ZACH CLEMENCE COMING BACK?
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@BShark Iāll say this. Thereās a reason Zach is back and not Ernie
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@FarmerJayhawk said in ZACH CLEMENCE COMING BACK?:
@BShark Iāll say this. Thereās a reason Zach is back and not Ernie
I suppose I can air it now that itās not happening. Ernie wanted to come back, just never worked out on KUās end. Zach was willing to do whatever, Ernie wanted more.
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Ah, bummer for Udeh. I liked him.
Those two get into a Tyshawn Taylor vs the KU football team skirmish?
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Ernie wanted more what? Money? What happened last season? Why the secrecy?
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Lots of stuff you hear around Lawrence that doesnāt make it to the boards. I really donāt think it does much good so Iāll just leave it at he failed to meet the standards of the KU basketball program and expectations Self had.
@FarmerJayhawk said in ZACH CLEMENCE COMING BACK?:
@FarmerJayhawk said in ZACH CLEMENCE COMING BACK?:
@BShark Iāll say this. Thereās a reason Zach is back and not Ernie
I suppose I can air it now that itās not happening. Ernie wanted to come back, just never worked out on KUās end. Zach was willing to do whatever, Ernie wanted more.
I heard he thought he should start over Hunter, and also thought he was a OAD right now. Just too fractured to be repaired, on both sides.
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@Bosthawk said in ZACH CLEMENCE COMING BACK?:
Ernie wanted more what? Money?
Role/playing time mostly. Sounds like he has a big ego.
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@BShark his AAU coach has been a bad influence. Mama Udeh is still cranky over the deal
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@FarmerJayhawk said in ZACH CLEMENCE COMING BACK?:
@BShark his AAU coach has been a bad influence. Mama Udeh is still cranky over the deal
āUdeh should have listened to his momā trusted source.
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@BShark good life advice generally tbh
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For sure.
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Thanks, Farmer & BShark!
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@FarmerJayhawk said in ZACH CLEMENCE COMING BACK?:
@BShark good life advice generally tbh
Unless youāre Billy Preston, then donāt listen to your mom.
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@Texas-Hawk-10 especially if sheās banging your bag man. Then NOT GREAT BOB
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I like it. Gives Zach a year to muscle up and learn with no expectation to see the floor. At the same time if he is needed, heaven forbid, he could step in at a moments notice. Kid has some instincts but needs some polish and muscle. He is in a good place to gain both.
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@FarmerJayhawk amen to moms!
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@BShark Udeh sure had good body language on the bench and in the locker room.
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@Texas-Hawk-10 what a nightmare!
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@Texas-Hawk-10 How about if you are Cliff Alexander?
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@AsadZ thatās definitely a no!
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@BShark he sure didnāt act like he had a big ego!
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@Crimsonorblue22 said in ZACH CLEMENCE COMING BACK?:
@BShark he sure didnāt act like he had a big ego!
He literally left for playing time, and at the last possible minute after kinda telling the staff he would be back. He isnāt what he seems.
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@BShark āafter kinda tellingā? I donāt blame him! Maybe 2 more yrs of sitting on the bench? I donāt believe being a practice player against Hunter makes you a great player. You need game time. Do we know what Coach told Udeh? You will sit 3 yrs before I play you much? I think he has to much upside and was an ultimate team guy. I hope Hunter is a team guy.
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@BShark poisonous, constrictor, or bull? Or could it be all 3? I am asking for a friend.
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@BShark Udeh a snake? Sure had most of us fooled. Looked like he loved being a Jayhawk! Or you talking about me?š„°
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ChiChiās NOT a celebration of rude. Got it.
Sounds like I will root for Udeh as much as I do Bryce Thompsonā¦
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The article recently released by the KC Star was kind of weird. His mom hinted he could redshirt and then transfer if things donāt go right. Also mentioned he was going to play the 4 at UCSB and get the offense built around him.
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@TYOHawk said in ZACH CLEMENCE COMING BACK?:
The article recently released by the KC Star was kind of weird. His mom hinted he could redshirt and then transfer if things donāt go right. Also mentioned he was going to play the 4 at UCSB and get the offense built around him.
If things donāt go right weāll be happy to see him transfer I think. Again, I donāt see him as a P5 guy without him putting in just a shit ton of work. I donāt think it is necessarily basketball skill holding him back as much as just not being athletic enough for this level of basketball. Only complete and total dedication to changing his body and how it moves will get him on the court at the P5 level.
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@Kcmatt7 Agreed he has really slow feet and not real powerful or able to get off the floor. When he doesnāt hit some threeās to offset his defensive liabilities heās a double negative.
Great practice body though to have and hopefully this helps him improve.
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@BShark You canāt be serious. Dude was so fun loving on the bench always smiling and hamming it up even when he wasnāt playing big minutes.
That being said hope Hunter takes him to school twice this year
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@BShark said in ZACH CLEMENCE COMING BACK?:
Is he though? If he was initially under the impression that Hunter was only going to be here for a year like most of us were, then it sounded like he was going to be willing to wait his turn. But when it started sounding more and more like it would be two years waiting behind Hunter, then Udeh changed his tune and I donāt blame him one bit for not wanting to wait until heās senior year to start at Kansas while not really getting to play big minutes either.
