Generic soccer thread
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But I would like to pursue Pochettino, Chelsea did him dirty and he was building something.
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He gone. More time to BBQ poolside with Claudio Reyna?
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From The NY Times: Klopp says thanks but no thanks.
Jurgen Klopp has rebuffed an approach from the United States Soccer Federation (USSF) to take over as the men’s national team head coach following the dismissal of Gregg Berhalter.
Initial contact was made with Klopp regarding the possibility of leading the USMNT but he reiterated that he would like a break from football, according to sources privy to the matter. Despite that, interest remains, sources add, from US Soccer in making the 57-year-old their next head coach.
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I keep reading stories that put a strike against any coach without international experience. I don’t get it. Why does that matter? Coaching is coaching, right? What am I missing?
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@rockchalkjayhawk said in Generic soccer thread:
I keep reading stories that put a strike against any coach without international experience. I don’t get it. Why does that matter? Coaching is coaching, right? What am I missing?
International soccer is very different from club soccer in the way you manage teams. And with basically no real prep tournaments for the 2026 World Cup (Gold Cup is a very weak tournament), finding someone who can pull something out his ass the way Jesse Marsch did with Canada this Copa America tournament is going to determine how successful the US will be in the World Cup. The US has the talent to reach the quarterfinals of the World Cup, but consistently underachieves to their talent. If the US wants to take the next step, they need to pay what it takes to bring in a world class manager. If not, we’ll keep sweating out the group stages and bowing out in the first knockout stage games.
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Congrats to Germany… on doing a wonderful job hosting the Euros. Fields were pristine, refs were pretty good (except when they screwed Germany… at least they didnt screw a guest!
the matches had loads of drama and storylines, the theme song was well selected, and the closing ceremonies were beautiful.Fun watch.
Go Spain!
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Yup, amazing fields. Proper widths, too!
The one thing I didn’t quite get at the German stadiums … all the hand drawn signs hanging off the first row. I remember one stadium had signs of all the EPL teams crudely made? No biggie, but it sloppified the clean everything else.
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Must be a big party in Spain yesterday with Alcarez winning Wimbledon and football team winning Euros.
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That image of Messi bawling after limping off the pitch was striking.
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The coaching rumors are starting to heat up!
The latest big name: Mauricio Pochettino
Also these guys: LAFC’s Steve Cherundolo and Columbus Crew’s Wilfried Nancy. Jurgen Klopp, Herve Renard, and Patrick Vieira.
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Im all in on pochettino
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Me too i think. I’m all OUT on Vieira.
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Yeah vieira seems like a horrible choice.
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Meant to post this earlier…more bad luck for Tyler Adams. Out for an extended time after back surgery. Sucks all around. He may not be the long term answer at central mid. Hope he recovers and can play.
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Ha, Olympic women’s soccer news!
Two Canadian coaches sent home and the head coach suspended for drone spying on the New Zealand team!
Idiots.
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and the US team got trounced today. I didn’t realize there were so many recognizable names on the roster. Surprisingly the middle backs were Zimmerman and Robinson. Well, mostly surprised about Zimmerman. Let the young guys play!
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@rockchalkjayhawk dont you know, we only have 4 centerbacks in the United States? Ridiculous.
We played ok.
If this was an interview for Thierry Henry as usmnt coach, he passed!
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If i had to choose a French coach, i suppose i’d rather have Vieira. i dunno. pass on both?
I hear they are secretly cloning Walker Zimmerman. The new version should be ready soon!
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@rockchalkjayhawk I read that, can’t believe they thought they could get by with that!
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Nice dominant win yesterday for the US men in need of a win. Was hoping for the shutout for the point differential, but oh well.
The fun part about watching this team is learning more about guys I don’t know much about: Tolkin and McGlynn in particular. Wow does McGlynn have an amazing left foot shot! Tolkin is pretty exciting. Made lots of things happen.
On the flip side, I have a few complaints! I haven’t seen much of Tessman — but not a fan. IMO he just sucked. Nearly every time he passed the ball it was a turnover. Bad decision making. Stupid fouls with a yellow. He was bad, and seemed lethargic or nonchalant.
Paredes. Hmmm. Whining, flopping, weak play.
Fun game though.
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I didn’t get to watch the game against Guinea. Sounds like we played well and advanced. Nice!
