ISU Game Thread
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Whole team loss but specifically the defense was horrendous.
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@DCHawker looked like a variation on chop called for Svi and he lined up too far behind arc.
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Huge missed opportunity…now go KSU…for today only.
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@Hawk8086 said:
@HawkChamp Yes, the 2nd half was really bad. Combined with ISU being unconscious at times. That’s how we lose at home…and why it doesn’t happen often. Some key missed FTs also contributed.
Kinda like a tournament game.
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@approxinfinity no it doesn’t make sense. Our guys choked this one away in Michigan style fashion. No adjustments whatsoever. This is how this team will lose in March
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Is this our punishment for all the negative press?
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geez, lots of hysteria here. lighten up, francis. we just played the toughest stretch of any team in college basketball. we were hit with a fake news explosion. worst case scenario, we end up tied for 1st in the b12.
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Boy this brings WVU right back in to the race.
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@KUSTEVE it does happen, but we’ve got to win the ones that are ours to win. this WAS one of them.
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@KUSTEVE no biggie? We lost on our home court to a team that has lost nine games! We were up big and let ISU do whatever they wanted. Embarrassing effort from everyone
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@approxinfinity said:
@DCHawker looked like a variation on chop called for Svi and he lined up too far behind arc.
Could well be, but DG had just hit one - might have liked his chance better on that shot since Svi hadn’t seen a ball go in the hoop in a while…
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Remember r this day people. These home
losses only happen every 1.3 years. Nice job from a team that wouldn’t quit I can’t say ours did We got out hustled &!beat. Now I’m pissed 
& that’s a wrap for now. @Crimsonorblue22 drive safe talk wit ya later
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@HawkChamp thanks, very well said!
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@HawkChamp hey I’ll still take our guys over anyone if I had to bet money in March. 20 wins 3 losses is pretty good. It was uninspired by coach and by players too. I’m sure they’ll say the same.
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Looked like alot of bickering amongst each other in the second half. Not sure if all the press is getting to then. Lucas a ton of rebounds but it doesn’t help if you just hand them right back. Several of those. Missed FTS at inopportune times. Very lazy defense second half
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@HawkChamp did you think we were going to be undefeated? we gave away a game. the 2008 national championship team lost 3 games in a week and half. i think they survived.
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@approxinfinity crazy to me… Coach just sitting on the bench alot. Like “meh”…
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Today, we saw the impact of a short bench. Tired legs happened in the second half because Self is a guy who doesn’t sub down the stretch in close games. Bring in Vick’s fresh legs for a bit and KU probably wins.
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@cragarhawk agree. And those tough entry passed to LL into 2 defenders were really bad.
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Embarrassing! Losing at home! I cant fraking believe it. What the actual frak!?
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21 turnovers was the difference. I knew their sloppiness would catch up to them and it did in embarrassing fashion. I hope they use this to be SMARTER in the future. That was just awful, awful, awful basketball
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@HawkChamp the sky is falling…oh my goodness…all is lost…
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@HawkChamp well didn’t we have over 50 at half? At least we didn’t suck for a whole game.
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@KUSTEVE the way they lost is frustrating. No energy to start the second half, sloppiness all around and they didn’t force them off the three point line.
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@Texas-Hawk-10 said:
@BeddieKU23 said:
Like I said Josh lost this game
False
True he turned the ball over I don’t know how many times 2 feet from the basket and bricked 2 ft’s
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@approxinfinity yeah pretty pathetic.
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Our defensive efficiency ratings are going to slide quite a bit off this one…This continues to project as the worst team defensively during the Self era. Being one of the best offensive teams makes up for a lot, but teams with our DER simply don’t end up as NCAA champions…
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@HawkChamp ok…you’ve had 15 posts in a row where you are apoplectic over this. we had a bad game. we’ll play another one monday. the sun will rise tomorrow.
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@DCHawker the reason is that they don’t give much effort defensively for whatever reason.
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@KUSTEVE thanks. I wasn’t good at astronomy so I needed your help. Thanks coach
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@DCHawker I’m behind this team and I think they can be good. But there has literally not been one total game that made me ever believe they cut down nets. I’ll be happy to be proven wrong. But I think if they make the second weekend it’ll be gravy
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@cragarhawk yeah, we probably won’t make the tournament now.
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@cragarhawk i agree. They seem incapable of putting in the necessarily mental effort to make good decisions both halves.
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Pissed off because we blew a 15 point lead, missed fts and silly silly turnovers. But it’s one game boys Baylor is getting spanked by KSU. We will still be up but makes Monday a must win.
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Well they were 9 of 27 last time from 3, this time 18 of 34. It wasn’t the interior d that sucked. That’s good.
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@cragarhawk said:
@DCHawker I’m behind this team and I think they can be good. But there has literally not been one total game that made me ever believe they cut down nets. I’ll be happy to be proven wrong. But I think if they make the second weekend it’ll be gravy
Imo this team has FF ability (if match-ups break right) but I could also see them losing in their 2nd game to Middle Illinois Valley State.
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@KUSTEVE thank you. I’m so glad you’re here to police everyone’s opinion that doesn’t match with yours.
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@kjayhawks all of our games are must win for seeding and the Big 12. It is stupid to rely on others losing
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Oh and on my last post someone might think oh that could happen any team…well yeah it could but I thought for instance the 2010 team was a big time favourite for the NC… So I’m just comparing how I feel about this team to past teams.
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@HawkChamp incapable of making good decisions? Come on man. Hope you mean just today.
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And with that I’m gonna tap out from all KU boards until Monday have a pleasant weekend and nice Superbowl parties if that’s your thing bucketeers.
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@BShark I think that’s a good assessment. It will definitely depend on the matchups
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@BShark yeah this team reminds me of 2010 and 2011. Both of those teams were as lazy as I can remember any team being and both lost to vastly inferior teams
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@HawkChamp come on Hawkchamp, do you really expect a top 3 team to be able to play smart and aggressive for a whole 40 minutes? then i suppose you think the coaching staff should make changes or adapt to anything that the other team is doing. then you expect us to win at HOME against a sub-par team. you really think we can play like this and not go far in march.
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@BShark later man! Have fun
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@cragarhawk I always appreciate folks with negative opinions piling on. Thank you for sharing yours.
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I think they’re pretty damn tough. But I also think something is going on right now. Or perhaps just this week. Idk if it’s all the press or what. I just haven’t seen the bickering amongst the backcourt like I did today. It’s a lil bothersome
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I know, let us all turn on each other like preschool soccer players! That will make us feel better!
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@BeddieKU23 There’s a difference between saying Jackson shares some of the blame, and he’s the only reason like you’re saying. Jackson absolutely deserves his share, but so does Graham who no showed on offense today, Svi whose defense prowess was exploited most of the second half, and Self for falling into old, bad habits of not subbing when his players were clearly running on fumes late d never brought in Vick, Lightfoot, or Coleby for a couple of minutes to let guys catch their breath.
There’s plenty of blame to go around for this one and to pin it all on one guy is neglecting everyone who no showed the second half and OT.
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@cragarhawk it could be the press. Bill needs to take control
