Let’s talk Illinois
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Very poor coaching tonight all around by LL and Grimes. The new stadium is going to be great 1/4 full with a 3 win team smh. UNLV spanks us next week too book it
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We get it back with 1 minute, likely down 6. Would still not throw it
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Run 7 times and score
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I’d bet a hefty amount JD throw another pick to end the game. Is that turkey or what lol
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Can’t believe numbnutz is still in the game
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Throw it away wasted 15 seconds
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Game ends with a JD turnover 5 turnovers in 6 quarters smh please bench him
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Maybe this will humble them.
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That was worst coaching performance in CFB history, Beaty would’ve got us the W. What a bunch idiots, actually that’s an insult to idiots.
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Will always be a Jayhawk, but this was last time I will watch a KU FB game
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@webjay hard to watch, easily the worst feeling I’ve had as a KU since South Dakota State beat us to open the Beaty era. Maybe we will end up wish LL left to Wisconsin
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If I’m Travis Golf, I’m meeting with coaches tomorrow and firing Jeff Grimes.
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@kjayhawks Probably related to Frank Grimes from the Simpsons
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Or Grimey, as his friends called him
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@patoh3 play ballard
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We should’ve played a decent team to start, starters only played half.
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Daniels has never had the arm strength to throw all the deep passes Grimes wants to throw. How many of those deep throws to Skinner did he badly underthrow tonight? Our passing game needs to focus much more on the short and intermediate routes with only 2 or 3 deep shots total per game. Grimm and Arnold are good enough at those short and intermediate routes to cause secondaries lots of issues.
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@webjay said in Let’s talk Illinois:
WTF? Run for 7, then throw it away twice?
From the bleachers, this felt like the series that lost it for us. Sure the pick 6 of course didn’t help at all, but we’d established the run, and we have 2nd and 3 and just, why?
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Well as pumped as I was for this one, it sure fizzled. Actually we controlled it for the most part for 3 quarters. The pick 6 was the only thing that kept Illinois in it. The defense finally wore out when they learned they’d be going back out on the field in a couple of minutes. Two long scoring drives in the 4th by Ill was all she wrote.
I too walked away miffed with Grimes. Our seat angle was such that it was kind of hard to see the plays, but you’d look up on the running plays and see on the scoreboard 5-6 yards a pop, and it just seems kind of logical that running is going to be your bread and butter. And yet we seemed to get away from it.
Leipold is not a dumbass as someone mentioned.
It was a fun game to be at. Illinois fans aren’t obnoxious although after the game as idiot students ran past us down to the field we heard one irate Illinois fan mad about Bill Self leaving. Couldn’t quite tell what he was mad about, but like dude, your team just won the game.
If our DBs turn and look for the ball, maybe we stop some of their longer plays.
This is a game we should have won. Clearly.
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I completely agree with that last sentence. Illinois is not good. This game was easily there to win for KU.
This is as bad as I’ve ever seen JD6 look.
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Feel like everything went against us. Garbage qb play, somehow not recovering the fumbled snap or the muffed punt
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I thought our play calling was below par, Grimes play calling was vanilla. I miss Andy K’s playbook.
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@AsadZ Vanilla would’ve been fine if they ran the ball. Absolutely inexplicable
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@BShark said in Let’s talk Illinois:
I completely agree with that last sentence. Illinois is not good. This game was easily there to win for KU.
This is as bad as I’ve ever seen JD6 look.
And Jeff Grimes play calling was ridiculous. 3rd and 2 and KU has great running backs: Grimes calls a 20 yd pass that falls short.
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@stoptheflop said in Let’s talk Illinois:
play calling was ridiculous. 3rd and 2
Ah, reminds me of the mid-70s Chiefs’ games. “Podolak into the line twice for 8 yards, pass incomplete, punt.”
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This is why I don’t get worked up over KU football. Over a hundred years worth of history tells us they will revert to the norm - which for KU is bad.
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I’M. SO. PISSED.
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@nuleafjhawk At yourself for having expectations or KU football for doing KU football stuff?
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Most of us do have expectations!
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After last night I’m just hoping we can go .500 and make a bowl game. Thats a loss that can completely destroy a locker room. Will have every offensive player questioning not only the coaching staff’s decisions but if our QB is capable of playing at this level anymore. Pretty much every media is laughing their tails off at Grimes play calls and how ridiculous we looked last night.
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@dylans Yes. And yes.
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I hope Grimes can take a few plays from Andy Ks playbook, use more RPO and design creative running plays.
I would also like to see a few plays with our backup QB.
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@AsadZ We all were worried about JDs health coming in and still don’t wish that upon anyone but the question looms. Were we a better football team with Jason Bean? JD looked unbelievable at times but has the limited practice time and injuries made the game get away from him? He looks worse than he did as a 17 year old true freshman. We just have to hope this is a transitional period of him finding his groove. On the side of the coin, we can’t wait a half of a season for him to figure it out. I’d say Illinois is probably the 3rd or 4th easiest game on our schedule which is pretty weak. If I’m coaching this week, Ballard is getting first team reps.
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Just so I have this right:
- fire everyone
- Jalon can’t play and is soft
- Lance can’t coach
- the stadium is never getting done
- the sky hasn’t just fallen, we also got hit by a meteor and a hurricane
- the season is over
- shut down the program
- go to the big east
Lots of drama queens here lmao. Take a Xanax.
