Today's Games Thread
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@wissox You seem to ignore that the other shots were in the course of plays that started with more time left than Hill’s full-court pass to CL. I hate Leitner, but it was a turnaround shot from a location he seldom would shoot from (and with no time to set up), so I consider it much harder than any of the shots that started with the player facing the basket.
In addition, it is really the whole play that was amazing, which to me is more like how Sherron’s ball-handling and pass while falling helped make Mario’s shot more memorable than Smart’s.
All the shots were clutch, but I (despite holding my nose) have to award degree of difficulty points to the Dookies.
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@mayjay No, I can’t agree. I wouldn’t even hold my nose and agree. I wouldn’t even accept a 10,000$ agree with you fee and agree (ok, I might rethink that one). To me it was the fact that it was a shot to get to the Final Four. That’s all. Sure, there’s a different National Champion if Duke misses that shot, but I tend to believe it’s only a famous shot because of the sports media obsession with Duke.
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As much as the Laetner shot gotten hyped and replayed, I guess I’ve actually started to think it was the championship game.
Then there’s the best Duke miss in tournament history:
Anyway, nothing will ever beat NCState’s win over Phi Slamma Jamma
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@DanR Good catch, forgot about the NCState buzzer beater! Yes, definitely more epic than Christians shot.
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Looks like a former Jayhawk is going to the Final Four at least.
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@wissox Not so fast on that one although UH is who I’m pulling for at this point.
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UH’s offensive rebounding is the only reason why Houston isn’t down double digits right now.
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Houston going to their first Final Four since 1984.
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Well, I wanted a 12 seed to make it to FF for the first time ever. But congrats to Houston. They played well, and its amazing to see Grimes playing with such confidence.
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With Houston’s draw Kansas would have made the final four. There I said it. 1 seed difference. Upsets clearing the path.
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Guaranteed to have an old SWC match up in the Final Four which is crazy because the SWC was never known as a basketball conference.
The state of Texas also looking for only its second ever national title in college basketball.
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I’m not sure we beat that Syracuse team. We couldn’t have shot our way out of it.
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@Texas-Hawk-10 Yeah it seemed like OSU got some motivation by my comment!
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@benshawks08 Have you ever looked at our path in 1988? Upsets galore! Easier path, at least until the EE, FF, NC!
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Geographically Michigan is the furthest east team still alive. ESPN must be going crazy. Great year for the west. Since UCLA’s run ended in 1975 there have been only 5 west of the Mississippi champs, KU twice, UNLV, Arizona and Arkansas and UCLA. KU is the only team since Arizona in 1997 to win from the west. TTech almost added their name to the list. From the central time zone, KU, OK AM, Wisconsin, Loyola and KU are the only winners EVER. I like geography and worthless related trivia.
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Big 12 now has had 4 different teams represent the league in the last 5 tourneys’ final fours. Interestingly it’s those 5 years now that has twice seen us not win the league. @drgnslayr pointed out that a tough league should help KU.
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Dam Referee just Collasped during the Gonzaga game just flat went down. Hope he is ok
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I want Gonzaga to win. Both teams beat us, but SC trounced us in the tourney. Hope that they get their asses handed to them.
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southern Cal looking like grade School kids can’t hang onto the ball with a dam - -you can’t win if you can’t even control the ball - - Sloppy - -Sloppy defense
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So much for the idea that SC’s bigs were going to hold Gonzaga at bay underneath.
Bulldogs outrebounding the Trojans 21-14 at the half. Twice as many points in the paint…32-16.
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They just pass and pass and pass, until someone makes a shot. And they don’t slouch on D either.
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One step away from that long-delayed Gonzaga-Baylor matchup. Would love to see it.
Just two points shy of the over-under line of 153.
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Passing and passing by USC didn’t cut it. I thought Baylor looked like “bad ball Bill Self” on steroids last night in the second half. Guards never passed the ball to a big, ever, just drove to the basket for the last 15 minutes for layups or fouls. That might actually be the ticket to beating Gonzaga, plus playing tight perimeter D with Thamba in the middle to mess stuff up and Vital to hack at random. Hate to put any hope on a Scott Drew coached team though, so we’ll see.
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With ten minutes left on Thanksgiving Day we were behind the Zags by 1 point. It fell apart after that, but for 30 minutes we were as good as the best team in the nation. I really didn’t take too much from that game as a sign of where this team was headed. But after watching the team that destroyed us a week ago get destroyed tonight makes it seem we’re light years away. And yet, Baylor is a team we hung with before losing and then of course defeated. Strange KU season and if there’s no covid affecting Jalen possibly we finished the year on a higher note.
