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@Texas-Hawk-10 said in Other bball games:
Duke and Wake Forest are playing a great game in Winston Salem right now with about 5 minutes left. Wake is currently up 1 amd this name has never been more than a two possession game either way.
Great game until really dumb decision by Wake to throw the lob. Up 5 and should have been going to the FT line the double bonus, but now a 2 pt game…
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@Texas-Hawk-10 Is that what I read? That’s pretty shocking. So do we trade our resume for theirs? 2 championships in that time, but with some down years or our year after year mainly in the top ten receiving top seeds the majority of the time? I know we’ve discussed this before. Of course they could win again and I wouldn’t be surprised. 6 championships in 2 1/2 decades is pretty amazing stuff.
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Filipowski got run into by fan and is limping assisted down the tunnel. Of course it will take a Duke guy getting hurt to get them to do something about it.
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This is going be a very ugly situation for Wake now. Looks like Filipowski got hurt by Wake fans during the court storming. As much as we all hate Duke here, that’s not something that should happen.
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@wissox said in Other bball games:
Filipowski got run into by fan and is limping assisted down the tunnel. Of course it will take a Duke guy getting hurt to get them to do something about it.
It won’t change anything. If Caitlin Clark almost getting KO’d earlier this year didn’t force changes, Filipowski won’t either.
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“The Day Kyle Almost Got Killed”. 5 Part Series on PBS Frontline coming soon. Oh and by the way you can get a box set of the series on DVD for only 300 dollars if you donate to your local PBS station.
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@Texas-Hawk-10 I haven’t seen it yet but Clark’s was a total flop by her but if this truly happened and hurt him, that will spell trouble. Never know, Traylor got bumper for us at KSUCK and an ISU broke a leg one year to no changes.
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@kjayhawks said in Other bball games:
@Texas-Hawk-10 I haven’t seen it yet but Clark’s was a total flop by her but if this truly happened and hurt him, that will spell trouble. Never know, Traylor got bumper for us at KSUCK and an ISU broke a leg one year to no changes.
So Clark knocked the wind out of herself? I’m sorry, but GTFO with that take. You don’t knock the wind out of yourself flopping.
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At this point, the only way to way to stop court/field stormings is for the home team to forfeit the game and give the win to the other team. That will stop court/field stormings almost immediately.
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OU beats OSU with a buzzer beating 3. Wow.
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@Texas-Hawk-10 I’ve seen people get shot have less of a reaction than Clark. I agree that there zero reason to touch the players, I just think she sold it all hard but who knows.
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I thought she flopped too.
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@Crimsonorblue22 so did 99% of social media
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@kjayhawks said in Other bball games:
@Crimsonorblue22 so did 99% of social media
99% of social media shits on women’s sports too. Clark was looking in another direction when she was ran into and knocked off balance along with the wind knocked out of her.
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@kjayhawks Bull crap. Clark got ran into and we’re all fortunate she didn’t get hurt.
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Same morons are saying Filipowski was tripping kids, shoving kids, etc. I just can’t believe the irrational people who can’t see what is so plain to see.
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@Texas-Hawk-10 said in Other bball games:
@kjayhawks said in Other bball games:
@Texas-Hawk-10 I haven’t seen it yet but Clark’s was a total flop by her but if this truly happened and hurt him, that will spell trouble. Never know, Traylor got bumper for us at KSUCK and an ISU broke a leg one year to no changes.
So Clark knocked the wind out of herself? I’m sorry, but GTFO with that take. You don’t knock the wind out of yourself flopping.
Not saying Clark flopped, but Bryce Thompson tore his labrum flopping. You can absolutely hurt yourself flopping.
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@wissox I’m in a agreement that court storming needs to stop and it wasn’t Flipers fault nor was it Clark’s but their definitely was some acting going on in the later.
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@wissox said in Other bball games:
Same morons are saying Filipowski was tripping kids, shoving kids, etc. I just can’t believe the irrational people who can’t see what is so plain to see.
he for sure was not tripping kids, he was trying to get off the court- -it was insane - -court storming has got to be stopped. Gotten totally out of hand-- now he is hurt- not good.
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Alot of these fricken tweets of twitter and such are the perfect chance for people who do not like Filpowski . - --People who don’t like him have found their opportunity to take pot shots at him or about him with the court storming , hell I don’t like him either really, but not because of him personally, don’t know the kid, but just because it’s Duke.
Having said that I’m sure the hell not going to run to twitter and blame him saying it was his fault and other things , the guy was trying to get off the court .I could see where he actually looked scared for his safety, just trying to get off. On the other hand you have these idiots storming the court mass chaos just so they can group up with a bunch of other idiots so they could hop up and done act like fools.
Hell half of them probably didn’t even know why they themselves why they were storming the court- - -only that a bunch of other kids were doing it so it must be fun, to hell if someone got hurt. - -Got to be stopped
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@dylans said in Other bball games:
@Texas-Hawk-10 said in Other bball games:
@kjayhawks said in Other bball games:
@Texas-Hawk-10 I haven’t seen it yet but Clark’s was a total flop by her but if this truly happened and hurt him, that will spell trouble. Never know, Traylor got bumper for us at KSUCK and an ISU broke a leg one year to no changes.
