Lets go 3-0 on the new season
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Missed the game. The crowd got a T for throwing a water bottle on the court? What gives? Normally the crowd is more educated than that - tempting as it may be.
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@dylans said in Lets go 3-0 on the new season:
Missed the game. The crowd got a T for throwing a water bottle on the court? What gives? Normally the crowd is more educated than that - tempting as it may be.
They got a warning for throwing a water bottle on the court after a bad foul call on Rylan.
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Self sent out a note that was posted on Instagram last night. I think this was unprecedented.
All of it following a disappointing loss after a disappointing season where people are losing their sh*t because they don’t know how to lose. It’s all felt unprecedented.
I don’t like to lose. But it is part of the game. You win some; you lose some.
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@bskeet The note was in response to all the stuff directed towards Zeke to try and take some blame off of him since Self can deal with all that stuff.
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@kjayhawks i see
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Here’s hoping for a better senior night!
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I guess for the NBA fans out there the Jayhawks are the equivalent of a 49 win team. I would not expect big things this March.
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I live in Ohio, and I’m sorry, but it’s become obvious to me that a LOT of Kansas fans under 30 are spoiled brats. I think the fact that they are also Chiefs fans makes this worse. They haven’t really experienced losing, so they can’t handle it. Mix the age, the keyboard warrior mentality, the media-driven modern win it all or you are just a loser narrative, and it’s a mess.
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@BigBad said in Lets go 3-0 on the new season:
I live in Ohio, and I’m sorry, but it’s become obvious to me that a LOT of Kansas fans under 30 are spoiled brats. I think the fact that they are also Chiefs fans makes this worse. They haven’t really experienced losing, so they can’t handle it. Mix the age, the keyboard warrior mentality, the media-driven modern win it all or you are just a loser narrative, and it’s a mess.
Very true at this point in the season if you expect much outta this group, you are showing you lack of basketball knowledge. It’s a bad year and it stinks for sure but we were statistically due to not even make the tournament. I’ve been frustrated a lot but I have hope with Peterson coming in we can get back to Kansas basketball as soon as next season. I set a goal of winning 20 games and making the tournament as the ceiling and realistic goal for this bunch.
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Long way from faces change, expectations don’t…
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Everything is insane. Kansas has a down year and bill self releases a statement. St. John’s wins a REGULAR season title and act like they win the national championship
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@BigBad It’s because they finally got better than Jay Wright and took the crown from Villanova. Oh wait, Jay retired?
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Couple of questions here:
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Is this roster not equipped to play modern basketball or has the game passed Self by? (Refusing to accept the 3 pointers aren’t fools gold and need to be shot and defended)
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What are the odds of us losing out and being a 9 or 10 seed? (Worst in history is an 8 in 2000, never worn blues in game 1)
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Is there any chance you could rename this site “KU Endzone” since many of us are now more interested in the oval ball than the round one?
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@nuleafjhawk said in Lets go 3-0 on the new season:
Is there any chance you could rename this site “KU Endzone” since many of us are now more interested in the oval ball than the round one?
I still have zero passion for KU football. No way I get anywhere near that bothered about KU football losing even all their games. KU basketball loses a few games and it bothers me greatly. Cost of being a fan.
Barring a plane crash like WSU I would never shed a tear for KU football. Look at all the crying on here about KU basketball.
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@dylans different strokes… I mean, for years I felt that way too. But since LL has been here, there’s a glimmer of hope. If you’re a KU fan, even a mediocre (not talking about you) fan - you were excited for football last year for the first time in a WHILE. It didn’t pan out like we wanted, but it still was good to have some anticipation. I feel that way about this coming season. Basketball - I’m used to total domination and being a meh team has no interest to me at all.
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Word of advise (take it or leave it, I’m far from infallible). Temper your expectations for KU football to reduce the disappointment. I hope the hype is real and I feel as though the program is building in the correct way. I still won’t be surprised by a meh season - more than 2 losses eliminates KU from a meaningful postseason game. Since that’s what I expect, it won’t bother me. Those expecting a playoff birth will be disappointed pretty much every year.
If a person did the same thing with KU basketball, imagine the joy you could experience in a year like 2022 instead of expecting it.