It also sounds like Paredes had a helluva game. Hope that continues for sure!
And I must be the worst talent evaluator ever. One great soccer resource claims Tanner Tessman has been the best player on the pitch the last few games. Go figure.
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Good gravy. I’m only 38 minutes into the US-Morocco match, but I don’t even think the US has touched the ball yet!
Morocco’s on the front foot! Turn it around, boys!
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@rockchalkjayhawk Turn the match off and don’t finish it.
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Damn. Morocco looked the best team in the world today! wow. Sucks we lost, but they are fun to watch. creative, quick, pressing. nicely done.
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Saw this today. sounds like there’s some debate, but possible.
https://sbisoccer.com/2024/08/reports-pellegrino-matarazzo-offered-usmnt-head-coaching-job
The next U.S. men’s national team head coach could reportedly come from the German Bundesliga.
Pellegrino Matarazzo has reportedly been offered the position by U.S. Soccer, multiple reports confirmed Saturday. German outlet Kicker reported that Matarazzo is still undecided while Bild stated that he has already informed his current club Hoffenheim that he wants to leave for the position.
The news comes recently after Hoffenheim parted ways with sporting director Alexander Rosen.
The 46-year-old is currently on his third managerial position at club level with Hoffenheim. Matarazzo joined the Bundesliga club in February, taking over for the fired Andre Breitenreiter.
He has won 20 of his 52 matches in charge of Hoffenheim.
Prior to his move there Matarazzo managed Stuttgart from December 2019 to October 2022. He helped the club fight off relegation in Spring of 22′.
The New Jersey-born Matarazzo played collegiately at Columbia University before embarking to Germany in 2000.
Matarazzo would take over for Gregg Berhalter, who was relieved of his duties in July after the USMNT’s group stage exit from the Copa America.
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If you’re a geek like me…he likes a 3-5-2 formation. It can be defensive minded, with counter attacking as critical.
Relies heavily on wingbacks. Not a bad fit for the USA i’d say. We have Jedi and Dest who can fit that role. Maybe even Musah if they figure out his spot.
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@rockchalkjayhawk we only have 2 centerbacks in the entire country, so you might be right. Not sold on Dest at this point. I was high on him and then he seemed to mentally self destruct under the pressure.
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@approxinfinity said in Generic soccer thread:
@rockchalkjayhawk we only have 2 centerbacks in the entire country, so you might be right. Not sold on Dest at this point. I was high on him and then he seemed to mentally self destruct under the pressure.
So true about the CBs!!!
I’m with you on Dest. He was hyped up, but maybe needs a few more hours in the oven. he’s only 23, shockingly. Still time for his mental abilities to catch up to the physical.
Nature rarely allows this without drugs (ahem Lebron James), but i noticed in my early 30s while playing rec league soccer that my soccer brain and physical combo was at about its peak.
You just see the field way easier as you mature. Too bad the body doesn’t keep up!
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What a goal against Japan to get US Soccer WT advance
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Trinity had a beaut of a goal. She was the most aggressive of the forwards. I’m really disappointed they can’t find a way to get my girl Rose and also Horan involved more. IMO, the only way Horan really plays well is if she’s angry. Sounds crazy, but Somebody needs to slap her upside the head before every game to get her pissed!
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Nice win by US over Germany to advance to the gold medal game.
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Victory! nice. Two good teams battling. Germany had a great game plan being physical with the US. That’s where we need Horan to use her size and strength. I wish she’d assert herself more. Trinity was great. She’s really been aggressive so far. And i’ve been pleasantly surprised by Coffey’s play in the midfield. The US had lots of opportunity to put one in the back of the net. As the pundits would say, not very clinical today. But a win!
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Looks like the new coach is hired
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@BShark said in Generic soccer thread:
Looks like the new coach is hired
Oh yea? Busy day, haven’t looked. Who?
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Holy smokes! We got our man!
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I’m seeing Poch? Wow!
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I like it!
The Argentine boss employs a high pressing tactical style, employing a 4-2-3-1 formation which utilizes an intense counter-press that looks to win the ball back in dangerous areas, often at the sacrifice of the team’s defensive structure. However, Pochettino is known for his flexibility, and has a strong familiarity with the 4-3-3 that the U.S. often found itself in under Gregg Berhalter.