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The Day After…I guess our title hopes are dashed? Ha. I’m still happy with a bowl game. Always my goal until proven otherwise.
I will say many of us KU fans hoped the program had turned some kind of corner. Maybe we’re stuck in the traffic circle still.
Illinois seems like a team that kept things close in most games last year. Maybe not as bad a loss as we think, but that sure seemed like a game we could have and should have won. In fact i wasn’t even worried after a few bad plays and turnovers. I thought we’d come back and dominate easily. Then stupidity kinda set in. Why can’t the adults on the sideline see what the rest of us were seeing? Make the right play calls! Put people in position to succeed! Seems pretty simple viewing from the couch. I don’t really know the coaches, so i cant say if Grimes or his understudy are capable. Something went drastically wrong. I hope they can fix whatever “it” is.
Like others, i think i saw a grimace on JD’s face early on. Maybe he was hurt? I know i’m just waiting for it to happen. Not wishing for it of course, but always a worry when the back is involved.
On to next week.
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But seriously, is qb going to be a position battle?
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Forgot to set the DVR so I can’t go back and watch. Had a penalty negate a TD to Grimm early in the 2nd quarter. Game play by play calls it offensive pass interference. From the stands Lance looked like he was arguing with refs, but never saw replay. Was it a legit gripe? Anyone remember?
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One more gripe for the upcoming week. We have DirecTV and they are currently arguing with the ABC/ESPN nation and as a result I won’t be able to watch Friday when they play UNLV. grrrr. first world problem I know, but grrrrr…!
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@FarmerJayhawk you got it 98% right. Add tornado to number 5 and you just made the KUBuckets Hall of Fame
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@rockchalkjayhawk Grimes has been ran out of town every he has been for pretty much the same thing we saw last night. Lack of common knowledge of the game.
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@kjayhawks and by everywhere you mean one time
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@wissox said in Let’s talk Illinois:
One more gripe for the upcoming week. We have DirecTV and they are currently arguing with the ABC/ESPN nation and as a result I won’t be able to watch Friday when they play UNLV. grrrr. first world problem I know, but grrrrr…!
me neither buddy , unless a Miracle - -just pathetic
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Just saw this from an Illini fan: “Great win! Thanks KU coaches for not feeding Neal more.”
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The one main concern I had late in the game was play calling. Hanni and Lawerence mentioned it, saying well – -you know what we are going to see a lot of on this series- -this came on our next possession right after Daniels 2nd pick of the game.
They said we are going to see a lot of Devin and Daniel on this series. So what we do , we go out and first play ball goes to Devin for Seven yards , right about mid field Then what do we do? - - - - - we chuck the ball deep for the next two plays which obviously didn’t work-- -hadn’t worked sll night, could not get separation BUT hey let’s chuck it up anyways.
The BIG question on this is WHY ? Why in the hell throw deep twice in a row late in the game when it hasn’t work all night , WHY do we go away from the run game ? - I would say here we come , you haven’t showed me squat stopping ou run ALL NIGHT LONG w averaged close to Eight yards per, fort the game -they didn’t stop us in the run ALL FRICKEN NIGHT, and what do w do ?—w throw the fricking ball not only throw but deep twice. Again I’d be sayin I’m RUNNIN now stop me , until you prove you can shut our running game down - - -I’m still bringing it.
Having sid that for people who is saying fire Grimes - - -run him out – - - You don’t fire an OC TWO GAMES into the Season.-- lot’s of work to do, that was just ugly
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@wissox I won’t be able to watch either.
I’ll be watching Remember The Titans.
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@FarmerJayhawk The genuine concerns at this point are Grimes play calling and Daniels decision making. The play calling was atrocious and didn’t play to Daniels or the rest of the offenses strengths at all. There was no reason last night for the run pass balance to be 50/50. It really should’ve been much closer to 60/40 in favor of running the ball. Also, the situational play calling was not good either. Grimes has one of the top backs in the country and threw on a third and short on both their second and third to last possessions. KU still had the lead on that third to last possession when Grimes threw on both 2nd and 3rd and 3 with Daniels hovering around 50% completion. There was still 13 minutes left so I get passing in 2nd and 3 and taking a shot, but passing on 3rd and 3 when you have Neal and Hishaw in the backfield is incredibly dumb play calling. Who cares if Illinois knows that ball should go to Neal or Hishaw in that situation, KU’s line and Neal and Hishaw are good enough to get 3 yards. Devin Neal only touching the ball twice the entire 4th quarter is inexcusable.
Grimes also didn’t call plays to Daniels strengths as a passer. Daniels has never had the biggest arm so why is Grimes calling so many deep passes? How many of those deep passes were incomplete because of being badly underthrown including Daniels third INT of the game?
The first two of Daniels INT’s were really bad because of Daniels decison making. The first pick was Daniels trying to make a Mahomes style play/throw and he doesn’t have the arm strength. The pick six should’ve been tucked and run because of that screen was a busted play from the start, but Daniels didn’t recognize it.
There’s genuine reason for concern at this point going forward because of Grimes play calling and Daniels decison making.
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@Texas-Hawk-10 I know zip about Grimes, but at what point does Lance step in and say “I’ll call the plays”
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@FarmerJayhawk either way you want to slice it, last night was one of the worst play calling performances in the history of the game of football. Baylor fans went nuts with joy when he left. It’s looking like the worst coordinator hire in CFB thus far.
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@kjayhawks yeah, the way I want to slice it is not make up that he’s been fired from everywhere.
