Fran Hate Us game chat
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I think there comes a time when we just have to admit it. This team just doesn’t have it Period.- -Way to many flaws.- Turnovers , no scoring consistently , to many easy scores on the other end. - -Looking like a 2nd weekend out in the Tourney - -Sorry but sooner or late just got tor realize-- it’s not there this year, Grady tailed of - -Kevin no offense-- - -Juan just a shell of himself - lost all confidence - Bobbie --Pssst - -Joe give me something positive - - - - Udeh has to learn FAST NOW I mean FAST. - -Zuby out ----Zach out - – - just not a good look right now.
Just have to win Monday for even a punchers chance - Texas took a huge step today separating themselves - to much of a cluster–we have got TO WIN - - & got to steal wins at Oklahoma & okie state- - - - just don’t look good, plain and simple
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@cragarhawk UT is more athletic than tcu
It’s a must win game in AFH but I think we get bodied or dog walked on Monday and this board starts to see things for how they really are
When your most underrated should be an all American 4 year pg has 2 points, 3 assist and 2 turnovers
While his counterpart goes: 9 points, 10 assists and 8 boards as a true freshman (Lipsey)
Yeah that doesn’t bode well. Juan gets his steals and he gets beat off the dribble as much as Gradey. Isu went right at both of them
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@jayballer67 Juan is who he was last year.
He just doesn’t have a remy this year to bail him out
A guy who averages 5 pg’s and 3-4 apg last year Bill said is going to be “grrreeaattt” this year and he is wrong
Juan scores 2 more often than 12 which go figure is who he has always been
He is a solid backup ppg which is when our team took off when remy started playing more minutes than him last year
Issue - Bobby sucks and Joe is worse. Bring in the frosh, a transfer guard, a transfer athletic 4 and 5
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I guess I’m just not that down on Juan or any one player. We just didn’t look engaged today like we can be and that’s disappointing. I hate losing because of effort and things like that. I’m okay with getting beat by a better performance
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@wissox said in Fran Hate Us game chat:
Watching golf at Pebble Beach for a spell. Will monitor score.
I got ripped off when i did the same at one point today.
Flipped over, weather looked great, course looked awesome…then I saw Daniel Berger in the lead. I was like, where the hell did he come from?? Replay from last year! Doh!
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Juan is not who he was last yr! Did he score 9 3’s in 3 games? Did he have 18 pts in a game? 11 ast? He’d have more assists if anyone could hit shots. Remy’s yesterdays news. If we could have anybody back from last yr it be CB, Och or Dave.
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@BeddieKU23 said in Fran Hate Us game chat:
Clemence is out 2-3 weeks it looks with a bruised knee
ugh
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@BShark said in Fran Hate Us game chat:
@BeddieKU23 said in Fran Hate Us game chat:
Clemence is out 2-3 weeks it looks with a bruised knee
ugh
And it sounds like they don’t know for sure.
Unraveling at the seems even more
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No use crying over spilled milk. I learned last year you can’t give up on a team because you never know when they could take off. Myself, I can’t wait until we go to the expanded basketball conference schedule next year. This is the downside of being in the best conference in basketball. 2nd game in a row against a Top 10ish team. And now we have a 3rd game against a Top 10 team 2 days later. You’re playing Top 10 teams every game.
I remember when the Big East was the Big East, and considered to be the best conference in basketball. They would slug through so many big conference games, they’d be all bruised and beat up by the end of the season. Give me a home game against BYU / UCF in between these Top 10 gladiator fights.
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@Jethro said in Fran Hate Us game chat:
No use crying over spilled milk. I learned last year you can’t give up on a team because you never know when they could take off. Myself, I can’t wait until we go to the expanded basketball conference schedule next year. This is the downside of being in the best conference in basketball. 2nd game in a row against a Top 10ish team. And now we have a 3rd game against a Top 10 team 2 days later. You’re playing Top 10 teams every game.
I remember when the Big East was the Big East, and considered to be the best conference in basketball. They would slug through so many big conference games, they’d be all bruised and beat up by the end of the season. Give me a home game against BYU / UCF in between these Top 10 gladiator fights.
That Big East won 3 nattys… UConn x 2 and Cuse.
This DEEP run of B12 has produced 2 nattys and 2020 KU and Baylor were two of the favorites.
