Generic soccer thread
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Both US and Mexico out in the group stage. Say whatever about Uruguay’s goal, the US never should’ve been in this position because they shouldn’t have lost to Panama. That Panama loss is up there with the loss to Trinidad and Tobago in 2018 WCQ. Berhalter isn’t the man for the job and needs to fired after this embarrassment of a performance.
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Well that didn’t go well. I’m all for it. Down with GGG. I hope by the time i wake up tomorrow he’ll be out the door. I wonder if he’ll actually resign.
Per the game…generally it was a nice effort vs a quality team. We had a few chances, but shit the bed in the box with a lack of composure, and skill.
Can GGG take Chris Richards with him to Malta or whatever country he’ll coach next? He lacks skill from what i’ve seen lately.
Speaking of skill, our midfield needs a revamp. I honestly like Adams and Weston, but they don’t contribute much on offense in a 4-3-3.
I’d like a new coach to explore a different formation if we stick with those two defensive-minded guys in the mid. They have skill in other areas. Play em on top of each other some how.
We couldn’t score, but otherwise a well played game. Kinda.
Geez, now for the production values on TV! Wow. Soooooo bad. I was about to think i was going crazy watching ants march on the field from a mile away, but then the broadcasters actually complained about it too. So weird. It got better as the game progressed. Who makes these decisions? I had the same complaint the other day with a Copa match. I wonder if these big stadiums in the US don’t have prime camera spots for soccer.
Sucks.
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Turkey just got done beating Austria in a downpour in Leipzig in the game of the Euro’s so far. Turkey’s goalie made the save of the year in the closing seconds off an Austrian header.
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Brazil fans packed the stadium for tonights game… Go Colombia!
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Maybe some of those yellow shirted fans were Colombian as well. nm. Good game.
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Hey, that Brazil game was one if the best so far.
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I’m laughing at the internet right now.
All the ridiculous stories listing absolutely unrealistic coaching candidates to take over for GGG include Pep Guardiola and Jurgen Klopp. c’mon, man!
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Spain and Germany has been painful to watch. 30 minutes in and already 3 yellows, an injury sub, and bunch of fouls. This game just has zero flow and rhythm to it because they can’t go more than a minute or two without a foul being committed.
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Going to be an interesting week for USMNT
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@approxinfinity said in Generic soccer thread:
Going to be an interesting week for USMNT
You think this week is Berhalter week? Or something else going on?
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@rockchalkjayhawk I think Berhalter gets the ax this week, yes.
We will see Jesse Marsch and Canada competing in a semifnal against Argentina Tuesday and I expect Berhalter will get the sack thereafter.
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@approxinfinity Are we generally considered to be inferior to Canada in soccer? I don’t follow super closely, especially considering I coach soccer. Did Canada make it there because of a favorable draw? I know we were considered favorites to move through the pool play but choked big time against inferior teams.
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@wissox we are supposed to own north america at this point. Canada is playing with house money atm. I think we were ranked 11th in the world before this tourney (which was unrealistically high) and I think Canada was in the 30s? prior
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There we go. https://www.espn.com/soccer/story/_/id/40480333/usa-coach-gregg-berhalter-fired-copa-america
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But I would like to pursue Pochettino, Chelsea did him dirty and he was building something.
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He gone. More time to BBQ poolside with Claudio Reyna?
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From The NY Times: Klopp says thanks but no thanks.
Jurgen Klopp has rebuffed an approach from the United States Soccer Federation (USSF) to take over as the men’s national team head coach following the dismissal of Gregg Berhalter.
Initial contact was made with Klopp regarding the possibility of leading the USMNT but he reiterated that he would like a break from football, according to sources privy to the matter. Despite that, interest remains, sources add, from US Soccer in making the 57-year-old their next head coach.
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I keep reading stories that put a strike against any coach without international experience. I don’t get it. Why does that matter? Coaching is coaching, right? What am I missing?
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@rockchalkjayhawk said in Generic soccer thread:
I keep reading stories that put a strike against any coach without international experience. I don’t get it. Why does that matter? Coaching is coaching, right? What am I missing?
International soccer is very different from club soccer in the way you manage teams. And with basically no real prep tournaments for the 2026 World Cup (Gold Cup is a very weak tournament), finding someone who can pull something out his ass the way Jesse Marsch did with Canada this Copa America tournament is going to determine how successful the US will be in the World Cup. The US has the talent to reach the quarterfinals of the World Cup, but consistently underachieves to their talent. If the US wants to take the next step, they need to pay what it takes to bring in a world class manager. If not, we’ll keep sweating out the group stages and bowing out in the first knockout stage games.
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Congrats to Germany… on doing a wonderful job hosting the Euros. Fields were pristine, refs were pretty good (except when they screwed Germany… at least they didnt screw a guest!
the matches had loads of drama and storylines, the theme song was well selected, and the closing ceremonies were beautiful.Fun watch.
Go Spain!
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Yup, amazing fields. Proper widths, too!
The one thing I didn’t quite get at the German stadiums … all the hand drawn signs hanging off the first row. I remember one stadium had signs of all the EPL teams crudely made? No biggie, but it sloppified the clean everything else.
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Must be a big party in Spain yesterday with Alcarez winning Wimbledon and football team winning Euros.
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That image of Messi bawling after limping off the pitch was striking.
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The coaching rumors are starting to heat up!
The latest big name: Mauricio Pochettino
Also these guys: LAFC’s Steve Cherundolo and Columbus Crew’s Wilfried Nancy. Jurgen Klopp, Herve Renard, and Patrick Vieira.
