Generic soccer thread
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Ok, so Pulisic and Milan are on the TV this morning. Turned it on.
But, I’ll be turning it off lickety split! There is a constant police siren on in the background. I can’t take it! Is that normal for Italian football? Ear pollution so early in the a.m. for me. Grrr.
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@rockchalkjayhawk did you watch the match against Canada?
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@approxinfinity said in Generic soccer thread:
@rockchalkjayhawk did you watch the match against Canada?
Sadly I did. U?
I was watching pregame, and the pundits made some points I agreed with entirely. Motivation and effort. Entirely lacking at times in recent games, and as this game progressed. That used to be our calling card.
Take the first 20 minutes of the game as an example: FOUR guys were left wide open in the box on different plays. Where’s the personal motivation to stop the opposing team? I don’t get it.
Not a good effort. I know we had some different players out there, but still.
I hope this is the result of not having a coach!
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The mighty New Zealand!
I hear they are nearly as good as Bucknell!
Oh how the mighty have fallen. This may be as down as I’ve ever been about the US soccer team. I am usually pretty excited to watch the games, but that enthusiasm is waning with the crap product on the field.
Jokes (or not) aside, the US squad at least played with some effort, but maybe lacked some other elements.
I guess there was no VAR, but maybe things would have been different with a 2-1 win if so. Maybe even 2-0. Our first goal was called off for a foul, but replay showed he got the ball. And the NZ goal seemed to go off dude’s arm?
Nitpicking, but a win would have inspired more confidence in this team. On to Poch!
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I cannot believe and SMH how US allowed NZ to equalize so late, that was very poor D
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New chapter starts…… NOW!
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I didnt really watch the New Zealand game. The previous game, I wasnt that down on our play to be honest. I saw us play much directly/vertically than ever under Berhalter and I think we will need some of that to unlock the potential we have. It never felt like we were out of the game. It would have felt over with Bethalter with 20 to go as he salted away our chances.
I remain extremely optimistic. Trust in Poch and give him time. I think we will see many different players get looks as he sorts out what he has.
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@approxinfinity said in Generic soccer thread:
I didnt really watch the New Zealand game. The previous game, I wasnt that down on our play to be honest. I saw us play much directly/vertically than ever under Berhalter and I think we will need some of that to unlock the potential we have. It never felt like we were out of the game. It would have felt over with Bethalter with 20 to go as he salted away our chances.
I remain extremely optimistic. Trust in Poch and give him time. I think we will see many different players get looks as he sorts out what he has.
I’m gonna have to rewatch the Canada game one of these nights. I was semi sorta maybe kinda napping during most of it TBH. zzz.
Canada is not a bad team. I think our record is 3-5-2 in 2024 so far? That is the most uninspiring part!
Bring on Poch! I hope he can instill some sort of plan or confidence ASAP. Next games are in October i think.
Can he find two center backs by then? Maybe he’s been doing some behind-the-scenes international recruiting we don’t know about…ha.
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Anybody catch the two recent USA friendlies?
I watched some of both, but not too carefully. Jeez, am I losing interest in this mediocre roster? Unlike me. Ha.
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Be patient. We werent fully staffed. Mexico meant nothing. I didnt watch it yet tbh. But watched Panama (?). We played very competently offensively i thought.
Trust the process.
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Yea, patience required with a new coach.
I forgot we played Panama, so actually watched it (or some of it) after the Mexico match. That was unpleasant. Never ever want to be outclassed by Mexico!
I am not sure I uncovered any new tactics yet with Poch. I’ll need to skim thru the games again.
Seemed like the usual 4-3-3?
Anyway, odd for me to not be too excited to watch the US side. That says something I guess !
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@rockchalkjayhawk said in Generic soccer thread:
Anybody catch the two recent USA friendlies?
I watched some of both, but not too carefully. Jeez, am I losing interest in this mediocre roster? Unlike me. Ha.
Very little should be taken from these friendlies. The Nations League matches against Jamaica will be better for seeing the new direction of US Soccer.
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How about KU Women Soccer.
They beat West Virginia in Big 12 semis yesterday, big upset.
They have won 6 games in a row.
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KU Women just upset 2 seed and 17th ranked Texas Tech 2-1 in the semifinals of the B12 Tournament. They will play TCU on Saturday for the B12 championship.
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@Texas-Hawk-10 said in Generic soccer thread:
KU Women just upset 2 seed and 17th ranked Texas Tech 2-1 in the semifinals of the B12 Tournament. They will play TCU on Saturday for the B12 championship.
Ya that’s what we love to hear, - they have been on a roll lately - -Good Luck Ladies
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@Texas-Hawk-10 I am liking what new coach has done this year
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USA faces Jamaica tonight in the return leg of Nations league play.
The first game was pretty dull. The pitch was godawful. Oh, and Pepi got the start up top.
