Let's talk Iowa St
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@KirkIsMyHinrich said in Let's talk Iowa St:
Alabama up 43 on LSU by the way. Hopefully ESPN pulls its head out of its ass next time and puts the right game on national tv
Alabama is TERRIFYING. They are right there with UConn, UCLA etc…
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Also KJ was 100% fouled on his basket that gave us the lead. But feel free to complain about the refs more ISU fans.
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Redic how that wasn’t called
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KJ’s winning bucket was gutsy. KJ shows me more and more each game. Where would this team be without KJ?
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@BShark said in Let's talk Iowa St:
@KirkIsMyHinrich said in Let's talk Iowa St:
Alabama up 43 on LSU by the way. Hopefully ESPN pulls its head out of its ass next time and puts the right game on national tv
Alabama is TERRIFYING. They are right there with UConn, UCLA etc…
Balanced and they are still getting better. Agreed. Brandon Miller is really good
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@stoptheflop said in Let's talk Iowa St:
KJ’s winning bucket was gutsy. KJ shows me more and more each game. Where would this team be without KJ?
Nowhere good!
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@KirkIsMyHinrich said in Let's talk Iowa St:
@BShark said in Let's talk Iowa St:
@KirkIsMyHinrich said in Let's talk Iowa St:
Alabama up 43 on LSU by the way. Hopefully ESPN pulls its head out of its ass next time and puts the right game on national tv
Alabama is TERRIFYING. They are right there with UConn, UCLA etc…
Balanced and they are still getting better. Agreed. Brandon Miller is really good
Some very respectable people had said “the best player I’ve ever scouted”.
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@BShark said in Let's talk Iowa St:
@KirkIsMyHinrich said in Let's talk Iowa St:
@BShark said in Let's talk Iowa St:
@KirkIsMyHinrich said in Let's talk Iowa St:
Alabama up 43 on LSU by the way. Hopefully ESPN pulls its head out of its ass next time and puts the right game on national tv
Alabama is TERRIFYING. They are right there with UConn, UCLA etc…
Balanced and they are still getting better. Agreed. Brandon Miller is really good
Some very respectable people had said “the best player I’ve ever scouted”.
He’s averaging 19 and 8 as a freshman. Looked like Kevin Durant against Gonzaga
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It’s lonely at the top…is what the rest of those losers keep telling themselves.
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@KirkIsMyHinrich He would be playing real minutes in the NBA right now if not for the current rules imo.
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Brandon Miller names top 8: Alabama, Florida, Kansas, Kentucky, Tennessee, Tennessee State, G League and NBL (Australia)
Sometimes the list really does tell you everything.
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In 19 minutes, Bobby took no shots, scored no pts, had one assist, one steal and one TO. Not nearly enough for the opportunity he was given. Bench players must contribute or they stay on the bench.
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Alabama, Connecticut, Houston, Kansas, Purdue, and UCLA are the legit contenders to me. Rick Barnes can’t make it past the weekend and that’s going back to his Texas days and I don’t trust Texas with their coaching situation. If they still had Beard, I’d call them legit as well.
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@Texas-Hawk-10 leave Purdue off that list and I think it’s solid.
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@stoptheflop bill’s blinders on this one. He’d say we play better defensively but we lose so much offensively when Bobby plays.
The small two guard lineup is not Frank/Graham vibes or even close so not sure the purpose
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@HawkChamp said in Let's talk Iowa St:
@Texas-Hawk-10 leave Purdue off that list and I think it’s solid.
Their offense is good enough this year to carry them to me. They’re pretty much the opposite of Houston.
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@kuballin10 said in Let's talk Iowa St:
@stoptheflop bill’s blinders on this one. He’d say we play better defensively but we lose so much offensively when Bobby plays.
The small two guard lineup is not Frank/Graham vibes or even close so not sure the purpose
Against elite defenses like ISU, the Harris, Pettiford, Yesufu lineup to me is about ball handling and minimizing turnovers.
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@Zabudda said in Let's talk Iowa St:
Who is our Bro or Sister on this thread who keeps track of our missed bunnies? Love it and keep it up please.
My bad, didn’t track em today.
Didn’t seem as bad today, but scoring was challenging.
I’d say free throws won the game for us today. ISU made more FGs than us, but KU made 6 more FTs. Had we shot better than 60% from the line, maybe it wouldn’t have come down to one possession.