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@dylans if anyone is expecting KU football to make the Playoff, they are in for a very harsh reality check. Just make a bowl game is my goal at this point until I see us in action.
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@kjayhawks Yeah - no crazy expectations. A good bowl game would be a great step in the right direction.
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Not sure it’s the roster. We brought in Mayo, Griffen & Coit to shoot the 3 and they do just that. Returnees Harris and Dickinson are not good 3 pt shooters. Storr is shooting career lows across the board (FG, 3pt, FT).
It’s how we are getting the looks and the reliance on getting the ball inside to shoot 2’s. It’s a complete mess.
It’s certainly possible we limp into the tournament with 13 losses at this stage.
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@BeddieKU23 I sometimes feel like we don’t let the guys shoot enough or look to score from the outside is some of the issue. You can play inside-out to generate good looks from distance. I still think half of our guys looked terrified to shoot the ball. Interesting stat on Twitter, said this will be our worst season since 83 and that is also the last time we lost a home game in the month of March. 42 straight senior days will be on the line Saturday.
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@BigBad said in Lets go 3-0 on the new season:
I live in Ohio, and I’m sorry, but it’s become obvious to me that a LOT of Kansas fans under 30 are spoiled brats. I think the fact that they are also Chiefs fans makes this worse. They haven’t really experienced losing, so they can’t handle it. Mix the age, the keyboard warrior mentality, the media-driven modern win it all or you are just a loser narrative, and it’s a mess.
This isn’t just fans under 30. There are a lot of older fans as well, that have no clue how to handle a down year. This has been brutal on the floor, but I’d argue our fans off the floor have been far more embarrassing.
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Oh yeah that’s certainly a real thing. When players at KU play with confidence you can see it. There’s very little of it these days. It’s time for a reset on many fronts after this season
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The Captain Obvious people have pointed to Mayo for this loss. He did have probably his worst game ever as a Jayhawk. But to point blame?
First… fan send him threatening messages… Really? If you can’t smell a purple kitty or mizzou tig doing this, then you haven’t been a Hawk fan long enough to know the stunts pulled.
Throw out Mayo’s 5 TOs, and add a few more makes on his stats… we still would have lost because we never adjusted to what they were doing. Our on-ball screen defense is easily the worst I’ve ever seen under Self. Anyone remember what he used to teach? Heck… they used to never switch and our guys fought through screens so hard opponents gave up running them because their arms would get beat down so hard. And now? I watched this game and I could see our screen defenders getting beat on screens a full two seconds before the screen. They were never setup to beat screens. So we switched… and our switch defense was horrific. Hunter continually got slaughtered.
To make all of our woes intensified our weakside defensive help is horrendous. Basically, we have 4 guys playing most the game in “no mans’ land” not guarding anyone, then get murdered on the trey. Even worse… these same teams drive right past our interior with 4 to 5 players like they aren’t even there, and make a layup or get fouled.
This is so painful to watch. I can’t wait for this season to be over. I’m thinking of having a frontal lobotomy to try to remove my memory bank from this year. It’s challenging everything I ever thought of Self and his KU teams.
Do I blame Self? I know many of you disagree… but yes, I blame Self more than players.
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@Woodrow You just have to understand it happens everywhere, but people don’t want to hear that. Look how good U Conn has been in the last what ?- - --I will give them the benefit of the doubt- -like ten years? - -Well where they at now -this year they sure the hell not in any bette spot having lost nine- -ten games and in like third or fourth in the Big East – It cycles-- it’s going to happen TO EVERYONE. Sooner or later it’s coming
With the way the Portal and the way it’s become , how the NIL has become a factor and turned it all into a big Meat Market ,it has made it as to where the better talented players are becoming more evenly dispersed it’s changed the playing field.
Certain Colleges still me actually have a richer history , and remain a blueblood if that College might not have that strong of belief in the NIL and or refuse to just throw money around as much- - then bigger brand school or not they will lose out to the more talented player in a lot of cases These players- - these more talented players are going where they are going to get paid more money whether they actually feel the other school less NIL is Still a better school- - -they taking that better deal.