So Clark knocked the wind out of herself? I’m sorry, but GTFO with that take. You don’t knock the wind out of yourself flopping.
Not saying Clark flopped, but Bryce Thompson tore his labrum flopping. You can absolutely hurt yourself flopping.
And at what point did Clark go to the ground after she got hit? It wasn’t immediately or even after the spin. That means she got hit hard enough on the contact with that fan that it knocked the wind out of her at that point. If Clark had been hit in a different spot that hard, rib injuries then become a possibility as well.
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Filipowski was oblivious and clotheslined a kid who then hit his knee. Have some awareness. I dont think we need our athletes retracted further into their bubble of exceptionalism, Duke being the poster boys for exceptionalism, and I dont have a problem with court stormings.
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@dylans I’m gonna flop the next time my wife bumps into me. I’ll report back to you about it!
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Why don’t they just make it mandatory for the players to leave the court first- opponent then let fans and home team enjoy. There is no need for players to get hurt that’s for sure over this, even if it is Duke
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@BeddieKU23 I honestly don’t think he made an effort to get off the court but he shouldn’t have too at the same time.
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If this were Spain, we would call him an idiot.
https://www.sbnation.com/2012/7/7/3143532/running-of-the-bulls-2012-spain-video
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Sore point in these parts I’m sure, but anyone remember this ‘court storming’. My how times have changed!
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@kjayhawks said in Other bball games:
@BeddieKU23 I honestly don’t think he made an effort to get off the court but he shouldn’t have too at the same time.
When did Filipowski even have a chance to leave the court? Those Wake fans were on the court as soon as that clock hit zero and there was no security to protect anyone or even hold fans back for a bit.
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@Texas-Hawk-10 they were on the court w/time still on the clock.
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What a seemingly unlikeable weenus
https://youtube.com/shorts/DUtbBC2jGmU?si=7HfjO_W1wVNfSSic
Suck it up dude! Jesus.
Wheres the injury report? Out for the season? Get a grip.
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This is a situation where you say “its unfortunate that players can get injured by passionate fans “ not “those fans tried to hurt me, poor me”, but this is what you get when your coach is also a pampered child.
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Would we feel the same way if it was Hunter straining his ankle from something that can be avoided?
It’s Duke so I don’t have sympathy but do feel these court stormings are not that safe in situations
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@BeddieKU23 life is 10% what happens and 90% what you make of it. Kyle came to the absolute wrong conclusion that the world is out to get him. If Hunter aimlessly wandered in front of a court storming and then said the fan that he forearm blasted who was running past him was trying to hurt his ankle, I would scoff at that too.
your idea about getting players off and then letting them rush the court wont happen because universities dont want to condone the behavior at all, even though its organic and healthy imo.
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@approxinfinity said in Other bball games:
What a seemingly unlikeable weenus
https://youtube.com/shorts/DUtbBC2jGmU?si=7HfjO_W1wVNfSSic
Suck it up dude! Jesus.
Wheres the injury report? Out for the season? Get a grip.
Why does it matter the severity of the injury and why does it matter if it’s a Duke player or not?
This is why court/field storming is absolutely unnecessary. He’s a 20 year old kid whose team just lost an emotionally charged game that was never more than a 2 possession game. Emotionally charged 20 year olds don’t make the smartest decisions so why was he forced to be in that position in the first place surrounded by opposing fans the same general age that also don’t make the smartest decisions in emotionally charged situations like court/field stormings?
Ban the practice, and tell schools/fans they will forfeit the game and the other team will declared the winner if any fan enters the field/court of play. Anyone that does storm the court/field after a game also faces criminal charges.
I guarantee there’s been plenty fans injured due to getting trampled in court/field stormings that don’t get reported on because they’re some random kid and not an athlete.
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@Texas-Hawk-10 why does an undesirable outcome warrant criminalization? I would feel better about pressing charges against the kid who injured Filipowski, even though it appeared to be an accident, than pressing charges against all court stormers. I believe court storming is a connection between fans and the sport.
But my point in that post is that Kyle came to the wrong conclusion. He wasnt injured intentionally.
As for the severity of the injury, I think Duke is hyping it up to garner sympathy.
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@approxinfinity said in Other bball games:
@Texas-Hawk-10 why does an undesirable outcome warrant criminalization? I would feel better about pressing charges against the kid who injured Filipowski, even though it appeared to be an accident, than pressing charges against all court stormers. I believe court storming is a connection between fans and the sport.
But my point in that post is that Kyle came to the wrong conclusion. He wasnt injured intentionally.
As for the severity of the injury, I think Duke is hyping it up to garner sympathy.
That’s a terrible fucking take on this. And yes, I’m worked up about because it’s not something that needs to exist. Why is thus something to be reactive instead of proactive about? What’s the narrative going to be when a player eventually gets injured to the point that they do miss the rest of the season? Or worst case for a school, a fan gets paralyzed or killed in a situation like this either getting trampled or falling running down the seats?
