McCullah Situation
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@Gorilla72 ditto. Would like to know the drama
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So if you read Vern’s stuff or are in our discord, or have read this thread you have a general idea that McCullar has been good to go for awhile now. Swain said there were people in Kevin’s camp that wanted him to just shut it down for the year and move on to the draft. Bill had to convince him to finish the season.
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Hopefully not his parents. That would have been awkward last night if that was the case.
Honestly, shutting down is like playing not to lose… It means you’re not really playing and everyone knows it leads to losing. Isn’t Ben Simmons enough of a cautionary tale? I mean, yeah, he was highly drafted but that didn’t work out in the short or long-term… And plenty in the NBA must be aware and haven’t forgotten. I’m just speculating here, so if someone close to the league know how it really is, please illuminate me.
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@bskeet said in McCullah Situation:
Hopefully not his parents.
Swain didn’t say that, and I’m not saying anything. Someone that would leak information would say it’s the parents but that’s not me, I’m definitely not putting that out there. Nope not at all.
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It does seem like the kind of advice that would come from someone who is trying to protect the player and thinks the advice is in his best interest (but doesn’t fully appreciate how the system works). In other words, someone who is thinking with their heart and not their head.
Love.
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So about this…
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Welp dammit , that’s a wrap - -Kevin not available for the NCAA - well so much for that
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@BShark didn’t do any more damage but says the pain is too bad to go is about as close as self will get to calling a senior star player soft in public.
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@BShark said in McCullah Situation:
@TYOHawk said in McCullah Situation:
So about this…
SOFT AS HELL.
Bill’s quotes today were brutal.
This is as disappointed as I’ve been in a long time with a player. I’ve gotten on Juan and others pretty tough but they never quit…
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@TYOHawk I’m just ready for next season completely at this point.
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@BShark said in McCullah Situation:
@TYOHawk I’m just ready for next season completely at this point.
Just heard from the other guy I go to besides you for info…I truly can’t believe Kevin did this man…
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Wow. Im shocked.
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Well, I believe the subs will suck it up and play hard. The rest of the team won’t quit
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In the comments section of the “X” post, BJSports noted Self said Kevin “isn’t going to play”, not “can’t play”.
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Is he going to even make the trip West with the team???
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@DCHawker I saw him get off plane
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He’s definitely there for sure, it’s just sad all around. I think now we have almost no shot at getting to the sweet 16. The only reason he is even on a draft board is because we let him come back and develop. He did not impress a soul last season. I wouldn’t let him sit on the bench. Dude basically quit
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@kjayhawks said in McCullah Situation:
He’s definitely there for sure, it’s just sad all around. I think now we have almost no shot at getting to the sweet 16. The only reason he is even on a draft board is because we let him come back and develop. He did not impress a soul last season. I wouldn’t let him sit on the bench. Dude basically quit
He is not getting to play NBA - - MAYBE overseas – he is not getting drafted
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@jayballer67 said in McCullah Situation:
@kjayhawks said in McCullah Situation:
He’s definitely there for sure, it’s just sad all around. I think now we have almost no shot at getting to the sweet 16. The only reason he is even on a draft board is because we let him come back and develop. He did not impress a soul last season. I wouldn’t let him sit on the bench. Dude basically quit
He is not getting to play NBA - - MAYBE overseas – he is not getting drafted
McCullar is still projected a mid 1st round pick.
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I’m surprised.
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@Crimsonorblue22 said in McCullah Situation:
I’m surprised.
Me too. He makes a fantastic impression in person. Really carries himself in a way that this seems out of character. Makes you wonder what all is going on behind the scenes.
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Stuff like this makes me appreciate remy
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Last year, I always felt like the mental part was holding Kevins offensive game back. He would get down on himself too quickly and fixate on misses. Then he went Alpha Kevin as we hope to start the season and was averaging 20ppg. Then he got hurt and has struggled again offensively.
Maybe this isnt as out of character as we may think.
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@Texas-Hawk-10 said in McCullah Situation:
@jayballer67 said in McCullah Situation:
@kjayhawks said in McCullah Situation:
He’s definitely there for sure, it’s just sad all around. I think now we have almost no shot at getting to the sweet 16. The only reason he is even on a draft board is because we let him come back and develop. He did not impress a soul last season. I wouldn’t let him sit on the bench. Dude basically quit
He is not getting to play NBA - - MAYBE overseas – he is not getting drafted
McCullar is still projected a mid 1st round pick.
Not happening , he WILL not make it in the NBA. he wil be lucky to be drafted to many flaws inconsistent shooting , not strong enough rebounder at that level, seen way to many better players then him not make it in the NBA. - -Now question even his mental toughness. Only pro career playing time he will see is ove sea’s at that - -
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@approxinfinity said in McCullah Situation:
Last year, I always felt like the mental part was holding Kevins offensive game back. He would get down on himself too quickly and fixate on misses. Then he went Alpha Kevin as we hope to start the season and was averaging 20ppg. Then he got hurt and has struggled again offensively.
Maybe this isnt as out of character as we may think.
I think your onto something there. If you remember the last month and change as well the body language we saw from him at times when things didn’t go well.
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Well yeah but what does he know /s https://x.com/coachbillself/status/1770860164087734595?s=46
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Yea, feel sorry for Kevin. Has to be tough for him. Players wanna play. Onward.
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@FarmerJayhawk Had to feel like this statement was coming at some point.
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@FarmerJayhawk I also don’t think this statement is fully contradictory to what some have been saying that Self has been frustrated with the unclear timeline and we all know he’s been comfortable letting other guys play through injuries. It sucks all around. It sucks for Kevin, it sucks for Self, it sucks for the team, it sucks for the fans.
I just also refuse to believe Self would be so careless with his words multiple times directing the onus onto Kev for the uncertainty surrounding his availability. I’m sure Kevin wants to play. I’m sure his knee hurts. We aren’t owed ANY amount of pain from him as a player. But it sucks that this feels like the nail in the coffin for a lackluster men’s basketball season.
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@benshawks08 oh yeah I think that’s right. Bill is very frustrated and probably just let that get the best of him. I don’t have any doubt Kev isn’t healthy
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@FarmerJayhawk I think “isn’t healthy” is a blurry line between will play and CAN’T PLAY. And feels like he’s somewhere in that blur. Seems like “won’t play” is the only factual thing anyone can say.
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I’m disappointed but I don’t begrudge Kevin. He did a lot for this team and for the program the past two years.
The hardest part of this for me is the lingering “what if?” What if he was still playing? What would our record have been with him?
If Kevin wasn’t so good and so important, it simply wouldn’t hurt so much.
We would have missed Kevin at the conclusion of the season no matter what. But, the fact that he played his last game early is where the extra pain comes from.
Personally, I thank him for coming to KU and giving us some big wins and amazing memories.
