Generic soccer thread
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@rockchalkjayhawk said in Generic soccer thread:
@BShark said in Generic soccer thread:
Looks like the new coach is hired
Oh yea? Busy day, haven’t looked. Who?
At the time I posted, I wasn’t 100% sure then it started to come out from more reliable reporters.
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@BShark said in Generic soccer thread:
@rockchalkjayhawk said in Generic soccer thread:
@BShark said in Generic soccer thread:
Looks like the new coach is hired
Oh yea? Busy day, haven’t looked. Who?
At the time I posted, I wasn’t 100% sure then it started to come out from more reliable reporters.
Still seems a “sources say” kinda deal.
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KU women won their first game of the season under new HC, both goals were scored by freshmen.
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@AsadZ Does KU not have a mens team because of title 9?
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@wissox said in Generic soccer thread:
@AsadZ Does KU not have a mens team because of title 9?
Basically. KU would have to add more women’s sports as well to support having a men’s soccer program to stay compliant with Title IX.
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@Texas-Hawk-10 From the perspective of the rest of the world, KU already has a men’s “football” team.
️Actually, they would not have to add an actual team in other women’s sports if they can show they offered the opportunity to women to play in other sports but could not draw enough participants to make it viable despite legitimate recruiting efforts.
Almost every school complies with the equal numbers test (which looks distorted due to college football teams having so many men), but there are two other ways schools can comply. One is the one I just referred to (it has been awhile, so my description is a rough summary), but I forget the third “safe harbor.” No one wants to go to the trouble of using tests 2 or 3.
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@mayjay said in Generic soccer thread:
@Texas-Hawk-10 From the perspective of the rest of the world, KU already has a men’s “football” team.
️Actually, they would not have to add an actual team in other women’s sports if they can show they offered the opportunity to women to play in other sports but could not draw enough participants to make it viable despite legitimate recruiting efforts.
Almost every school complies with the equal numbers test (which looks distorted due to college football teams having so many men), but there are two other ways schools can comply. One is the one I just referred to (it has been awhile, so my description is a rough summary), but I forget the third “safe harbor.” No one wants to go to the trouble of using tests 2 or 3.
Your first part wouldn’t fly in a federal investigation because there’s several women’s sports that KU could add that would absolutely have enough interest to become sustainable. Gymnastics would be the most likely program to add to balance adding a men’s soccer team.
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@Texas-Hawk-10 My point was that so many people blame Title 9 for not having additional men’s sports, or when cuts are made to men’s programs. Athletic departments pour gas on that fire by posturing as if they are required to even up the numbers rather than meeting the standards by adding programs for women.
As you say, KU could add new programs for women if they wanted to add men’s soccer. I was referring to the hypothetical situation IF no women wanted to join those programs. Trying to do it in good faith but not succeeding is a valid Title 9 defense to numerical disparities. As I said, no one uses that defense and just lops men’s programs on Title 9.
To be honest, your comment indicates the likely reason: schools are cutting men’s, and not adding women’s, programs because in all likelihood the sports would be successful participation-wise, and ADs don’t want the expense of carrying more non-revenue sports. The definition, really, of a zero-sum situation due to limited budgets. (I do hope Breaking, despite its apparent popularity, doesn’t become an NCAA sport, but the revenue possibilities might be intriguing. Recruiting trip reports might be fun: “No, we didn’t visit any dancers’ homes. We spent the entire trip in clubs.”)
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Ok, so Pulisic and Milan are on the TV this morning. Turned it on.
But, I’ll be turning it off lickety split! There is a constant police siren on in the background. I can’t take it! Is that normal for Italian football? Ear pollution so early in the a.m. for me. Grrr.
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@rockchalkjayhawk did you watch the match against Canada?
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@approxinfinity said in Generic soccer thread:
@rockchalkjayhawk did you watch the match against Canada?
Sadly I did. U?
I was watching pregame, and the pundits made some points I agreed with entirely. Motivation and effort. Entirely lacking at times in recent games, and as this game progressed. That used to be our calling card.
Take the first 20 minutes of the game as an example: FOUR guys were left wide open in the box on different plays. Where’s the personal motivation to stop the opposing team? I don’t get it.
Not a good effort. I know we had some different players out there, but still.
I hope this is the result of not having a coach!