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@wissox said in Today's Games Thread:
With ten minutes left on Thanksgiving Day we were behind the Zags by 1 point. It fell apart after that, but for 30 minutes we were as good as the best team in the nation. I really didn’t take too much from that game as a sign of where this team was headed. But after watching the team that destroyed us a week ago get destroyed tonight makes it seem we’re light years away. And yet, Baylor is a team we hung with before losing and then of course defeated. Strange KU season and if there’s no covid affecting Jalen possibly we finished the year on a higher note.
I have some hope for this roster but with a PG or two that knows how to control the game and is able to score.
Should lead to better looks consistently.
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Pitiful end to the BIG season. Airball and a prayer that had no chance of being answered even by a very merciful and benevolent God.
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@wissox So your feed is at least 2 full minutes ahead of mine!
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Wow. I did NOT see that coming.
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And no teams east of the Mississippi are left.
The network suits must tearing out what’s left of their hair.
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@mayjay I’m sorry, it was a prediction actually that bad sequence spelled doom for the maize and blue.
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@wissox As I watched I was wondering which of the last second shots you were referring to!
So, I went to Michigan (for law school) and never cared about basketball there. Never went to a game. No feeling either when they won in 1989, nor last night when they got upset.
Also was accepted to UCLA, where I applied just because I thought it would be fun to be in LA and because of their bb history (last champ was while I was a junior at KU). I actually feel more allegiance to a school I never went to. Weird, huh? (Being a Bruins fan was seriously tested when Lonzo was there, however!)
Looking forward to the F4 because I can cheer for all the schools–well, Kelvin can go suck eggs, but I am happy to see Grimes succeeding.
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So you were at KU in the 90’s when obannon and UCLA won or were you referring to their last 70’s championship?
UCLA is strange. They feel like they should be right up there with the rest of us blue bloods but I guess they’re living proof that a strong program can lose favor with the young guys who don’t know their history. Recruiting guys to UCLA should be the easiest part of the job for a Bruin coach but it’s not anymore.
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Former Jayhawk Evan Manning is currently a Graduate Assistant for Mark Few at Gonzaga if anyone wants a reason to justify cheering for Gonzaga.
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I like UCLAs roster. Definitely underdogs. Definitely try hard. They might get smoked but theyre easy to root for.
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@wissox The 75 season was indeed my freshman spring at KU. I forgot Harrick’s title at UCLA–actually tuned out much of the world in the 90’s!
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Arizona taking it to UConn in the Women’s Final Four up 11 halfway through the 2nd quarter.
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Zona up 9 going into the 4th. Their defense has absolutely shut down Paige Bueckers and UConn tonight.
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Arizona pulls off a huge upset in the Women’s Final Four knocking off UConn 69-59. They will play Stanford on Sunday night for the national title.
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Ku recruited most of their roster
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Both games had huge blown calls in the last few minutes. I think they had more effect in the first game, but the second game’s refs should feel really crappy when they review the tapes.
“You mean I called a foul on someone who never was closer than a foot?”
“Yep. Enjoy next season in HS ball.”
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Baylor looking crisp early. - -Meyer quick 5 - -like - - - BAM quick
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Baylor RIGHT NOW representing well 22-11
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Baylor just WHUPPIN THAT ASS 33-17
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Grimes looks like ku grimes tight now. Tentative, slow, poor d
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Baylor looks like they want Gonzaga. Yeesh
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@bmensch1 said in Today's Games Thread:
Grimes looks like ku grimes tight now. Tentative, slow, poor d
All I been hearing Hearing Houston Defense- -Houston defense , ummm Baylor defense not to SHABBY, and just toying with them making look like kids against boys
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@KirkIsMyHinrich said in Today's Games Thread:
Baylor looks like they want Gonzaga. Yeesh
I’m still gonna stay in the minority I think Baylor gonna give Gonzaga fits
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@jayballer67 Houston defense is good when they’re not playing against superior athletes from the big 12, acc, or sec.
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@jayballer67 said in Today's Games Thread:
@KirkIsMyHinrich said in Today's Games Thread:
Baylor looks like they want Gonzaga. Yeesh
I’m still gonna stay in the minority I think Baylor gonna give Gonzaga fits
I don’t know. Gonzaga’s offense is otherworldly. Baylor has the speed to rotate defensively and two big bodies to throw at Drew Timme, but idk. I think Timme might eat Baylor alive. I would feel better if Baylor still had Freddie Gillespie. Also going to depend on how the game is called.