Do you seriously believe that if all things equal straight across the board you can seriously sit there and actually say that players like AJ Bantysia the # 1 ranked recruit coming in next year if BYU hadn’t tossed all that money at him , you seriously believe he would of still committed to BYU ?- -If you do then I call BS.- -do you think if KSU hadn’t offered Coleman Hawkins the money they did, he still would of went there anyway ?-- Ya ?- -ok lmao. Again the talented id more spread out…
Back to the cycling where all schools or biggest majority of them go through cycles of down years and it’s just going to het worse with the distrubution of players across the Nation now- Big reason people see it more badly like with KU - -A Lot bigger brand-- blueblood , Historty- -when we have down year- -years when cycling people just can’t grasp reality.
Look at Kentucky ? Huge Brand Name School - -blue blood of blue bloods - -down years , always loaded with 5 * players and portal players , what are they doing this year ?- -hoovering around with eight nine losses- - - cycling, you don’t think they won’t er back ? -What about N Carolina ? - -Cycling Do these teams just suck ?- -umm no , it’s the other Schools now getting better elite players also. Your not ever gonna see anything again like what KU did with winning so many dam conferences i a row. You’ll neve come close to ever seeing a dynasty like UCla had- -It’s just got a lot harder with the Portal and NIL
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@dylans healthy take.
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@SlimShaddy54 maybe. Or maybe small school donors get tired of shelling out big money for recruits if it doesnt translate to success.
I agree with you in principle but the dust hasnt settled. We will see if new normalized behavior leads to a competitive advantage for the more motivated basketball schools.
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@approxinfinity Hopefully that doesn’t just mean the SEC donors realize it’s cheaper to have good basketball than football and decide to do both! This year is bothersome in that aspect.
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@approxinfinity Well that’s what I like , everyone can have their own opinions/views makes the world go round
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It is crazy fans have gone after players after games with threats etc and that’s not right at all. I guess we no longer have the prim and proper fanbase, we have examples now of our fans acting the same way as fanbases we loath.
It would be nice to know what thought process Mayo had on that shot… That was a bad take. Was that the play drawn up out of the timeout?
How many years have we been running the switching defense now? How many times Saturday did David Coit get stuck on a guy 1 ft+ taller than him and that possession ended up negatively for KU, seemed like a lot not just in the former but that our switching defense created poor defensive matchups that were exploited.
Lack of adjustment to Tech shooting 3’s and help defense has been a pretty systemic issue this year (Creighton, BYU among examples).
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@drgnslayr Well you have all the right to have your opinion , that’s what great about America, freedom of Choice- -speech - -opinion, I respect that. No one says we have to agree on everything , healthy discussion , well for most of us it’s healthy , there are some that they just want to rag no matter what. - Hell we could go 30-0 and they would still find something to bitch about or someone to bitch about- - must be really miserable to be like that.
Nothing wrong with how you feel or believe/think again doesn’t mean we have to agree with everything – it’s all good.
We all have opinions-- views , thing is NO ON can say absolutely 100 % for sure what is wrong for sure, it can be a mixture of all things mentioned. No matte though at the end of the day/year I will still be a Jay Hawk fan for life.- Difference between a Real fan and a Closet fan - - you only see closet fans thumpin their chest when things are going good - -a REAL fan sticks with the team through Good times and bad times-- not saying by any means your a closet fan - -just saying buddy - - ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG
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@drgnslayr It’s better to have a bottle in front of me than a frontal lobotomy. So I hear.
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@Woodrow said in Lets go 3-0 on the new season:
@BigBad said in Lets go 3-0 on the new season:
I live in Ohio, and I’m sorry, but it’s become obvious to me that a LOT of Kansas fans under 30 are spoiled brats. I think the fact that they are also Chiefs fans makes this worse. They haven’t really experienced losing, so they can’t handle it. Mix the age, the keyboard warrior mentality, the media-driven modern win it all or you are just a loser narrative, and it’s a mess.
This isn’t just fans under 30. There are a lot of older fans as well, that have no clue how to handle a down year. This has been brutal on the floor, but I’d argue our fans off the floor have been far more embarrassing.
I think a lot of it is our experience and preseason ranking, most of us were fine with down years in 2005, 2009, 2014, 2019 and 2023. The manor in which we lose is also super frustrating for the most experienced team in CBB. If we just would’ve had our head outta our asses we could easily be sitting at 24-5 and tonight’s game would be deciding the B12.
