Carlton Bragg Arrested
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I believe he was arrested at 1:am. He cannot be released until seeing a magistrate who looks over the charge…
Regardless this isn’t a good look for Carlton who from all accounts is a good kid. Until all the facts are released we should wait and see… I hope this is a good learning experience for Carlton and isn’t serious enough where it jeopardizes his position with the team or his good-standing relationship with Bill.
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@wissox “conditioned like Carlton is” what heck is that supposed to mean.
@drgnslayr “what was Carlton doing being out at 6am” He was arrested at that time, doesn’t mean he was out until then.
All of us fans should not speculate so early. I always hate to see people going after people with little information. Damning others before facts can speak volumes about ones character. Don’t be that guy. Just be patient and hope for the best.
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@Crimsonorblue22 didn’t see where it said it happened at a sorority house
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Good point… but I doubt the police came to his dorm and pulled him out of bed. However… could have.
You are right, not to judge yet. The facts aren’t all in.
I don’t see this as an “end of the world” scenario. Quite the opposite. It may end up exposing some issues that were also bleeding onto the court.
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Key words from the available reports:
“suspicion” of domestic battery against a family member.
“HAS NOT” not yet been charged…
So, let’s wait until all the information is in before commenting; we still have that pesky presumption of innocence until proven guilty.
Having said this, I disagree he is still a kid, he is a week away from turning 21; a grown man, in my opinion.
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Like I’ve read on other sites PEOPLE let’s not judge to harsly till we know the situation. A family member doesn’t mean it necessarily mean it was a woman – -could of been a brother, maybe giving him smack about how he has been playing and it just reached a boiling point with Bragg - -we. certainly hope it wasn’t a woman - -no excuse for that I have read comments about people wanting him kicked off the team, get rid of him - -seriously?, that’s a little much IF and again that’s a big IF, then Coach self will get it taken care of, but to kick him off the team - - umm no. They still don’t even know if they going to press charges yet and we got people wanting him kicked off the team holy shit. Let’s see how this comes out before we be the Judge, jury and convictioner.
If it was a woman then he will have to pay for his actions - -the key is, this is just getting out we have got to wait before we judge, I’m not talking about my friends here but just as an over all view. ALWAYS A JAYHAWK
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@JayHawkFanToo yep - can’t really make any excuses at this point
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“Having said this, I disagree he is still a kid, he is a week away from turning 21; a grown man, in my opinion.”
True… but many of these players have had lopsided upbringings. Many of the lessons they should have received often didn’t happen because sports overshadowed many key moments that should have been learning experiences.
It is that way for most young prodigies.
And then there are those cases where players grew up too fast, having to face issues that even few adults ever face.
I think it best to not generalize age and maturity in this case.
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Bragg case is “under review” and there is currently no hearing set up with a judge, a Douglas County District Attorney official says.
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@Crimsonorblue22 I’m not saying I didn’t get in to trouble but you’ve got to be smarter as a big time athlete. Lets just see what we find out.
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There is a rumor on Reddit but its not worth sharing for the sake of waiting for all the facts to come out about this situation. If anyone is interested in the rumor check out reddit and search carlton bragg and there’s a thread about it going on. I really hope the info one person shared is not in fact true
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@RockChalkRedlock He’s a large, physically imposing person. I wouldn’t want to get on the wrong side of him.
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@BeddieKU23 I saw it, can’t believe it still! I’m waiting
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Me too, I will give Carlton the benefit of the doubt until otherwise.
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@wissox he’s not that physical on the court
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@Crimsonorblue22 @RockChalkRedlock He’s what, 6’10"? Strong. That’s physical enough to make him physically imposing to me. On the court he’s going up against similarly built and conditioned people.
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@BeddieKU23 said:
There is a rumor on Reddit but its not worth sharing for the sake of waiting for all the facts to come out about this situation. If anyone is interested in the rumor check out reddit and search carlton bragg and there’s a thread about it going on. I really hope the info one person shared is not in fact true
Well shit I hope so as well.
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From what I have read about Bragg, this seems out of character. I gave the WVU dude the benefit of the doubt on the flagrant foul and I would be dishonest if I don’t do the same with Bragg…at least until all the facts are in.
I am sure Coach Self and staff are on top of the situation and we will have the facts soon enough.
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The charges have been changed to show it is a “misdemeanor battery.”
If this is his first charge, the odds are he won’t see any jail time and will pay a fine anywhere between $500 and $2500 and then be on probation for a period of time.
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He will appear in court today at 3pm . Hopefully its nothing, I had a friend get arrested for assault for pushing someone that was dismissed. We can hope its something along those lines, to me it would be stupid to waste tax dollars and time to arrest someone for pushing to start with but that’s the way it goes.