The conference schedule is a grind, but I wouldn’t say it is bad for us in the long run. This is just an exceptional year where bottom feeders hired good coaches. We need a few guys to get poached
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Assessment of this team is simple. Juan Harris- is not a division 1 player, wasn’t when he got here and won’t be when he leaves. He would not start at any other B12 school right now. Could be a serviceable backup which he ending up being to Remy in last seasons tournament. Gradey Dick- has had a solid freshman season still has to learn how to move without the ball and put it on the floor more often. Defense is average but is young Will break out his slump at some point hopefully tomorrow. Kevin McCullar- is the same exact player he was at Tech last season his stats are almost identical. He’s got to be hitting shots to be effective because Jwil can’t do all the scoring. I don’t think he starts on any B12 team outside of WV, OU and Okie light. Jalen Wilson- Having an all-American type season, forces too many shots imo but I don’t blame him because no one else is aggressive on that end most of the time. Defensively he struggles moving laterally but rebounds well. KJ Adam’s- having his best season if this kid was 6’10 he’d be an all-American. That being said you don’t have to guard him more than 6 foot away from the hoop. He struggles against taller post player’s defensively. No way he starts at the 5 @ any other B12 school. The bench is young and inexperienced would like to see Bobby play less not sure why Self is so high on him. MJ has trouble with injuries and it’s killed his development for this season. Udeh should be getting more minutes and will with other bigs hurt. Joe is hot or Icey cold depending on the day. Basically I’m saying we don’t have the horses in this league plain and simple. When is the last time KU had several starters that wouldn’t start at most of the other teams in the conference? Bill Self knows it too, that’s why he waived the white flag with the 4 game suspension trying to get infractions case resolved. The good news we have seen how KSU completely reloaded to a top 10 team using the portal, either way we have to get some guys in the door. To quote one of my coaches after we got beat by a 5a school as a 2a school “You can have the fastest Jack ass in the world and they won’t let him run with the thoroughbreds in the Kentucky Derby for a reason” we don’t have horses right now. That’s okay we did just win a national title.
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We’d be less worried if we had more than 1 guy who can shoot these days. Very limited team offensively.
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@BeddieKU23 don’t have anyone you can force feed to get a basket.
No Frank type of guard you can uso.
No Big. Oh how I miss Dave, and I never expected to say that.
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We ran some creative sets earlier in the year. Where are the guard post ups?
The chemistry this team had earlier this season was pretty scary when it clicked. Seems like something has changed.
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@BeddieKU23 said in Fran Hate Us game chat:
We ran some creative sets earlier in the year. Where are the guard post ups?
The chemistry this team had earlier this season was pretty scary when it clicked. Seems like something has changed.
I would say 3 things have changed:
We’re playing against better competition every time - 18 games against top 40 teams; 10 games against top 15 teams.
We’re playing teams that are very familiar with what we like to run and have a lot of experience against our sets - and most are very good defensive teams even without that.
We’re now 2/3rds into the season with no development of the bench and the starters playing high 30s minutes every night - tired legs.
What hasn’t changed is if we are hitting shots (esp. GD contributing) and playing with intensity, we can beat anyone. The flip-side is that we can be beat any night if those two things aren’t happening; indeed, we can get beat badly.
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@BeddieKU23 Yea I totally forgot about the guard post ups. Maybe we need to go back to that with Kev early to get him engaged.
The offense has definitely gotten stale.
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@Kcmatt7 said in Fran Hate Us game chat:
@BeddieKU23 Yea I totally forgot about the guard post ups. Maybe we need to go back to that with Kev early to get him engaged.
The offense has definitely gotten stale.
This is what happens when you get into league play. Everyone has a lot more familiarity with the sets everyone runs which makes it more difficult to prepare for.
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@kjayhawks I thought Juan was a Div 1 player. Did we get pushed down to Div 2 for winning the championship?
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@Jethro I think Juan works hard but don’t think he is D1 sorry maybe I’m wrong but I don’t he starts at any other power 5 program without question.
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@kjayhawks said in Fran Hate Us game chat:
@Jethro I think Juan works hard but don’t think he is D1 sorry maybe I’m wrong but I don’t he starts at any other power 5 program without question.
A rabid K-State fan was trying to make the same argument about Juan on Twitter. I just said we’re a hell of a team if our point guard is so bad. Then I reminded him of last week’s score, and invited him to come to Lawrence so he could see what a national championship trophy looks like.
After the national championship, I examined several of the gripes I had with last year’s team, and concluded that none of what I worried about had come true. In fact, the opposite had come true. I think we do ourselves a disservice by thinking our players and coaches are lacking awareness, and have no clue what’s going on.
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@kjayhawks said in Fran Hate Us game chat:
@Jethro I think Juan works hard but don’t think he is D1 sorry maybe I’m wrong but I don’t he starts at any other power 5 program without question.
SMH ---- - mercy
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@Jethro said in Fran Hate Us game chat:
@kjayhawks I thought Juan was a Div 1 player. Did we get pushed down to Div 2 for winning the championship?
Mercy I just seen a statement I didn’t think was possible— - nuff said lol
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@Jethro I don’t think Juan lacks awareness in the slightest. I think he’s got a high basketball IQ and that saves him from how limited he is athletically, his long arms help a lot too. That being said Juan ain’t beating anyone in a foot race or a 3 cone shuffle in the conference. I trust in coach Self, doesn’t mean I agree with everything he does either.
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@kjayhawks Now here is a name I haven’t seen in awhile.
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