NFL Draft - 2023
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@AsadZ KSU de FAU.
great abbreviation given the end of bball season.
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Zay Flowers (wr) is in Texas working out with Mahomes for a pre-draft evaluation. He would be a fine addition, but itās unlikely heās available at pick 31. Smoke screen or real eval?
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Most analysts are predicting Panthers to select Bryce Young, however, Texans pick is a mystery. Logic says they should draft CJ Stroud but some folks think they may select on D.
I have also seen some reports suggesting Chiefs trading up in 21-22 range.
Letās see how things shake out tomorrow in KC.
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Yup, itās smoke screen season for NFL GMs. all sorts of crazy rumors out there.
Even one that the Chiefs move up for a running back. that would be odd.
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@AsadZ said in NFL Draft - 2023:
I have seen a few mock drafts showing KC going with KSU DE in rnd 1.
Looks some mock predictors know what theyāre doing
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How do folks see day 1.
I thought Texans were ultra-aggressive and made solid moves, any Texans fans here?
How about Eagles selecting two Defensive studs from Georgia, their D will be legit.
I was surprised to see UK QB did not get drafted in round 1, several analysts were predicting him to in top 5.
Another surprise was Jets not selecting OL to protect Rogers.
Finally, not draft, but Lamar saga came to an end, he got paid nicely.
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@AsadZ good summary!
I thought the Chargers going after another tall WR was funny.
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Most analysts are not giving good grades on Chiefs round 2 and 3 selections. Folks are saying that better WR options were available than Rashee.
I think Veatch took into consideration Mahomes input who had worked out with him in TX recently.
To be fair, no one knows how this draft class will pan out.
It will be interesting to read these comments again in Nov and Dec.
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@AsadZ Draft gurus all fell in love with the Tennessee receivers - Hyatt and Cedric Tillman, so they are going to blast the chiefs pick. They also rated the beast from OSU Dawand and Marylands tackle higher.
Rice I donāt know much about. He led fbs in receiving yards @112 per game. Supposed to be good at high pointing the ball (41ā vert was best at combine for receivers).
Dawand Jones is an Orlando brown type player and Veach has already tried that experiment. Huge, but slow. The tackle he selected (Wayna) has quick feet, but needs to work on both his footwork and hands and could anchor better. Heās played both LT and RT so good for a swing tackle if he doesnāt win the RT job outright.
I am cautiously optimistic.
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Kinda laughing at the Eagles drafting every Georgia player they can. Havenāt seen that strategy work before with āBama players, will it work with Bulldogs?
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Hoping Lonnie goes soon
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Veatch trading up and taking VA Tech DB in rnd 4, seems to be mainly for special teams, at least in year 1.
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@AsadZ That one has me scratching my head. Time will tell.
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Veach has had two straight really good draft before this one. Before those it was mixed at best. Lots of guess work in this line of work. I do like the athletic profile for the DB.
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Veatch liked his versatility, played multiple position - safety, nickel, outside.
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@AsadZ said in NFL Draft - 2023:
Veatch liked his versatility, played multiple position - safety, nickel, outside.
Definitely a Spags DB. Versatile like you said, big hands, good length, great jumper. Fast enough.
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Chiefs need to select a running back and I think one more OL for depth.
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I do think Veach gets cute with his picks at times. This year feels like that. But itās hard to do. As long as you have Mahomes youāll be competitive.
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@Kcmatt7 Iāve seen Mahomes break the laws of physics and levitate horizontally while tossing the pigskin in the Super Bowl. If that happened in Madden I wouldāve been pissed at the game engine for cheating.
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@Kcmatt7 said in NFL Draft - 2023:
I do think Veach gets cute with his picks at times. This year feels like that. But itās hard to do. As long as you have Mahomes youāll be competitive.
Yes and the Chiefs have already won two which is incredible. The Packers really laid out the blueprint for how to waste a franchise QB with Rodgers. Absolutely insane.
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Any word on what the Chiefs got from the cowboys for 6th round pick 1?
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@dylans 5th round pick in 2024 draft
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Chiefs have resigned RB McKinnon.
They have also signed former Bucs LT Donovan Smith, veteran LT. It seems that Chiefs are trying to add depth and competition in OL.
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Love love love that they locked up McKinnon.