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@KUSTEVE then don’t! Please
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Like most of you, I don’t want to post things that aren’t accurate, but here’s another Rumer:
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Love it!
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Matt Galloway
Heading into Bragg’s 3 p.m. hearing now, where recording devices are not permitted. Will update after.
Just got the first page of Carlton Bragg’s criminal offense report from the LKPD. Under “type of force/weapon,” “personal weapon” checked.
Following up on this: There was a section for “none” under armed, so I would think this mean weapon involved.
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By the way Matt Galloway is a KU beat writer
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Carlton Bragg, appearing on video, pleads not guilty to charge of misdemeanor battery. Bond set at $500 OR. He will be released.
Bragg will be released after bond at 5 or 6 p.m. His next court date is 1:30 p.m. Dec. 27.
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Galloway also reporting:
The offense report indicates Bragg is suspected of using alcohol and drugs or narcotics. It also lists “personal weapon” as the type of force or weapon used.
Sounding worse by the minute.
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Personal Weapon can mean hand, foot basically Bragg’s body. Otherwise it would have been aggravated battery
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FollowingJoe Davis @ByJoeDavis Via the @KCStar, Bragg “struck his girlfriend and pushed her down stairs during an argument.”
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First reaction to that news is unless he’s cleared he’s played his last minutes in a KU uni
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@BeddieKU23 I was more referring to the narcotics reference in terms of getting worse. But pushing your lady down the stairs, if true, at six in the a of the m is not a good scene.
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@BeddieKU23 The whole story isn’t out yet. He clearly deserves a major suspension regardless. Just really sad because everything I had heard about him was that he was just the nicest guy. A bunch of my sorority friends used to hang out with him routinely and they all said that.
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@Fightsongwriter Happened at 1 a.m. but he was arrested at 6 a.m.
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Smiled in his Mug Shot as well… Bad bad press
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@BeddieKU23 link?
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@BeddieKU23 Interesting that he was supposedly high or drunk. He is smiling ear to ear in his mug shot. He will be out on bond shortly, but the question is does Self allow him to stay with the team til the next court date of December 27 or does he kick him off now.
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I’m sure he will be suspended until his court date or when he is/isn’t charged… No other choice for Self at this point. The details of the story make this a serious issue and that will not be tolerated
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https://twitter.com/ByJoeDavis/status/807338006034206725
http://www.kansascity.com/sports/college/big-12/university-of-kansas/article119896743.html
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@Kcmatt7 Uh, correct, and totally irrelevant to my point.
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@BeddieKU23 Yes I would say at this point unless his GF drops the charges he is done at Kansas.
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I will not assume what Self will do but the situation at hand would think regardless of outcome his role on the team will be hard to keep
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@BeddieKU23 agreed all we can do is shake our head. I personally think he was our best big and will hurt us very badly down the road but I will stand with what Self decides.
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I don’t think it changes much for the team as he was struggling anyway to find a role. I’m stunned because I thought he was a person who would not get himself into this type of situation. We will see more of Lightfoot and situations where 2 bigs without the ability to stretch the floor on the court.
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@BeddieKU23 Ya hope LL can find his groove or things could get interesting.
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we got 5 of the best guards in the country! JJ can play the 4 most of the time too
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@BeddieKU23 We will need solid post play at some point buddy. This team may take the look of a Roy team and have to outscore rather than play good defense.
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@Fightsongwriter well, to me at least, it is more defensable at 1 am. If you will hear out my reasoning.
At 6 am it would have seemed to be a select few people still awake and this would have seemed much more intentional, at least in they way I see it. Like pretty much only one way it could have gone down.
At 1 am, who knows what all could have happened. There are a lot more scenarios where Bragg doesn’t look like he was being a terrible person.
That is all I guess I was trying to say.
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Interesting that Joe Davis is saying he doesn’t deserve to be Jayhawk. I agree if proven guilty but kinda jumping the gun IMO.
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Any evidence? Witnesses? Pictures? We all assuming he is guilty?
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@kjayhawks said:
agreed all we can do is shake our head. I personally think he was our best big and will hurt us very badly down the road but I will stand with what Self decides.
He was and it’s not close. He was the only post player that could stretch the floor. With our current 4 bigs it’s a huge liability offensively to have two of them on the floor at once.
@BeddieKU23 said:
I don’t think it changes much for the team as he was struggling anyway to find a role. I’m stunned because I thought he was a person who would not get himself into this type of situation. We will see more of Lightfoot and situations where 2 bigs without the ability to stretch the floor on the court.
I don’t think we see two bigs out there at once that often at all now. I’ll be interested to see the post minute distribution tomorrow.
@Crimsonorblue22 said:
Any evidence? Witnesses? Pictures? We all assuming he is guilty?
Doesn’t look good at all. At the very least I doubt he plays again until January.
