Next recruit up
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@BeddieKU23 said:
I guess the only silver lining I could get from today was that 2018 KU will be hard pressed to lose Dotson and Grimes at this point. Self gets to sell the ocean to them both
All the playing time in the world. Hell if I’m Self I would see if Dotson could reclass lol. Gimme Jamie Lewis too.
An unrealistic want would be Quickley, who has been mentioned as a reclass possibility before.
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I keep seeing Grimes is projected as a PG, I still see him more in the combo guard role. Dotson is just an unbelievable bigger need now. Lewis is solid, I think we’ll have a tough time pulling him out the south though.
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If the atmosphere at the WVU game can’t sway Lewis I don’t want him. Ha.
Agree about Dotson. Gotta close that deal.
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Agreed, it didn’t work for Duval under similar circumstance. Lewis is probably not someone Self takes without knowing Dotson’s intentions. Regardless of ranking Dotson is exactly the point guard you build your future around
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Yep yep yep. Dotson is a top 50 talent but multi-year player. Much like Garrett. Players like that are hard to find these days.
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NC State fired Mark Gottfried today. So what happens to with their recruits?
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@Ralph said:
NC State fired Mark Gottfried today. So what happens to with their recruits?
What recruits?
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@Ralph Doesn’t look like they signed much for next season. I’m sure the word was out that Gottfried was getting the axe.
John Groce is going to be out at Illinois after the year is over as well. Tillmon would be nice.
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I was thinking of their 2016 class, they only have 1 commit this year
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@Ralph also if Romar is out in Washington, Blake Harris is available.
Someone will come out of the works after a coach gets fired. No need to rush to sign a guy. Be patient and wait on Duvall but if a good situation presents itself don’t be afraid to jump on it.
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@Kcmatt7 said:
@Ralph Doesn’t look like they signed much for next season. I’m sure the word was out that Gottfried was getting the axe.
John Groce is going to be out at Illinois after the year is over as well. Tillmon would be nice.
Illinois has some decent PG commits too…
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@Kcmatt7 i still think Duval may end up committing to Australia or somewhere overseas.
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@Ralph I think he would be stupid not to. I actually think the top probably 25 players in every class should probably go play overseas for a year. Ferguson barely got any playing time overseas and is still projected to go in the 1st round.
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@BeddieKU23 BUT didn’t he pretty much try selling the Ocean to Trae? telling Trae couldn’t figure out why such hard decision - -that Trae was going to be the starting PG for KU? what more could you ask for - -ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY
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@BShark Sooo play this far fetched scenario with me. Jamie Dixon came out of the big East for the Big 12. - -What I wonder would be the possible interest for K-State - to look at Gottfried to take squeaky’s place when they fire him? - - ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY
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@jayballer54 I don’t think Gottfried has done all that much. Has he?
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Who would name their kid “David” if their last name was Duke? Was there a boy named Adolf born in the same hospital on the same day?
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@Hawk8086 na that’s why he would be a really good fit at that high school in Manhattan – ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY
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@Crimsonorblue22 said:
Anybody not named trae young thread
Guess some can’t read. Still talking about TY.
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@brooksmd he’s dead to me
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@DanR Some parent who actually is a white supremacist would likely jump at the chance to name his kid “David Duke”. Why else?
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Blake Harris is someone I’ve mentioned before. He’s a player, I don’t understand why he’s underrated and if he was available I would hope the staff would take a look at him.
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Apparently the ocean wasn’t free enough to come here. Next year there really won’t be any doubt about playing time availability.
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He had a couple of unexpected runs in the NCAA tournament but overall he was terrible in conference play. I think this years squad which has a lot of talented pieces being so dysfunctional really made it impossible to keep his job.
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@BeddieKU23 The team that we played in 2012 in the tourney (I think?) was pretty decent as I recall. But other than that I thought he has been pretty underwhelming there.
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Good recruiter but not a great coach. I think he’s always skated by on recruiting. That 2011-12 squad really gave us a game. A few years back he overachieved getting to the Sweet 16 again. Some coach will get some good pieces to work with, obviously Dennis Smith is gone but 4 double digit scorers could be back for a new coach to groom.
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I don’t know that Washington is going to get rid of Romar unless they elevate Porter’s dad to head man. They can’t risk losing a once in a generation talent like Porter. I think they see what they can do next year before taking it apart. They haven’t recruited Seattle very well, which is basically inexcusable for the University of Washington. Porter is basically the last hope. They win next year, Romar saves his job. They don’t, he’s gone.
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Porter as a HC is not an option, with his college coaching experience consisting of 3 years as women’s assistant coach at the dumpster fire we call MU and one year at Washington he is more qualified to coach JuCo than Washington.
If Washington wants to keep Porter Jr. the only option is likely Romar, unless they can bring in a big name coach that is willing to keep Porter Sr. on the staff and can talk Jr. into staying.
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@justanotherfan Currently, UW has lost 8 straight games. The odds of them losing 13 straight games is a legitimate possibility. They play Arizona, 3 straight road games and then the conference tournament. That will make them a 2 win team in the conference. I just don’t see how in the world you could keep a coach after that. Not when he hasn’t even made the tournament in the past 4 seasons. The fan base doesn’t want him anymore. Romar was a good hire and put UW on the map. But he reached his peak. He has either lost his passion for the game, forgot how he won in the past, or was never that good of a basketball coach and he is extremely easy to beat once you have enough film on him.