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@rockchalkjayhawk said in Generic soccer thread:
@BShark said in Generic soccer thread:
Looks like the new coach is hired
Oh yea? Busy day, haven’t looked. Who?
At the time I posted, I wasn’t 100% sure then it started to come out from more reliable reporters.
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@BShark said in Generic soccer thread:
@rockchalkjayhawk said in Generic soccer thread:
@BShark said in Generic soccer thread:
Looks like the new coach is hired
Oh yea? Busy day, haven’t looked. Who?
At the time I posted, I wasn’t 100% sure then it started to come out from more reliable reporters.
Still seems a “sources say” kinda deal.
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KU women won their first game of the season under new HC, both goals were scored by freshmen.
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@AsadZ Does KU not have a mens team because of title 9?
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@wissox said in Generic soccer thread:
@AsadZ Does KU not have a mens team because of title 9?
Basically. KU would have to add more women’s sports as well to support having a men’s soccer program to stay compliant with Title IX.
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@Texas-Hawk-10 From the perspective of the rest of the world, KU already has a men’s “football” team.
️Actually, they would not have to add an actual team in other women’s sports if they can show they offered the opportunity to women to play in other sports but could not draw enough participants to make it viable despite legitimate recruiting efforts.
Almost every school complies with the equal numbers test (which looks distorted due to college football teams having so many men), but there are two other ways schools can comply. One is the one I just referred to (it has been awhile, so my description is a rough summary), but I forget the third “safe harbor.” No one wants to go to the trouble of using tests 2 or 3.
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@mayjay said in Generic soccer thread:
@Texas-Hawk-10 From the perspective of the rest of the world, KU already has a men’s “football” team.
️Actually, they would not have to add an actual team in other women’s sports if they can show they offered the opportunity to women to play in other sports but could not draw enough participants to make it viable despite legitimate recruiting efforts.
Almost every school complies with the equal numbers test (which looks distorted due to college football teams having so many men), but there are two other ways schools can comply. One is the one I just referred to (it has been awhile, so my description is a rough summary), but I forget the third “safe harbor.” No one wants to go to the trouble of using tests 2 or 3.
Your first part wouldn’t fly in a federal investigation because there’s several women’s sports that KU could add that would absolutely have enough interest to become sustainable. Gymnastics would be the most likely program to add to balance adding a men’s soccer team.
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@Texas-Hawk-10 My point was that so many people blame Title 9 for not having additional men’s sports, or when cuts are made to men’s programs. Athletic departments pour gas on that fire by posturing as if they are required to even up the numbers rather than meeting the standards by adding programs for women.
As you say, KU could add new programs for women if they wanted to add men’s soccer. I was referring to the hypothetical situation IF no women wanted to join those programs. Trying to do it in good faith but not succeeding is a valid Title 9 defense to numerical disparities. As I said, no one uses that defense and just lops men’s programs on Title 9.
To be honest, your comment indicates the likely reason: schools are cutting men’s, and not adding women’s, programs because in all likelihood the sports would be successful participation-wise, and ADs don’t want the expense of carrying more non-revenue sports. The definition, really, of a zero-sum situation due to limited budgets. (I do hope Breaking, despite its apparent popularity, doesn’t become an NCAA sport, but the revenue possibilities might be intriguing. Recruiting trip reports might be fun: “No, we didn’t visit any dancers’ homes. We spent the entire trip in clubs.”)
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Ok, so Pulisic and Milan are on the TV this morning. Turned it on.
But, I’ll be turning it off lickety split! There is a constant police siren on in the background. I can’t take it! Is that normal for Italian football? Ear pollution so early in the a.m. for me. Grrr.
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@rockchalkjayhawk did you watch the match against Canada?
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@approxinfinity said in Generic soccer thread:
@rockchalkjayhawk did you watch the match against Canada?
Sadly I did. U?
I was watching pregame, and the pundits made some points I agreed with entirely. Motivation and effort. Entirely lacking at times in recent games, and as this game progressed. That used to be our calling card.
Take the first 20 minutes of the game as an example: FOUR guys were left wide open in the box on different plays. Where’s the personal motivation to stop the opposing team? I don’t get it.
Not a good effort. I know we had some different players out there, but still.
I hope this is the result of not having a coach!