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I do not think Udeh is a snake. A lot of people in the kids ear. Give him a break.
By every other measure the guy was a great player for us a year ago and I really wish he was still on the roster.
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@Kcmatt7 said in ZACH CLEMENCE COMING BACK?:
I do not think Udeh is a snake. A lot of people in the kids ear. Give him a break.
By every other measure the guy was a great player for us a year ago and I really wish he was still on the roster.
I was getting a bit argumentative with crims. The truth is between how she was portraying him and a snake. I can see his point of view on the matter.
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@Kcmatt7 said in ZACH CLEMENCE COMING BACK?:
@TYOHawk said in ZACH CLEMENCE COMING BACK?:
The article recently released by the KC Star was kind of weird. His mom hinted he could redshirt and then transfer if things donāt go right. Also mentioned he was going to play the 4 at UCSB and get the offense built around him.
If things donāt go right weāll be happy to see him transfer I think. Again, I donāt see him as a P5 guy without him putting in just a shit ton of work. I donāt think it is necessarily basketball skill holding him back as much as just not being athletic enough for this level of basketball. Only complete and total dedication to changing his body and how it moves will get him on the court at the P5 level.
Parker is better than him right now and I think itās kind of crazy that some people donāt realize that.
This is definitely his last chance at KU. Even redshirting he will need to do things the right way, and show improvement.
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@BShark who doesnt realize it?
Edit: i take it back. Dont want to start controversy
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@approxinfinity lol! I havenāt seen Parker play. Just heard his coach say he was more athletic than CB.
I expected a lot more from Zach last yr. Something not right.
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@BShark Parker is not better than Udeh. He canāt alter shots and make plays Udeh can because of Udehās size and athleticism.
I bet this year Udeh produces more than Braun
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You know what I think is crazy ? - I think whatās really crazy is if these kids are so bad non talented not on KU level is then the KU Coaching Staff must be some real looney tunes , because they are the oneās who recruited these kids to KU in the 1st place. - -Now what the hell is wrong with that picture. Maybe we ought to have some people go switch places with the Staff - we wouldnāt lose a game
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@kuballin10 said in ZACH CLEMENCE COMING BACK?:
@BShark Parker is not better than Udeh. He canāt alter shots and make plays Udeh can because of Udehās size and athleticism.
I bet this year Udeh produces more than Braun
I think Udeh is going to be a really good player when itās all said and done
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@kuballin10 said in ZACH CLEMENCE COMING BACK?:
@BShark Parker is not better than Udeh. He canāt alter shots and make plays Udeh can because of Udehās size and athleticism.
I bet this year Udeh produces more than Braun
@BShark wasnāt claiming Parker is better than Udeh, he was comparing Parker to Clemence right now.
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I have seen Parker play and it doesnāt surprise me that he is better than Zach at this point. Santa Clara was a good team and Parker was a significant contributor. He knows situational basketball and may not have Zachās ceiling, but certainly should be able to be an asset in practice and games.
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a little off the subject, but the man named Dick can show out, folks:
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@Jethro said in ZACH CLEMENCE COMING BACK?:
a little off the subject, but the man named Dick can show out, folks:
That suit might be Dorothy inspired, but looks straight out of Michael Jacksonās closet.
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@Crimsonorblue22 said in ZACH CLEMENCE COMING BACK?:
Something not right.
Correct. But from talking to a friend of mine that worked at Sunrise who talked to Zach the other day, it sounds like his head is in the right place now. Bill is giving him one last chance, I hope it works out.
@Texas-Hawk-10 said in ZACH CLEMENCE COMING BACK?:
@kuballin10 said in ZACH CLEMENCE COMING BACK?:
@BShark Parker is not better than Udeh. He canāt alter shots and make plays Udeh can because of Udehās size and athleticism.
I bet this year Udeh produces more than Braun
@BShark wasnāt claiming Parker is better than Udeh, he was comparing Parker to Clemence right now.
Correct.
Oh and @approxinfinity no one here. Seen it on other boards and on twitter. Parker will be a pleasant surprise for many, I feel.
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If he has that Braun athleticism he will contribute.
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@TYOHawk said in ZACH CLEMENCE COMING BACK?:
If he has that Braun athleticism he will contribute.
https://twitter.com/JordanGuskey/status/1671623550380244992
Kev is impressed
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Itās stinks because Udeh had a high ceiling. If he thinks heās OAD caliber he needs a drug test. Canāt shoot from more than 3 feet away from hoop, that sure translates in the NBA today lol. I heard he asked for guaranteed start and more NIL money. Not sure how many times Ive mentioned issue with getting the wrong advice from the wrong person here. Someoneās daddy or AAU coach says youāre MJ or LeBron. Then you get woke up by the real world slapping you in the face.
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@kjayhawks said in ZACH CLEMENCE COMING BACK?:
I heard he asked for guaranteed start and more NIL money.
That is definitely the talk. I also heard not entertaining taking him back was about not wanting to set precedent. Re-negotiations happen all the time, but donāt enter the portal.
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@Texas-Hawk-10 Gradey is a funny guy!
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@BShark Good glad to hear we stood firm. Would have been awesome to have him back if he was happy with off the bench. He left though and doesnāt sound like on great terms.
My bad on the Braun/Clemence/Udeh mix up above