I don’t care if it’s a way for players and fans to connect, it’s a dangerous fucking environment and a matter of time before something truly tragic happens.
Don’t forget the collective reaction 10 years ago in Manhattan with Jamari Traylor and a KSU fan.
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@Texas-Hawk-10 why play basketball at all? Reduce the risk of injury and dont play any sports.
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@approxinfinity said in Other bball games:
@Texas-Hawk-10 why play basketball at all? Reduce the risk of injury and dont play any sports.
Why do fans need to be on the court at any point before, during, or after a game? What purpose does that serve other than creating a dangerous environment for all involved?
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@Texas-Hawk-10 you or i may not want to be on the court as a fan, but that doesnt mean the students dont gain some benefit from it. The beauty of college sports is the feeling of connection between players and the student body. Ive mentioned before that this basic premise of college athletics is being strained by NIL, that players and students live in exceedingly different worlds. I think taking court storming away is another step down this road.
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@approxinfinity https://www.nytimes.com/2016/03/05/sports/ncaabasketball/storming-the-court-a-cherished-rite-can-be-a-danger.html
This is why court storming needs to banned. People do get hurt in these things. A reporter on press row shouldn’t have to worry about having his leg/ankle broken just because someone wins a game. And this was at Hilton where KU has absolutely had some near misses with court storming incidents turning into something bigger.
Allen Fieldhouse is always considered one of the best atmospheres in all of sports. Court storming is not part of the culture of Kansas basketball so it is absolutely possible to have that connection and excitement without having to rush onto a playing surface putting others safety in jeopardy after a win.
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@Texas-Hawk-10 ok, a couple people get hurt. We didnt ban basketball when Paul George shattered his leg on a stancheon. Again, just because court storming isnt your cup of tea doesnt mean it isnt someone elses.
Im sure it will get banned, because plenty of people think like you do. That we can make everything dangerous illegal.
I just ask that we stop and smell the roses, and take stock of the side effects of decisions like this.
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@approxinfinity said in Other bball games:
This is a situation where you say “its unfortunate that players can get injured by passionate fans “ not “those fans tried to hurt me, poor me”, but this is what you get when your coach is also a pampered child.
I think your dead wrong saying Flip is over reacting, the kid was trying to gt off the court, and hell ya If I were him and all these idiots racing on the court I’d be throwing a fore arm to. I’d be doing whatever I needed to do to protect myself against that mob. - -Act like you belong, you detract from what your team just did by beating this team.
Have you eve seen Ku storm the court when they have beaten higher ranked teams ? - I’ll never that - -NO you haven’t. -What’s it gonna take someone getting hurt really bad before they decide to take action on this ?- -Your messing with a kids future with your Court storming. Someone could end up getting hurt really bad-- Then what ?
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@approxinfinity said in Other bball games:
@Texas-Hawk-10 ok, a couple people get hurt. We didnt ban basketball when Paul George shattered his leg on a stancheon. Again, just because court storming isnt your cup of tea doesnt mean it isnt someone elses.
Im sure it will get banned, because plenty of people think like you do. That we can make everything dangerous illegal.
I just ask that we stop and smell the roses, and take stock of the side effects of decisions like this.
What the hell does Paul George’s broken leg have to do with court storming? That was an injury that occurred during normal basketball activities. Players get hurt during games and practices doing basketball activities, it sucks, but that is part of the sport and not 100% preventable. Injuries caused by court stormings are 100% preventable.
A college player, fans, and reporters shouldn’t have to worry about making it off the court safely if the home team wins a fucking game.
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@Texas-Hawk-10 sure Paul George’s injury is preventable: ban basketball.
Thats my point.
Dropping f bombs doesnt validate yours.
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I always appreciated a good mosh pit as a kid. I didnt usually go in it. But i appreciated it.
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@approxinfinity said in Other bball games:
@Texas-Hawk-10 sure Paul George’s injury is preventable: ban basketball.
Thats my point.
Dropping f bombs doesnt validate yours.
I don’t give a shit right now. You dismissing someone getting hurt in a 100% preventable situation and then trying to compare it to a player breaking his leg during a practice in a normal basketball situation is a bullshit argument and you know it because you don’t have a valid comeback to court storming being an outdated practice.
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@Texas-Hawk-10 my argument is valid. You are choosing not to see it.
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Banning is rarely the answer. People get hurt all the time in life and they can all be labeled as ‘preventable’ if you ban whatever caused the injury. Its a lame and brainless approach to solving what is usually a non-problem. Nobody can prevent all injuries. I do think it is reasonable to expect the colleges to implement a better system for escorting players off of the court before allowing fans on the court.
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I don’t think it was “intentional” as Filipowski has put it. That’s changed the conversation or narrative. I have thought ever since KU had brush ups in Manhattan and Hilton years ago and other examples across the country that there should be something in place to get the opposing team off the floor before the storming. It’s not like they are about to enjoy what happens.
I agree that it’s part of the unique bond of the game so a ban isn’t the solution either.
