Consistency: Josh vs Perry
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@drgnslayr All I gotta say is, " Welcome to the Big 12 Josh." We all know youre gonna be a stud but this TCU team is a mid level big 12 team and they had youre number tonight. Learn from this and be stronger, better, faster next game. Youre gonna have to.
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Canāt believe Dana OāNeil can make such a big boo boo:
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@RockChalkinTexas probably didnāt even watch the game. But still not surprising
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Haā¦ so much for Mr. Consistency! Iām a walking, talking jinx!
But seriously, in some ways he still proved my point. Josh showed his frustration during his initiation into Big 12 basketballā¦ especially his first Big 12 road game.
He did come through in the clutch, with just under 5 minutes left when he went down on the hardwoods for a loose ball and created a very needed possession for us.
This is the exact reason why he will earn the title of āMr. Consistency.ā Because he can always hustle and still contribute, even while having a bad game.
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@RockChalkinTexas Probably got snookered by auto-complete on her phoneā¦ Been known to happen to even the best! And I am obviously getting old. Read your post, thought, āSo, what is wrong? Hmmmā¦it LOOKS wrong. What is it? OHHHHH!!!ā
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It was the olā Freudian UNC slip!
She has Justin on her mind, not Joshā¦ probably because she has been glued on UNC and their troubles:
UNC again faces NCAA extra-benefits charge in academic case
BTW: It sounds like AD Bubba is trying to damage Kansas by connecting their illegal activities to the witch hunt the NCAA did on Diallo.
Thanks, Bubbaā¦
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Perhaps I did not read the article as carefully as I should have and I missed the link but I do not see the connection that you mention to KU. The NCAA did not conduct a witch hunt on KU that I know of. The issue was Dialloās transcripts that had nothing to do with KU but with Dialloās lack of planning and preparedness. Had Diallo chosen a different school, the process would have been the sameā¦donāt you think?.
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""You canāt chase things because you have an opinion,āā Cunningham said. āYou have to follow the bylaws. Thatās the standard we are held to and we expect to live by those as well. Weāve seen recently the NCAA has chased after some other schools and went outside their own process and that hasnāt worked out very well.āāā
I could be wrongā¦ but I took this like he was referring to the Diallo case.
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@drgnslayr More likely, Penn State.
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As much as we donāt like it, In the Diallo case the NCAA followed the bylaws to the letter and did what it is supposed to do. Diallo had incomplete transcripts and the NCAA had to wait until all the information was in before ruling on his eligibility. The problem was not with KU, it was with Diallo and KU just happened to be the Innocent bystander.
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@JayHawkFanToo think thereās more to that story. Didnāt KU GO get info the NCAA didnāt even bother trying to get? I canāt remember it all.
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It is not the job of the NCAA to go get information, it is the job of the student athlete to provide all the required information in a timely manner. I know that KU spent a large chunk of money helping Diallo get the information in, but if Diallo would have been a little more diligent beforehand, a lot of the issues could have been avoided.; canāt really blame the NCAA for this.
The NCAA requirement are widely available to schools and student via school counselors and coaches and also directly from the NCAA. I find it hard to believe that student considering playing sport in college, particularly hight profile prospects are not fully aware of the required paperwork. In my opinion, many that submit insufficient paperwork do it because they know their HS work is not good enough to be cleared to play college sports; many of the high profile prospects change schools often or attend unaccredited school knowing the it will cause problems down the road.
For many of these athletes school work is a nuisance that gets in their way to playing sports which they believe is what will get them to the pro leagues, but the truth is that very few get there. This is why I believe that if a players is good enough to go directly to the NBA, he should be allowed to do so, but once they start college, they should stay at least 3 years so they have a decent shot at getting a degree.
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@JayHawkFanToo how about this? Didnāt the NCAA have this info KU obtained, for quite some time, before they acted on it? Didnāt they have a lame ass excuse for not making a timely decision for a kid that clearly was qualified?
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@JayHawkFanToo said:
or many of these athletes school work is a nuisance that gets in their way to playing sports which they believe is what will get them to the pro leagues, but the truth is that very few get there. This is why I believe that if a players is good enough to go directly to the NBA, he should be allowed to do so, but once they start college, they should stay at least 3 years so they have a decent shot at getting a degree.
These words should be sent to the NCAA and NBA.They are sense and spirit that should drive all of this, not the OAD rule.
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Being qualified to attend college and being cleared by the NCAA are two different issues. You can be well qualified to get a home loan but you will not get one until you have submitted all the paperwork and it is not the bank job to go chasing the documentation, it is up to you to submit it.
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@JayHawkFanToo But it is the bankās job to act on the loan application and let you know if something is missing. As I recall, the NCAA went way beyond the usual required info in Dialloās s case. They investigated the adequacy of his African schools back to middle school, and took their time doing it.
It was clearly a case of sanctioning by taking their time, as all that investigation of the coursework ultimately resulted in irrelevant sanctions for receiving improper benefits from the guy who helped him come here.