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Im all in on pochettino
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Me too i think. I’m all OUT on Vieira.
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Yeah vieira seems like a horrible choice.
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Meant to post this earlier…more bad luck for Tyler Adams. Out for an extended time after back surgery. Sucks all around. He may not be the long term answer at central mid. Hope he recovers and can play.
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Ha, Olympic women’s soccer news!
Two Canadian coaches sent home and the head coach suspended for drone spying on the New Zealand team!
Idiots.
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and the US team got trounced today. I didn’t realize there were so many recognizable names on the roster. Surprisingly the middle backs were Zimmerman and Robinson. Well, mostly surprised about Zimmerman. Let the young guys play!
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@rockchalkjayhawk dont you know, we only have 4 centerbacks in the United States? Ridiculous.
We played ok.
If this was an interview for Thierry Henry as usmnt coach, he passed!
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If i had to choose a French coach, i suppose i’d rather have Vieira. i dunno. pass on both?
I hear they are secretly cloning Walker Zimmerman. The new version should be ready soon!
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@rockchalkjayhawk I read that, can’t believe they thought they could get by with that!
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Nice dominant win yesterday for the US men in need of a win. Was hoping for the shutout for the point differential, but oh well.
The fun part about watching this team is learning more about guys I don’t know much about: Tolkin and McGlynn in particular. Wow does McGlynn have an amazing left foot shot! Tolkin is pretty exciting. Made lots of things happen.
On the flip side, I have a few complaints! I haven’t seen much of Tessman — but not a fan. IMO he just sucked. Nearly every time he passed the ball it was a turnover. Bad decision making. Stupid fouls with a yellow. He was bad, and seemed lethargic or nonchalant.
Paredes. Hmmm. Whining, flopping, weak play.
Fun game though.
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I didn’t get to watch the game against Guinea. Sounds like we played well and advanced. Nice!
It also sounds like Paredes had a helluva game. Hope that continues for sure!
And I must be the worst talent evaluator ever. One great soccer resource claims Tanner Tessman has been the best player on the pitch the last few games. Go figure.
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Good gravy. I’m only 38 minutes into the US-Morocco match, but I don’t even think the US has touched the ball yet!
Morocco’s on the front foot! Turn it around, boys!
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@rockchalkjayhawk Turn the match off and don’t finish it.
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Damn. Morocco looked the best team in the world today! wow. Sucks we lost, but they are fun to watch. creative, quick, pressing. nicely done.
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Saw this today. sounds like there’s some debate, but possible.
https://sbisoccer.com/2024/08/reports-pellegrino-matarazzo-offered-usmnt-head-coaching-job
The next U.S. men’s national team head coach could reportedly come from the German Bundesliga.
Pellegrino Matarazzo has reportedly been offered the position by U.S. Soccer, multiple reports confirmed Saturday. German outlet Kicker reported that Matarazzo is still undecided while Bild stated that he has already informed his current club Hoffenheim that he wants to leave for the position.
The news comes recently after Hoffenheim parted ways with sporting director Alexander Rosen.
The 46-year-old is currently on his third managerial position at club level with Hoffenheim. Matarazzo joined the Bundesliga club in February, taking over for the fired Andre Breitenreiter.
He has won 20 of his 52 matches in charge of Hoffenheim.
Prior to his move there Matarazzo managed Stuttgart from December 2019 to October 2022. He helped the club fight off relegation in Spring of 22′.
The New Jersey-born Matarazzo played collegiately at Columbia University before embarking to Germany in 2000.
Matarazzo would take over for Gregg Berhalter, who was relieved of his duties in July after the USMNT’s group stage exit from the Copa America.
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If you’re a geek like me…he likes a 3-5-2 formation. It can be defensive minded, with counter attacking as critical.
Relies heavily on wingbacks. Not a bad fit for the USA i’d say. We have Jedi and Dest who can fit that role. Maybe even Musah if they figure out his spot.
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@rockchalkjayhawk we only have 2 centerbacks in the entire country, so you might be right. Not sold on Dest at this point. I was high on him and then he seemed to mentally self destruct under the pressure.
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@approxinfinity said in Generic soccer thread:
@rockchalkjayhawk we only have 2 centerbacks in the entire country, so you might be right. Not sold on Dest at this point. I was high on him and then he seemed to mentally self destruct under the pressure.
So true about the CBs!!!
I’m with you on Dest. He was hyped up, but maybe needs a few more hours in the oven. he’s only 23, shockingly. Still time for his mental abilities to catch up to the physical.
Nature rarely allows this without drugs (ahem Lebron James), but i noticed in my early 30s while playing rec league soccer that my soccer brain and physical combo was at about its peak.
You just see the field way easier as you mature. Too bad the body doesn’t keep up!
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What a goal against Japan to get US Soccer WT advance
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Trinity had a beaut of a goal. She was the most aggressive of the forwards. I’m really disappointed they can’t find a way to get my girl Rose and also Horan involved more. IMO, the only way Horan really plays well is if she’s angry. Sounds crazy, but Somebody needs to slap her upside the head before every game to get her pissed!
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Nice win by US over Germany to advance to the gold medal game.
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Victory! nice. Two good teams battling. Germany had a great game plan being physical with the US. That’s where we need Horan to use her size and strength. I wish she’d assert herself more. Trinity was great. She’s really been aggressive so far. And i’ve been pleasantly surprised by Coffey’s play in the midfield. The US had lots of opportunity to put one in the back of the net. As the pundits would say, not very clinical today. But a win!
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Looks like the new coach is hired