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The mighty New Zealand!
I hear they are nearly as good as Bucknell!
Oh how the mighty have fallen. This may be as down as I’ve ever been about the US soccer team. I am usually pretty excited to watch the games, but that enthusiasm is waning with the crap product on the field.
Jokes (or not) aside, the US squad at least played with some effort, but maybe lacked some other elements.
I guess there was no VAR, but maybe things would have been different with a 2-1 win if so. Maybe even 2-0. Our first goal was called off for a foul, but replay showed he got the ball. And the NZ goal seemed to go off dude’s arm?
Nitpicking, but a win would have inspired more confidence in this team. On to Poch!
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I cannot believe and SMH how US allowed NZ to equalize so late, that was very poor D
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New chapter starts…… NOW!
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I didnt really watch the New Zealand game. The previous game, I wasnt that down on our play to be honest. I saw us play much directly/vertically than ever under Berhalter and I think we will need some of that to unlock the potential we have. It never felt like we were out of the game. It would have felt over with Bethalter with 20 to go as he salted away our chances.
I remain extremely optimistic. Trust in Poch and give him time. I think we will see many different players get looks as he sorts out what he has.
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@approxinfinity said in Generic soccer thread:
I didnt really watch the New Zealand game. The previous game, I wasnt that down on our play to be honest. I saw us play much directly/vertically than ever under Berhalter and I think we will need some of that to unlock the potential we have. It never felt like we were out of the game. It would have felt over with Bethalter with 20 to go as he salted away our chances.
I remain extremely optimistic. Trust in Poch and give him time. I think we will see many different players get looks as he sorts out what he has.
I’m gonna have to rewatch the Canada game one of these nights. I was semi sorta maybe kinda napping during most of it TBH. zzz.
Canada is not a bad team. I think our record is 3-5-2 in 2024 so far? That is the most uninspiring part!
Bring on Poch! I hope he can instill some sort of plan or confidence ASAP. Next games are in October i think.
Can he find two center backs by then? Maybe he’s been doing some behind-the-scenes international recruiting we don’t know about…ha.
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Anybody catch the two recent USA friendlies?
I watched some of both, but not too carefully. Jeez, am I losing interest in this mediocre roster? Unlike me. Ha.
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Be patient. We werent fully staffed. Mexico meant nothing. I didnt watch it yet tbh. But watched Panama (?). We played very competently offensively i thought.
Trust the process.
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Yea, patience required with a new coach.
I forgot we played Panama, so actually watched it (or some of it) after the Mexico match. That was unpleasant. Never ever want to be outclassed by Mexico!
I am not sure I uncovered any new tactics yet with Poch. I’ll need to skim thru the games again.
Seemed like the usual 4-3-3?
Anyway, odd for me to not be too excited to watch the US side. That says something I guess !
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@rockchalkjayhawk said in Generic soccer thread:
Anybody catch the two recent USA friendlies?
I watched some of both, but not too carefully. Jeez, am I losing interest in this mediocre roster? Unlike me. Ha.
Very little should be taken from these friendlies. The Nations League matches against Jamaica will be better for seeing the new direction of US Soccer.
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How about KU Women Soccer.
They beat West Virginia in Big 12 semis yesterday, big upset.
They have won 6 games in a row.
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KU Women just upset 2 seed and 17th ranked Texas Tech 2-1 in the semifinals of the B12 Tournament. They will play TCU on Saturday for the B12 championship.
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@Texas-Hawk-10 said in Generic soccer thread:
KU Women just upset 2 seed and 17th ranked Texas Tech 2-1 in the semifinals of the B12 Tournament. They will play TCU on Saturday for the B12 championship.
Ya that’s what we love to hear, - they have been on a roll lately - -Good Luck Ladies
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@Texas-Hawk-10 I am liking what new coach has done this year
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USA faces Jamaica tonight in the return leg of Nations league play.
The first game was pretty dull. The pitch was godawful. Oh, and Pepi got the start up top.
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Wow wow wow. That was the best first half I may have ever seen the US play! Awesome. So refined in their passing. Exciting.
They had a very odd formation. They started in the 4-2-3-1, but it ended up a blob all in the middle of the field. Even Jedi was playing inside! So weird.
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I need to watch first half. Wasnt at the house. Excited! Will report back.