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Thatās how I saw it as well. When they couldnāt find sufficient evidence to hold back his academics while wasting a lot of time in the process they fell back on his handler.
Self and KU were clearly upset about the wasted time and the lack of communication. I bet if you got Self off the record talking about this situation there would be some things said that the NCAA would not want repeated.
Funny how once Diallo lawyer-ed up the process moved on quicker. There is no telling how many games the kid would have missed otherwise
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āFunny how once Diallo lawyer-ed up the process moved on quicker.ā
I thought the motivation came from Kansas finally speaking out negatively about the NCAA and their lack of speed and communication, emphasizing how Kansas always reacted quickly to their demands by addressing their issues.
It was a horrible PR situation for the NCAA. Remember Luck?
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@drgnslayr itās all coming back!
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Thank you for that additional piece of info. Forgot about that. So consumed in this years squad we tend to forget the details of even last years season.
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Yesā¦ Iām finding it hard to recall details from last year. Am I just getting too old to remember? Or is just too much stuff happening to keep memories straight?
I donāt want this to veer off into politicsā¦ but I think I watched too much politics since last March, too. I could also blame MLB. My Royals didnāt make it, so I was glued on my Cubs.
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If your financial papers come from an African Country, chances are it will take the bank a long time to process them. So, if you know 3 years in advance that you will be applying for a loan, shouldnāt you get all your paper work in order way before that time? I should know, I deal with a lot of overseas paperwork and the time it takes is hard to believe. In the 70ās, a certified letter to South America would take 3-5 days, now it takes well over 30 daysā¦I find it impossible to explain why but true. The NCAA notified him of the incomplete paperwork and it just took a long time to to get the proper paper work in place.
if I want to send a legal document to most any other country in the world, particularly third world countries, I need to have the document certified by a Notary Public, then the document is sent to Topeka so the Secretary of State of The State of Kansas certifies the signature of the Notary public, then it is sent to the Department of State so the US Secretary of State certifies the signature of the Kansas Secretary of State, then It is sent to the Consulate of the Country in question so it can certify the signature of the US Secretary of State; an even longer process is used for legal documents coming from overseas here.
Do you really believe the NCAA selected Diallo and KU specifically and delayer the paper work on purpose? I am as big of a KU homer as any one here and even I donāt believe this is the case.
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@JayHawkFanToo yes
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Why do you think the NCAA would do this? Getting even for Alexander perhaps?
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@JayHawkFanToo we called them out, they really didnāt have any evidence, all bogus
. And then thereās that Luck guy, 
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@JayHawkFanToo I think they suspected financial shenanigans. There could easily be rumors we never heard. Remember, many delays in NCAA investigations are due to waiting for voluntary compliance from 3rd parties. I think we saw other athletes from Africa subjected to lengthy investigations, too, so I donāt think we are singled out. (By referees, either, but I am probably a minority of one there!)
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Kansas athletic director Sheahon Zenger, Bill Self, and Diallo were less than pleased with the NCAAās mishandling of the situation.
On November 10th, Zenger sent a six page letter to Oliver Luck, Executive Vice President of Regulatory Affairs for the NCAA.
This letter, in which Mark Emmert, Gary DeCastro, Todd Leydon, Mike Massa, Bob Bowlsby, Bernadette Gray Little, Sean Lester, David Reed, Bill Self, and Geoff Silver were listed under ācc:ā, detailed the extent of NCAAās ineptitudes.
āI am concerned also because the role NCAA staff has played during this misfit process has been that of investigator, not collaborator,ā Zenger said in the letter.
āThere is still no closure for Cheick Diallo. It is the University of Kansas communicating openly and uncovering facts that we could have discovered together all in the spirit of reaching conclusions and closure for Cheick.ā
Later that month on a Saturday, Self decided to air his grievances as well in a conference call with ESPN and CBS Sports.
āWe still havenāt been told anything definitively in any area,ā Self said.
āWeāve made six visits to Our Savior, and the NCAA has made zero.ā
āOur Savior was placed on review by the NCAA after Cheick arrived. He had no idea when he got there. The policy sucks in that kids arenāt notified.ā
āThis kid left his family in Mali to live out a dream, and he was never made aware of anything. This is a situation where he should be playing immediately.
āWe gave it to the NCAA, and we know itās a weekend. I think the weekend qualifies as a workday in this case.ā
Finally, on November 25th, the NCAA finally made a ruling.
āBased on the amateurism review, the NCAA concluded that Diallo received a limited amount of extra benefits,ā said in a statement by Stacey Osburn, NCAA Director of Public and Media Relations.
āTherefore, Diallo is not eligible to play for five contests, including the four games Kansas has already played.ā
It appeared Zenger was glad the situation reached a conclusion without major penalties.
Zenger said in response to the ruling, āI really want to thank the NCAA staff for guiding this process to a fair conclusion in what was a very complicated situation.ā
Full article http://kckingdom.com/2016/03/30/ku-basketball-blame-ncaa-for-diallo-entering-nba-draft/
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Five games for $200 paid by his legal guardian.
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@dylans and thatās that!
