Hawks vs Pokes Game Thread
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Trying to look up stats on ESPN and looks like they have problems…don’t know that the game started. Well, guess that makes sense how the telecast started.
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@betterfireE your are correct. Svi is supposedly a great shooter, so he has to make open shots. VIck needs to be more active on the glass and not get continually burned by a back cut. Bragg has to play tougher - he needs something to make him mad so he won’t play soft - only he probably knows what that is. Free throws won’t lose a tournament game, IMO. It will be because we play terrible defense and have a slow start. There are teams better than OSU in the tournament that will take advantage of that.
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Interesting observation from the Duke-Louisville game. When Pitino called a time out because of mistakes, he would yell at his players as they headed to the huddle. When Capel did the same thing he would tell at the refs, just like rat face does.
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I think one of the biggest issues with this team is Josh is the only elite athlete that can play elite defense. Frank is very athletic but is short. Next year should be much improved in this regard with Doke, Cunliffe and Garrett if he plays much. If we get Trae Young I think eventually the offense could be at a similar level. Okay halftime is almost over back to focusing on this year.
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@BShark I see your point but not sure I agree. We have very good athletes that just need to move their feet faster and have a little more pride.
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Right now I feel our post defense is terrible. Either they’re not getting it or an adjustment has to be made.
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@DoubleDD do you mean one on one defense in the post?
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I think we will see this team play well this half but its gonna come down to shots made. Svi, Frank, Jackson all struggling from the floor today. Graham hasn’t really done much either from what little we saw that half.
We are shooting 10% below our season average from the floor and 2-11 from 3. That’s where the game is right now
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Svi and Graham are average to below average athletes (when comparing to other top program players, not regular people) imo (but very good college players). Vick is a good athlete but needs to learn.
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Just in general. Getting back doored is a good sign of bad post defense.
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@BShark its mostly about foot quickness lateraly. At times, we have seen Svi do that well, but many times he is slow to react.
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Just 4 assists at half, guys have to find ways to get through this Zone crap they are playing.
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@DoubleDD no, that is poor perimeter D and a result of the wing not seeing ball and man.
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I feel like the biggest reason for Bragg not playing more is that he frequently gets lost on D.
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Yea but a good post player is the last line of defense. And right now it’s hit and miss.
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@DoubleDD What is frustrating is that there are certain instances this year where they have played great defense and had good focus, but most of the time they look like they don’t want to.
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boooooooooooo
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@DoubleDD but you shouldn’t need that. Nova didn’t last year.
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Known KU fan Forte playing well.
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I’ve been trying to watch our post players on defense. At times they look like a dog chasing their tail.
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@BShark as usual. Why didn’t we get him?
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@DoubleDD yes but they aren’t our first line of defense.
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Fran for once is correct, Self wanted Smart but not Forte.
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@HawkChamp his best games r against us
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@BShark man Forte is the kind of guy that would have been very beneficial especially with his shooting
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Flop
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How different would KU be today had they seriously recruited Forte instead of a token offer and KU had landed Smart and Forte.
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YEP
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Not a cramp fran
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Joke
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@HawkChamp said:
@DoubleDD yes but they aren’t our first line of defense.
We don’t seem to have a first or second line of defense… They’ve gotten to the rim every possession this half so far…
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@DCHawker correct
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That was dumb svi he only goes right
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It’s been an issue all year.
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@BShark really for the last three years
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@HawkChamp Self only seriously recruited Marcus Smart. They never seriously pursued Forte like OSU did. It was known that Smart and Forte were a package deal and Ford recruited them as a pair and Self focused primarily on Smart.
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@Texas-Hawk-10 why is the question.
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Just laying an egg
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Every friggin’ possession…
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Zone is working
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And this is why you can’t rely on offense. One bad shooting game and you are out of the tournament. UCLA can probably get away with that this year, though.
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I think the
cat is finally outta da bag on DGs wheels So some one tell me what I’ve missed?
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@BeddieKU23 no 2nd shots for us
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@Crimsonorblue22 said:
shots
Have to make the wide open ones. Graham and mason responsbile for missing shots they make all year
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@BeddieKU23 that has to change along with our D or this is a loss
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Why would you say that? I’ve seen a whole host of teams that played great defense getting beat. You have to have an offense to win the championship. If the round ball doesn’t go in the hoop. You get no points.
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If Josh could shoot he would be unstoppable.
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We’re not making anything and giving up easy buckets and getting out rebounded - kinda fortunate to only be down 6…