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I think Romar will be at Washington next year because of the Porter’s. It sounds like the younger one might move up a year to play as well. That would give them 4 top 100 kids plus the underrated PG Harris. Hard to see them pulling the plug on that type of talent infusion. Under any other normal circumstance Romar should be gone but when you get a generational talent like Porter everything gets put on hold.
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How did getting Ben Simmons and other ranked players worked out for LSU?
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Can’t argue with any of what you posted. The issue is that if Romar gets fired and they can’t keep Porter, UW is even worse next season. Fultz is gone to the NBA, and if there’s no Porter, they have zero firepower either coming back or coming in.
Washington is bad this season. If they fire Romar, they will be worse next year. If they keep him, they might be better next year. Like I say, if they keep him, they can just fire him next year. If they fire him now, they are basically punting on next season, too.
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I saw Coach Roberts went and watched Duval last night along with two other 2018 PF prospects. Hopefully the coaches can pull the upset and get Duval away from Duke.
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@chsguy2008 I suppose we go all on him now, right? I have been reading that he is a heavy lean to Duke but I honestly haven’t been following his recruitment one bit until yesterday.
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@justanotherfan Yea I mean I see what you are saying. Money wise, it makes sense to keep Romar too. People will show up at the beginning of the year to watch Porter. Plus they would get 3 guys that are probably not OAD in the program. If you fire Romar after this year the odds of UW keeping those 3 good recruits is a lot higher than if you fire Romar now.
Tough decision. Also depends on who is out there. Can you land a young guy looking for a P5 job that you will have for 10 years? If not I guess no harm in keeping Romar… UW fans really want Brandon Roy to be their next head coach. And, it really might not be a bad move. I’m just not sure he is actually ready for a big job like that.
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It didn’t work but I know that’s the point and I absolutely agree. Romar shouldn’t have the job at Washington but I think we all know if he’s still there that it has everything to do with 1 recruit…
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Some names coming to surface - -OR mentioned again : David Duke - - Trevon, Mark Smith, - - Keane, - - Jermaine Couisnard, - – OR they mentioned going the Juco route. - - -ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY
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No Duke players listed above josh or frank in the draft according to cbs. Just saying…
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I feel confident we won’t be going to the Juco route. Spring time always brings out some options. I would take Smith if they targeted him and then find ourselves a grad transfer after the season ends.
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@BeddieKU23 Yeah I agree with you. I would rather go the grad transfer route than JUCO route. Plus, with the grad transfer route Self can definitely sell PT to those 2018 guards.
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@BeddieKU23 you could be right. - -I just saw these names throwed out by our little buddy Matt Scott, from the shiver. My Opinion of him has lessened a little over the last 12 months but hey everyone is human I reckon. - -ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY
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Just as important is the fact that if that class falls apart, they lose the other two Seattle guys (HS teammates Davis and Nowell). They can’t afford to lose Porter and two kids that grew up in Seattle. That would be a disaster for the program.
I still think Romar gets fired next year, or the year after, but you can’t give away a once in a lifetime chance to turn the program around by getting Porter (and keeping a couple of local kids) in the fold.
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Here in WA state, everyone feels that Romar is on the ropes! They’re not happy. He’ll be gone in a year or two if next season is a bust.
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@justanotherfan said:
Just as important is the fact that if that class falls apart, they lose the other two Seattle guys (HS teammates Davis and Nowell). They can’t afford to lose Porter and two kids that grew up in Seattle. That would be a disaster for the program.
I still think Romar gets fired next year, or the year after, but you can’t give away a once in a lifetime chance to turn the program around by getting Porter (and keeping a couple of local kids) in the fold.
We offered Davis as well…
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@Kcmatt7 Sorry, I’m behind, but who is Blake Harris? - I mean ya he plays at Washington, but is he someone we had recruited before of - -just askin. - - ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY
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@jayballer54 said:
@Kcmatt7 Sorry, I’m behind, but who is Blake Harris? - I mean ya he plays at Washington, but is he someone we had recruited before of - -just askin. - - ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY
Hes apart of Washington’s recruiting class. He’s from NC and having seen him play i think he’s a bit underrated. We have not recruited him to my knowledge but if there is a change at Washington maybe he looks around and I’m hoping that KU would look at him
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@Hawk8086 No I don’t think he has - I was kind of being a little smart you know what when I said that lol, another successful Coach for K-State. - man their boards are going off the charts though about possible hires - -Brad Underwood, Greg Marshall, Archie Marshal , Doug Gotleib they are ready for squeaky to go. - -Local radio sports talk show was saying at Wednsday’s game talk about ya it was a 6:00 start but the octagon was dead place not full only 80-85 % of student section was there – They said it was almost like they didn’t care if they made the tourney or not, like if we do we do - more interested in getting Bruce OUT - - EOCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY
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@BeddieKU23 Oh, ok cool thanks for the help - -I knew I could count on someone filling me in thanks - -ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY
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I don’t think they will fire Romar after this season, - -I think they will give him a little more rope see how he does with this class that’s coming in next year, then if he stinks it up - more then likely - -ya - -EOCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY