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@stoptheflop said in Let's talk Iowa St:
In 19 minutes, Bobby took no shots, scored no pts, had one assist, one steal and one TO. Not nearly enough for the opportunity he was given. Bench players must contribute or they stay on the bench.
Not a good day for Bobby.
Only one official turnover? Seemed like he had way more.
And the MJ Rice saga continues. A healthy scratch. Hmmm. Wonder what he did this time? Disappointing.
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@Texas-Hawk-10 I thought we didn’t turn it over then when we went to that lineup we did.
It’s so bad offensively we hardly get any quality shots even though we don’t turn it over
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@kuballin10 said in Let's talk Iowa St:
@Texas-Hawk-10 I thought we didn’t turn it over then when we went to that lineup we did.
It’s so bad offensively we hardly get any quality shots even though we don’t turn it over
I’m not saying the 3 guard line up didn’t turn it over because there were some, I’m just saying that protecting the ball against ISU’s defense was likely Self’s logic in using that line up.
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Watching the players post game interview on Kusports, and about the 3 minute mark Gradey was talking about the defense and he says “yea we were just sucking the D” and then slaps the table, and laughing and looking at KJ and JWill, and then they all try to suppress their laughter, but have the giggles for awhile. Pretty funny. Great bunch of kids having fun out there. And with a real shot at repeating the NC which would just be unimaginably sweet.
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@kuballin10 said in Let's talk Iowa St:
@Texas-Hawk-10 I thought we didn’t turn it over then when we went to that lineup we did.
It’s so bad offensively we hardly get any quality shots even though we don’t turn it over
Who won?
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@rockchalkjayhawk said in Let's talk Iowa St:
@Zabudda said in Let's talk Iowa St:
Who is our Bro or Sister on this thread who keeps track of our missed bunnies? Love it and keep it up please.
My bad, didn’t track em today.
Didn’t seem as bad today, but scoring was challenging.
I’d say free throws won the game for us today. ISU made more FGs than us, but KU made 6 more FTs. Had we shot better than 60% from the line, maybe it wouldn’t have come down to one possession.
KU was 7/7 on layups in the first half. Don’t know about the second half.
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@Jethro bill will look at the tape and if his reasoning for that lineup was to take care of the ball hopefully he will see the did the opposite and gave up the lead in the first half
We keep eeking out these wins at home, I’m curious to see how we fair in legit road games. As Bill said of the 4-0 teams we by far have had the easiest schedule.
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@kuballin10 said in Let's talk Iowa St:
@Jethro bill will look at the tape and if his reasoning for that lineup was to take care of the ball hopefully he will see the did the opposite and gave up the lead in the first half
We keep eeking out these wins at home, I’m curious to see how we fair in legit road games. As Bill said of the 4-0 teams we by far have had the easiest schedule.
K-State got murdered on Saturday. Same with Missourah. What sorry programs they both have.
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@Jethro tough to win on the road… difficult stretch starts Tuesday
Anyone else notice TJ didn’t coach his team in timeouts? It was Green leading every huddle with tj standing back and listening….I found that odd because it happened all game not just a one off situation
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@kuballin10 said in Let's talk Iowa St:
@Jethro bill will look at the tape and if his reasoning for that lineup was to take care of the ball hopefully he will see the did the opposite and gave up the lead in the first half
We keep eeking out these wins at home, I’m curious to see how we fair in legit road games. As Bill said of the 4-0 teams we by far have had the easiest schedule.
I hate to be the Debbie Downer on peoples parade I love Ku just sa much as the next guy but I’m saying right now I truly believe we get beat Tuesday Night.
Like you said we have been eeking out wins to many one possession ball games , I worry that the guys thinking they can just turn it on anytime they want. - -We are getting into a routine of falling behind and then have to bust our ass to get back in it.
I love the fight and grit of the team but I just don’t feel we are playing solid enough steady enough and one of these times that kind of play is going to come back and bite us right square in the ass. I know some will disagree with what I say and that’s fine- -people are entitled to do so, just one persons opinion I just think it is set up perfect Tuesday - K/State playing really poorly , coming back home playing their big enemy - -KU /Rival - -the place is going to be ROCKIN/JUMPIN - and if they get on any kind of roll- - - - -I could be just as easily wrong to - -just feeling the way w are playing right now - -not terrible BUT not the best y far either - I just feel w are prime to get beat.
Plus on down the road if we don’t get some kind of production from the bench get that reliable 6th /7th man come tourney time we be screwed
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@jayballer67 I agree that place will be rocking for their super bowl. Good game for Kevin to get out of his funk and Juan to take it personal with Nowell.
Not sure what @Jethro’s deal is he’s adding as much to the board as cardboard with these takes. Somehow it’s personal with the “yours not so much” as if you don’t 100% believe we will win every game you aren’t a true fan.
At least come with a breakdown of what you @Jethro think will happen not some three sentence snarky comment; so irritated as if you made fun of your golden child
There’s people who discuss basketball and then there’s @Jethro
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@Jethro said in Let's talk Iowa St:
@jayballer67 said in Let's talk Iowa St:
@kuballin10 said in Let's talk Iowa St:
@Jethro bill will look at the tape and if his reasoning for that lineup was to take care of the ball hopefully he will see the did the opposite and gave up the lead in the first half
We keep eeking out these wins at home, I’m curious to see how we fair in legit road games. As Bill said of the 4-0 teams we by far have had the easiest schedule.
I hate to be the Debbie Downer on peoples parade I love Ku just sa much as the next guy but I’m saying right now I truly believe we get beat Tuesday Night.
Like you said we have been eeking out wins to many one possession ball games , I worry that the guys thinking they can just turn it on anytime they want. - -We are getting into a routine of falling behind and then have to bust our ass to get back in it.
I love the fight and grit of the team but I just don’t feel we are playing solid enough steady enough and one of these times that kind of play is going to come back and bite us right square in the ass. I know some will disagree with what I say and that’s fine- -people are entitled to do so, just one persons opinion I just think it is set up perfect Tuesday - K/State playing really poorly , coming back home playing their big enemy - -KU /Rival - -the place is going to be ROCKIN/JUMPIN - and if they get on any kind of roll- - - - -I could be just as easily wrong to - -just feeling the way w are playing right now - -not terrible BUT not the best y far either - I just feel w are prime to get beat.
Plus on down the road if we don’t get some kind of production from the bench get that reliable 6th /7th man come tourney time we be screwed
I like our chances-yours, not so much. We’ll see how you do when we lock up Nowell. Thanks for the concern, though.
you keep that positve thoughts there buddy -your not addressing how we are playing- what we gonna do when they lock down Dick ? - -Jalen is in a real shotting slump - -his % is continuing the downward spiral
@Jethro said in Let's talk Iowa St:
@jayballer67 said in Let's talk Iowa St:
@kuballin10 said in Let's talk Iowa St:
@Jethro bill will look at the tape and if his reasoning for that lineup was to take care of the ball hopefully he will see the did the opposite and gave up the lead in the first half
We keep eeking out these wins at home, I’m curious to see how we fair in legit road games. As Bill said of the 4-0 teams we by far have had the easiest schedule.
I hate to be the Debbie Downer on peoples parade I love Ku just sa much as the next guy but I’m saying right now I truly believe we get beat Tuesday Night.
Like you said we have been eeking out wins to many one possession ball games , I worry that the guys thinking they can just turn it on anytime they want. - -We are getting into a routine of falling behind and then have to bust our ass to get back in it.
I love the fight and grit of the team but I just don’t feel we are playing solid enough steady enough and one of these times that kind of play is going to come back and bite us right square in the ass. I know some will disagree with what I say and that’s fine- -people are entitled to do so, just one persons opinion I just think it is set up perfect Tuesday - K/State playing really poorly , coming back home playing their big enemy - -KU /Rival - -the place is going to be ROCKIN/JUMPIN - and if they get on any kind of roll- - - - -I could be just as easily wrong to - -just feeling the way w are playing right now - -not terrible BUT not the best y far either - I just feel w are prime to get beat.
Plus on down the road if we don’t get some kind of production from the bench get that reliable 6th /7th man come tourney time we be screwed
I like our chances-yours, not so much. We’ll see how you do when we lock up Nowell. Thanks for the concern, though. - -your welcome
One tiny problem though - -if Jalen continues shooting like he has these last 4 - 5 games - -they lock up Dick - -who’s gonna provide enough scoring for us ? - - NOT KEVIN - that leaves Juan? - -If Jalen doesn’t come out have a really solid game- - it looks bleak, - -we are just not playing that well and we not in the Phog - hope your right, and your welcome for the concern lmao
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@kuballin10 said in Let's talk Iowa St:
@jayballer67 I agree that place will be rocking for their super bowl. Good game for Kevin to get out of his funk and Juan to take it personal with Nowell.
Not sure what @Jethro’s deal is he’s adding as much to the board as cardboard with these takes. Somehow it’s personal with the “yours not so much” as if you don’t 100% believe we will win every game you aren’t a true fan.
At least come with a breakdown of what you @Jethro think will happen not some three sentence snarky comment; so irritated as if you made fun of your golden child
There’s people who discuss basketball and then there’s @Jethro
Oh I’m not gonna take what Jethro says personal, if I’m miss reading his comment and it is personal - -then so be it. My thing is I try to be a realist too, not live behind Crimson & Blue shaded glasses 100 % daily. - -I’ve been here long enough and have known Jethro from here from the get go - -it’s ok . Everyone is entitled to their opinion , doesn’t mean we have to agree.
All I know we are not playing solid ball - to many turnovers - -3 pt shooting not that great -Jalen not hitting shots like he was earlier in the /Season - - no bench. If we want to get anywhere in the tourney - -we have got to have a bench of some kind.
The part if he is and not saying that but if that were the case that I’m not true fan - -I promise you I’m as true a KU fan as anyone here. - Matter of fact for one when I was younger if ANYONE use to talk shade about KU with me - -we would bout come to blows - - I hated it let my temper get in way of logic. – If your not a true fan - -you sure the hell not gonna have KU tatoos- on your arm and Calf- -kinda hard to deny some says oh I see your tat you a fricken KU fan huh - -you say oh hell no can’t stand them why you say that lol.
I’ve been following KU forever been a fan for a long , long time since around 1960. - remember listening to games on the radio before they were on TV all the time - -sit at the kitchen table and listen. Had paper and pen so I would keep track of the KU players how many points they score - -how many fouls - -how many TO’s we had - -Rebounds we got - -every game - -I still do. - - I remember listening to the Game where JO JO hit the shot late in the game and they said his foot was out of bounds
I’ve been a fan since or before Pierre Russell - -JO JO White - - Danny Knight - -Walt Wesley , Aubrey Nash - -Roger Morningstar - -Bud Stalworth - -Dave Robisch, Kelly Knight - -Nino Samuel - -Clint Normore - - Tom Kivisto - - Ronnie Kellogg- — Calvin Pony Thompson - - Greg Dreiling to name just a few - -I remember use to going to KC for the Big 8 Christmas tournament in the old Municipal building - - I remember being in the hall and looking up and my 1st autograph or one of them looking up and thinking --Dam he is huge when I ask Roger Bonensthil spelt wrong sorry those were the days. - I remember being able to walk into Allen and pretty much picking your seat when we had down years with Coach Owens - -So really don’t think anything about it when or if people think I’m not a true fan lmao. - It’s ok - I just think we could be in real trouble Tuesday - -if they don’t think that fail to acknowledge that - then that’s on them. - - ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY
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@kuballin10 said in Let's talk Iowa St:
@jayballer67 I agree that place will be rocking for their super bowl. Good game for Kevin to get out of his funk and Juan to take it personal with Nowell.
Not sure what @Jethro’s deal is he’s adding as much to the board as cardboard with these takes. Somehow it’s personal with the “yours not so much” as if you don’t 100% believe we will win every game you aren’t a true fan.
At least come with a breakdown of what you @Jethro think will happen not some three sentence snarky comment; so irritated as if you made fun of your golden child
There’s people who discuss basketball and then there’s @Jethro
I don’t take your criticisms of our team, our coach, and our players seriously, Mr. Hat. I don’t take trolls seriously. Not this name, or the other names you use. I know we live inside your head rent free 100% of the time. Let’s make a deal- you keep complaining, and we’ll keep winning.
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@Jethro more of the same I’m not surprised (words without any substance).
I’m definitely not @jayballer67 so not sure why you responded negatively to him/her the way you did.
I’d get it if you respond that way to me but all you do is destroy the board when you can’t discuss the pro’s and con’s about the hawks.
