Early Hearings TM
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@BShark Shhhhh! Let us dream.
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Talk of Tiller joining the team at semester which is odd because I believe we are full on scholarships.
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Yeah that’s not possible unless someone leaves. And before anyone asks, he can’t walk on for a semester. There are a lot of restrictions on how walk ons get recruited (or not).
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inteeresting
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Rylan likely out tonight with the flu
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Have heard their Big Man Kylrbrenner-- -ya spelt wrong but heard he had injury and was out last game and not sure about tonight
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Kalkbrenner will play, I have zero doubt.
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@BShark said in Early Hearings TM:
Rylan likely out tonight with the flu
Means 30 minutes for Storr and maybe a few for Passmore?
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@BShark Hit our fam hard two weeks ago - worst bout I’ve had with it……tmi but it was both ends!!!
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@kuballin10 said in Early Hearings TM:
@BShark Hit our fam hard two weeks ago - worst bout I’ve had with it……tmi but it was both ends!!!
I had something last week but not too bad. Tis the season.
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Couple roster changes at semester I believe. One out one in.
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@BShark that seems….odd
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@benshawks08 said in Early Hearings TM:
@BShark that seems….odd
With Moore’s return date up in the air, Self was asked if the guard would ever take a medical redshirt.
“I don’t think so,” Self said. “I can’t say positively, because I don’t know how he’s going to respond a month from now. But we didn’t recruit him here to play next year. We recruited him to play this year.”
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@BShark said in Early Hearings TM:
Couple roster changes at semester I believe. One out one in.
Darryn Peterson In da house as hinted at previously?
I dunno who the “out” would be.
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@rockchalkjayhawk said in Early Hearings TM:
@BShark said in Early Hearings TM:
Couple roster changes at semester I believe. One out one in.
Darryn Peterson In da house as hinted at previously?
I dunno who the “out” would be.
Peterson will stay in HS and collect his accolades. It would be Bryson Tiller in.
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@BShark said in Early Hearings TM:
@rockchalkjayhawk said in Early Hearings TM:
@BShark said in Early Hearings TM:
Couple roster changes at semester I believe. One out one in.
Darryn Peterson In da house as hinted at previously?
I dunno who the “out” would be.
Peterson will stay in HS and collect his accolades. It would be Bryson Tiller in.
Interesting. May as well get him in early to build up strength and conditioning for next year. Learn the system, too.
The out will be interesting, too. a few options.
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@BShark said in Early Hearings TM:
@benshawks08 said in Early Hearings TM:
@BShark that seems….odd
With Moore’s return date up in the air, Self was asked if the guard would ever take a medical redshirt.
“I don’t think so,” Self said. “I can’t say positively, because I don’t know how he’s going to respond a month from now. But we didn’t recruit him here to play next year. We recruited him to play this year.”
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@BShark said in Early Hearings TM:
@BShark said in Early Hearings TM:
@benshawks08 said in Early Hearings TM:
@BShark that seems….odd
With Moore’s return date up in the air, Self was asked if the guard would ever take a medical redshirt.
“I don’t think so,” Self said. “I can’t say positively, because I don’t know how he’s going to respond a month from now. But we didn’t recruit him here to play next year. We recruited him to play this year.”
That’s a huge bummer. Would have been a great rotation player. We’re digging Diggy now!
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A thought not based on any information just a gut feeling: I could see Bill retiring after next year. It’s either that or he has to change his approach because you can’t count on having a main core of guys for 3-4 years anymore.
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@BShark said in Early Hearings TM:
A thought not based on any information just a gut feeling: I could see Bill retiring after next year. It’s either that or he has to change his approach because you can’t count on having a main core of guys for 3-4 years anymore.
Agreed. Or sooner. And this is the first time ever that I’m seriously questioning Self and his game plan or ability.
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@rockchalkjayhawk A lot of it this year is he has lost a good chunk of the locker room. He needs to fix that but I’m not sure if it’s possible.
This team would be better if AJ Storr simply was not on the roster probably.
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It genuinely seems like Coach has lost this locker room already. Bringing in all these guys was to lessen the load on the core 3 instead we’re getting more of a mediocre core than ever.
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@TYOHawk said in Early Hearings TM:
It genuinely seems like Coach has lost this locker room already.
Yeah he has, I have intel on this. Massive couple weeks ahead to try and right the ship.
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@BShark said in Early Hearings TM:
@TYOHawk said in Early Hearings TM:
It genuinely seems like Coach has lost this locker room already.
Yeah he has, I have intel on this. Massive couple weeks ahead to try and right the ship.
I’m not even trying to point fingers. But from the outside looking in Self has made some mistakes and I’m not putting it all on the transfers as I’m sure they weren’t told during the recruiting process they’ll get a front row seat to the Dajuan/KJ/Hunter show.
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@BShark said in Early Hearings TM:
@rockchalkjayhawk A lot of it this year is he has lost a good chunk of the locker room. He needs to fix that but I’m not sure if it’s possible.
This team would be better if AJ Storr simply was not on the roster probably.
Man, that absolutely sucks if true. You had to wonder WTF was up when Diggy was starting today. I suppose it could have been strategic – play small to combat there size. But sure seems like he’s messing with guys.
But what other chunks other than Storr could he lose? Hunter, Passmore, Griffen?
Insane if this is true. I guess that backs up the argument that Self is maybe not fitting in to the free agency era. grrr.
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@rockchalkjayhawk It’s a big 3 weeks here for Self to figure things out
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@BShark players meeting? Are they playing half-ass on purpose? Don’t care?
