western Kentucky.
And look who just happens to have a open scholarship available in need of a big.
Dam, could we possibly get that lucky? - - -JAYHAWK FOR LIFE
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@BeddieKU23 What do you mean a full release? - - Could he be another transfer? - -but then he would have to sit out - -that wouldn’t work with what we got and possibly coming next year. - -jAYHAWK FOR LIFE
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@BeddieKU23 KU isn’t landing Dotson period. Grimes is priority and KU isn’t getting both them. I also don’t know if Arizona gets Dotson either considering they already have Brandon Williams inked. I’d rather Grimes anyway because he fill the bigger need for KU.
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@jayballer54 No, he wouldn’t have to sit out because he’s leaving before classes start. Just like Whitman won’t have to sit out either because of the timing of his departure.
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I disagree
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@BeddieKU23 KU flat out is not signing 2 top rated PG’s in 2018 when they already have Charlie Moore who will have spent a year in the program at that point.
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Here is the NCAA guidance that seems on point:
Transfer trigger: A condition that affects your transfer status. A transfer student is a student who transfers from a collegiate institution after having triggered any of the conditions:
-Enrolled full-time during any term and attended class or in Division I if you are enrolled full time and are on campus on the opening day of classes.
-Reported for a regular squad practice.
-Practiced or competed while enrolled less than full-time…
-Received institutional financial aid while attending summer school.
(Italics added)
Whitman played but was he there for the first practice for Italy? That might not be considered a “regular practice”; he apparently did not enroll for the summer term.
Even if someone enrolls early, it looks like they have to be there on the first day of classes for the transfer rules, like a season out, to get triggered.
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You can say what you feel as you have and I don’t agree
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@BeddieKU23 Then explain the logic of how KU signs two 5 star PG’s when they will already have a top 50 PG already on campus and in the system for a year?
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@mayjay The Italy trip is not NCAA sanctioned which is why the transfers are eligible to play so those practices have no impact on transfer eligibility. The reason why the rules read the way they do are for the schools that are on the quarter system as opposed to the semester system. I don’t know what WKU’s academic calender looks like whether they run on a traditional calender or on quarters, but quarters don’t usually start until late September or early October and practices don’t start until mid October. Even if the WKU kid waits until after the Italy trip to come here, there’s nothing that would stop that from happening and from him playing for KU this year.
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Thanks for that. Looks like he needs a waiver to not sit a year. The ESPN scroll pointed that out.
Hopefully they let him go anywhere and Bill Self is his first call
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@BeddieKU23 Yep. From the Louisville paper:
“Robinson arrived in Bowling Green on July 9 and attended summer school for two weeks prior to his departure, the report said.”
I guess if that wasn’t a “term” under the rules he would not need a waiver, but that seems really unlikely.
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More on Robinson, including his background of drama at WKU, which I’d forgotten:
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Trainwreck of a situation but if he can play this year I think he is a take. However it is being floated that he will go to UNC or play overseas.
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New names: Zion Griffin, Keyshawn Embery, Jalen Lecque (2019).
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@BShark So talk to me, what’s this guy all about? - -Size - -position, 2018 - -2019 - -what? - -where is he ranked? - -JAYHAWK FOR LIFE
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Terrence Hargrove Jr 2019 wing 6’6’’ currently unranked
Zion Griffin 2018 wing/combo forward 6’5’’ currently unranked but on the rise, kid can BALL
Keyshawn Embery 2018 PG 6’3’’ fringe top 200 guy
Jalen Lecque 2019 PG 6’4’’ top 25 type talent major baller
KU watched all these players this weekend in addition to names you expect such as JRE, Harvey, N’faly Dante (MONSTER 2020 MEGASTUD CENTER), Malik Hall, Bryce Thompson, Ty Berry and Cole Anthony.
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David McCormack unofficially visiting KU in August. Plans to return for an official as well. Good start with this guy.
Oklahoma St and Duke also heavily involved as well as a few others. OSU is working hard to unofficially cheat in his recruitment doing the old “we’ll hire his AAU coach” and recruit his teammate hard.
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BeddieKU23 said:
David McCormack unofficially visiting KU in August. Plans to return for an official as well. Good start with this guy.
Oklahoma St and Duke also heavily involved as well as a few others. OSU is working hard to unofficially cheat in his recruitment doing the old “we’ll hire his AAU coach” and recruit his teammate hard.
Unofficially cheat. Dying. At least it’s open I guess.
Glad to see the staff putting priority on him. I was beginning to wonder. He might be the best traditional post player in this class. I’d love to see him at KU and two visits bodes well but it’s going to be a tough pull from Okie lite as things currently stand for the reasons you mentioned.
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Yes Oklahoma St looks tough with how they are trying to get him to commit. My hope is he looks at the roster and see’s 2 C’s that he’d have to compete with. While KU literally has Doke and may/may not have him after next season and nothing else.
Definitely is one of the best traditional post players out there. I think his development would further continue with Hudy as he’s a big that has reshaped his body over the years.
Getting 2 visits is very important in potentially landing him.