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@jayballer67 don’t waste your time jethro can’t pontificate on basketball worth a 2 dollar bill.
Be careful your gonna get called a troll or mr hat because you are actually watching the games with two eyes rather than box score analyzing and saying “we won what is there to worry?”
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@jayballer67 My apologies, my friend. I was trying to respond to the troll, and I ended up responding to you on accident. I believe every caution you listed. But, I think K-State is much less adept at defense than an Iowa St. I don’t think they have the ability to stop us. I do think our plan is to pressure Nowell 94 feet. I think it will be tough, but I think we come out on top.
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@kuballin10 said in Let's talk Iowa St:
@jayballer67 don’t waste your time jethro can’t pontificate on basketball worth a 2 dollar bill.
Be careful your gonna get called a troll or mr hat because you are actually watching the games with two eyes rather than box score analyzing and saying “we won what is there to worry?”
Ahhh…it might have something to do with the fact we won the national championship last year, and we’re 27-1 in our last 28 games. Your Bill Self criticisms are arrogant and laughable. You’re only here to muck rake- we all know that, Mr. Hat.
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@Jethro said in Let's talk Iowa St:
@jayballer67 My apologies, my friend. I was trying to respond to the troll, and I ended up responding to you on accident. I believe every caution you listed. But, I think K-State is much less adept at defense than an Iowa St. I don’t think they have the ability to stop us. I do think our plan is to pressure Nowell 94 feet. I think it will be tough, but I think we come out on top.
No apologies bud needed. You and I have been on here to long and rea - -lly never had problems & like I stated every one is entitled to voice their opinions my friend.- -I have to agree with you a little bit more this morning as Beddie mentioned on KenPom and I posted on that - & your right. If I’m reading that dam KenPom chart right K/State is like ratted # 39 defensively & 38th Offensively, I hope I’m reading it right - - I’m not the brightest light in the house lol.
If that’s right that’s better then Iowa State 7th defensively - Doesn’t mean we can take the night off , we have just been playing ok/fair - -just good enough to pull it out. We need to come out strong /solid from the get go - -I think Juan and Nowell will be a really good matchup & wouldn’t surprise me in the least if Keevin matchs up on Johnson. – Another question is who they gonna match up on with Grady ?- - key element again is gonna be that piece of crap gym they have and their little closet fans who have come out from their decade absence since they have a decent team this year – when they go back to their traditional ways those closet fans will ONCE AGAIN vanish, put their 40 yr old K/State shirts away in the purple closet until the NEXT DECADE when they might have a decent team - - -ROCK CHALK
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@Jethro Talk about 100% rent free in someone’s head. Nothing better than derailing a thread where nothing was said to troll.
Please point out where I said “fire Bill”, “We are going 0-8 these next 8 games”.
The discussion was around the Harris, Joe, Bobby lineup that didn’t do what they were intended to do (not turn it over, execute the offense and get good shots).
TXHawk responded and clearly didn’t think I was “trolling”. Like I said when Bill goes back and watches the tape curious what he thinks about that lineup.
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My apologies- I shouldn’t have unblocked. They are blocked now. Now, let’s get back to KU BB!
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@Jethro said in Let's talk Iowa St:
My apologies- I shouldn’t have unblocked. They are blocked now. Now, let’s get back to KU BB!
Unblock not to talk basketball but derail threads….solid. Blocking the equivalent of a child’s maturity.
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Let’s not ruin this for the rest of us posters. They’re a few on here that block others. It’s a choice.
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@Crimsonorblue22 said in Let's talk Iowa St:
Let’s not ruin this for the rest of us posters. They’re a few on here that block others. It’s a choice.
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@Crimsonorblue22 100% a choice…a childish choice sure but you are right still a choice.
Jethro needs to know the definition of a troll because discussing the pro’s and con’s about a lineup isn’t trolling.
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@kuballin10 you can block him. Childish or not.
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Come on guys, no need for going for each other’s throat. We are all passionate about basketball and this is a great site to do that, no need for any hostilities. That’s one of the nice things about here compared to other sites - the others are always derailing threads with a bunch of stupid shit and personal attacks and it makes for a worthless read. Just my $.02
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KJ Adams is the Big 12 Player of the Week. He averaged 18.5 points and 6.0 rebounds per game this past week in
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Well deserved!