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@BShark It is easy to see with how he can’t be semi flexible in how he coaches along with the portal
Dude claimed taking us to new heights and that new height is no big 12 and second round l’s
This has been easy to see from a mile away
He’s gonna bring DP in here and have him feeding a back to the basket post up to start the game
@FarmerJayhawk - I stand corrected - game has passed him by and yeah he’s retiring just like I said
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@BShark Nah it ain’t Storr it’s on Self - he brought him here
He’s butchered every transfer……
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@Crimsonorblue22 New guys with solid resumes like Rylen and Storr are tired of one “shot” bill didn’t like or one mistake and they are yanked
I mean geez an idiot like me can see it
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U r right about one thing
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@Crimsonorblue22 knew you’d like that one
Bill’s lost the locker room with recruits he’s brought in
Rylan a starter on a final 4 team and comes here and can’t get minutes
Storr needed to be encouraged to go be himself but learn to play harder on D
Instead Self acts like he’s gonna tear down and rebuild him completely and neuters him just like he has every transfer since the portal
He cherishes back to the basket big men and running the offense through them
He’s not built for 2024
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@kuballin10 tired of hearing you! Bla bla!
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Ahh look the Trojan horse. Hiding behind false pleasantries waiting on the team to lose to pounce. 🥱 boring
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@NotHim Don’t have to wait often…I was positive after Duke and now we’ve been exposed yet again
This is same crap as last year
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@kuballin10 not built for 2024 just 2022.
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@approxinfinity I mean that argument required Och, Braun here for what 3/4 years? Senior Big Dave plus jr Wilson and then you had the stud transfer Remy who saved us all from another second or heck sweet 16 bounce to Providence
We won but that doesn’t ignore the fact the system sucks.
The issues with it: You need 3 years in it to grasp it AND have Bill’s trust for a longer leash
It’s built on timing which takes a ton of time to work on
Transfers can’t transfer in and grasp it nor are they given a leash too
It’s outdated in that it starts inside out with poor ball movement as the ball sticks in the post
2 bigs = more turnovers compared to 4 guards
We play down to the competition with this style which is what bad teams want. Score less and give them a chance
You want proof? See that 2022 team
Got down to Miami and we got out in transition upped the possessions and dominated
Unc same thing after halftime
Self’s system gets us in holes early and more often than against good teams or on the road
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@NotHim not sure if your new to the board or not but guess you haven’t realized how our lil buddy works lol. See when KU wins even during game chat don’t you see him- or - hear a peep out of him he is a ghost-- NOTHING, BUT when things don’t go well- - it’s Katie bar the door, he is on it like White on Rice , he becomes THE jimmy in the Dean he thrives on it and has a huge thing for Juan sit back and watch buddy lmao
If you new awesome welcome aboard, if your not – still cool always glad to see others on here – Rock Chalk
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@kuballin10 You thinking about putting some money on KU not making the tournament this year?
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LoL That was funny
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@kuballin10 if you eliminate the exageration ie “Bills system sucks” you have some valid points. His system doesnt suck. Nobody threw a dart that landed on Kansas in 2022. We won because his system succeeded.
Maybe we should celebrate a coach that develops kids, and who has won us 2 nattys, and 1 runner up? Maybe AJ Storr should unpack his bags and trust the guy with 807 wins he came to learn from and give him the benefit of the doubt and not be discouraged or undermine him when we lose 2 games?
We know this team has a high ceiling. That doesnt change when we lose a couple games. I subscribe to @drgnslayr ’s theory that Self didnt amp us for the Creighton game, and didnt care too much about losing that one. Then the Missouri loss was a hangover from our first disruption.
But when you break a bone it (usually) heals stronger. Lets hope for the best here and trust the process. He is much more enjoyable to root for than Dan Turdley, who has already lost 3 games.
I recommend you take a glass half empty approach to Hurley and scribble down a list of “sky is falling” points from the perspective of a Uconn fan and then see if it feels ridiculous or not (assuming you dont pull punches).
Anyway, hoping for the best. And if this is the twilight of the Bill Self Era I intend to root like hell for him.
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@bskeet Nah 4-5 seed this year just like last year and get waxed in the second round by some athletic team
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@approxinfinity His system didn’t win in 2022 I explained this already
His system about got us bounced yet again to creighton without kalkenbrenner
The title game his system got us down 15-16….it was second half fast breaking (getting out and running) that won the title —— same for Miami game
His system is outdated by a mile with the thinking of don’t guard the three as well as the bucket and throw it inside because “closer to the basket means better chance”. Uh no - I don’t want Flory taking shots from DP next year at any time
Running offense through a post man actually causes the ball to stick which is Bill’s biggest pet peeve but yet that’s what he loves is dumping it inside from a stud wing to an average back to the basket big
Frank mason>>>> Landon Lucas
Yet Bill opened games or when we needed a bucket wills force feed Landon not run plays for Frank
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How many shot attempts did Frank Mason take and how many did Landen Lucas take?
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@Jhawk69 When we needed a bucket so late 2nd half and end of game…not sure if I can find that but I’ll try
Frank hit the Duke winner
It is on Landon’s podcast with Coach Self where coach self talked about throwing it into lando when we needed a bucket. He even mentions while being on a team with Frank, Graham and JJ……crazy poor philosophy if you ask me
We get our 4th or 5th best scoring option the ball because of proximity to the goal instead of giving it to our best players 5-10 feet further away
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What is the name of Landen’s poscast?
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@Jhawk69 it’s long since defunct, but I remember it was on Jeff Goodman’s network
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It was with his dad. I liked it a lot!
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@Jhawk69 https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=hWAcQqxK5lU - here you go with video
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@benshawks08 a lot better than josh jacksons podcast? Oh wait, that didnt happen.