And a new left tackle! Crazyily unexpected.
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How do folks see Chiefs season panning out?
I am thinking they go 13-4 with 14-3 a real possibility.
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@AsadZ UNDEFEATED!
Well, sure, I knowā¦but why the hell not? I mean, just think how much fun it would be to shut up both the 1972 and 2023 Dolphins in one fell swoop?
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@AsadZ I would say Chiefs win at least 11 with a healthy Pat. A great shot at starting 8-0.
They probably win 13 games, but itās still a tough schedule. Jets, Bills, Cincy, Chargers x2, Eagles and Dolphins are all going to be tough games.
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14-3. Patrick has never won less than 12 games.
6 50/50 games Iām guessing they win half of them.
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Ha, I had 17-0!
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Unlike last year Chiefs schedule is back end loaded this year.
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What do fans think about Hopkins?
He has been linked to Chiefs for some time.
Should Chiefs sign him?
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Iād love to have Hopkins.
They say heās not a great route runner, but who cares! He produces. May be a good match for Mahomesā escapability ability when the pockets breaks down.
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But, the potential drawback is what will it cost, and who weād have to ditch.
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@rockchalkjayhawk Yes, what is the cost and will it hinder progress of young WRs.
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Iām guessing heāll want obj money (15mil per year) or better. Would be hard to pull that off. A restructure of Mahomes contract is always possible - but not a good idea at this point. Chris Jones getting an extension could free up cap space too. The chiefs currently have 1.1mil with Rice left to sign - $700-850k in space effectively.
Iām thinking Frank Clark could very well end up back on the team.
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Clark signed with Saints.
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@AsadZ Do you know something no one else knows?
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@AsadZ I knew they were interested, has a deal been finalized?
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Bleacher Report indicated the Saints should sign Clark. Seattle and KC rumors too. I donāt see anything about having signed with any team.
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@AsadZ said in NFL Draft - 2023:
What do fans think about Hopkins?
He has been linked to Chiefs for some time.
Should Chiefs sign him?
Iām out on Hopkins. You donāt give 30-year old WRs expensive and long contracts. We just won the Superbowl with a pretty mediocre set of WRs. Roll with what youāve got.
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@Kcmatt7 said in NFL Draft - 2023:
@AsadZ said in NFL Draft - 2023:
What do fans think about Hopkins?
He has been linked to Chiefs for some time.
Should Chiefs sign him?
Iām out on Hopkins. You donāt give 30-year old WRs expensive and long contracts. We just won the Superbowl with a pretty mediocre set of WRs. Roll with what youāve got.
Yea, but this crew is even more mediocre than last yearās group. Iām with ya on the money aspect though.
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@rockchalkjayhawk I think Toney goes for 1200 yards this year if (admittedly a big if) he can stay healthy. If Toney is out for an extended period of time they could have some issues.
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@mayjay https://www.arrowheadpride.com/2023/6/1/23744104/arrowheadlines-signing-julio-jones-would-make-sense-for-the-chiefs
I had read in this story, perhaps it is not accurate.
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@AsadZ You missed the headline, apparently, so it looked like statement rather than the authorās idea of what NO should do. Happens a lot, partly because layout editing is soooo poor nowadays!
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Julio is done. Youāre better off giving those reps to the young guys.
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@Kcmatt7 said in NFL Draft - 2023:
@rockchalkjayhawk I think Toney goes for 1200 yards this year if (admittedly a big if) he can stay healthy. If Toney is out for an extended period of time they could have some issues.
Thatād be awesome if Toney could have that kind of production. heās a bit of a mystery, so fingers crossed.
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A bit late but Clarke going to Broncos.
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Indifferent about Clarke moving on. He had his moments.
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Clark was only good in the playoffs, but when youāre there every year thatās kinda important. Hope they can replace his post season production with in house talent. That guy from San Fran is intriguing
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@dylans said in NFL Draft - 2023:
Clark was only good in the playoffs, but when youāre there every year thatās kinda important. Hope they can replace his post season production with in house talent. That guy from San Fran is intriguing
Meh, the SF guy isnāt really intriguing to me. I watched most of his games for the last two years. Heās been āon the vergeā of a breakout season for like half a decade now. Heās a body. Seems durable. Throw in the domestic violence stuff and double meh.