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Wow wow wow. That was the best first half I may have ever seen the US play! Awesome. So refined in their passing. Exciting.
They had a very odd formation. They started in the 4-2-3-1, but it ended up a blob all in the middle of the field. Even Jedi was playing inside! So weird.
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I need to watch first half. Wasnt at the house. Excited! Will report back.
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The women have been playing in the She Believes tourney this week. They brought an inexperienced, youthful side mostly. There were many faces I didn’t recognize. One player looked good I thought: Stentnor?? Not sure of the spelling.
She was great on the ball. Creative. That’s a much needed skill. Attack, attack, attack. Loved it.
As much as I so far bad mouth Maccario, she had a beautiful assist. They had her at striker, too. She looked less ball hoggy there.
They lost to Japan in the last game. Japan looked super duper sharp. I assume their 11 was full of regulars.
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Forgot to post this the other day!
USA played Panama in the Nations league, and lost in the waning seconds.
Some odd people in odd positions to start the game. Mostly surprised to see Weston McKennie as the center mid #10 in a 4-2-3-1.
I always liked him and Tyler Adams teaming up in the defensive end, but they were on separate lines.
Anway, uneventful mostly. US had some good chances. Pulisic was messy.
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The good ole US of A played Turkey today in a men’s friendly.
This was supposed to be a lead up to the Gold Cup. The roster is super sketchy!
There were a few guys starting that even an ardent supporter like me hadn’t heard of.
We had some chances, but blew others few for sure. Turkey was feisty!
I’m starting to enjoy Diego Luna’s game and energy. I hope his future is bright on the roster.
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@rockchalkjayhawk im happy the young guys are playing but it was tough to watch. I bailed at half.
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I like Luna as well!
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I haven’t been able to keep up, thanks for the updates
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I have faith that Pochettino is building something but our building out of the backfield was mentally sluggish. First goal was a pass with the outside of the right foot as he ranged left by Johnny Cardoza that bounced off the pressing player for a goal. The simple play was to pass back to keep or wingback and at least carry that with his left so he can shield with his body.
Hope its a learning moment.
Our back 4 wasnt good enough when it was veteran retreads every game under Berhalter so i like working with the youth. I am a little concerned that Miles Robinson isnt good enough.
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@approxinfinity said in Generic soccer thread:
I have faith that Pochettino is building something but our building out of the backfield was mentally sluggish. First goal was a pass with the outside of the right foot as he ranged left by Johnny Cardoza that bounced off the pressing player for a goal. The simple play was to pass back to keep or wingback and at least carry that with his left so he can shield with his body.
Hope its a learning moment.
Our back 4 wasnt good enough when it was veteran retreads every game under Berhalter so i like working with the youth. I am a little concerned that Miles Robinson isnt good enough.
Yea, that “own goal” was beyond reasonable explanation. A Mental breakdown. How he could come to that decision with the ball right in front of the goal I dunno.
I really haven’t decided on Miles Robinson yet. He’s supposed to be good, but I’m not sure we’ve seen that yet. He does not stand out.
The sad part is that Poch was supposed to breath some new life into the squad. Have we seen that happen? even with our star players? I’m not sure he has set us up with his style of play yet. Clock’s ticking. One year til the World Cup.
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Pretty exciting Nation’s league final today. Neighbors Spain v Portugal.
Lots of back forth, old guys with 40-year-old Ronaldo, young guys with 17-year-old Yamal, yellow cards, hard fouls, blistering goals, PKs and the works.
Well worth the watch.
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Well, if you like fast and furious goals, be sure to catch the US vs Switzerland.
A complete and total bitch slapping of a first half!
The junior high aged US squad was comically inept.
At some point it would be nice if we could actually try to win a game.
Poch is 5-5. That’s no bueno.
Anybody calling for his head yet? WTF is he doing?
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@rockchalkjayhawk he’s being the exact opposite of Berhalter
instead of grinding out games with retreads he is throwing the kids in the fire and letting them take a beating.I agree people are grumbly. Hope he and the federation are prepared for a firestorm. Nice to see Berhalter’s kid still got his nepotistic chance in the sun. In a nation of 350 million people, what are the chances his son is good enough on merit alone. I know the answer. Its fine, hes just as good as thousands of other kids who wont get that shot. Why not him?
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Yea, I think Poch is discovering that the talent pool drops off considerably for the US once the first 18 or so players aren’t on the roster.
This ain’t European football.
You can play em, but they have to perform and put some effort in. The defense was just standing around watching guys run by em.
Not looking forward to the Gold Cup.
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effort and passion is lacking throughout the entire American pay to play system. We shelter these kids from real competition, and we approach competition as a showcase for individual talent. That team was probably exponentially harder than teams many of them have faced on the pitch and it shouldnt be that way.
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Unfortunately, there are reasons why the best coaches and most talented players are seldom the ones that are our champions.
