2020 Transfer List
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@BeddieKU23 did you read his q and A? So weird
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@Crimsonorblue22 said in 2020 Transfer List:
@BeddieKU23 did you read his q and A? So weird
I can’t put myself to lose brain cells over it
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@BeddieKU23 said in 2020 Transfer List:
Oh Bruce lost another to the portal. Levi Stockard is leaving. Bruce down to 4 guys who even played last season.
OH – But - - - but - -but - -you forget they have such an outstanding recruiting class coming in. They gonna destroy the Big 12 next year, ask any K-State fan and they will tell you so lmao - - ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY
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@BeddieKU23 such a weirdo
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@jayballer73 I know plenty of KSU fans that are simply hoping not to finish dead last again.
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@BShark said in 2020 Transfer List:
@jayballer73 I know plenty of KSU fans that are simply hoping not to finish dead last again.
they better hope really hard. They were saying today that Mike McGurl is the ONLY one left off the team that won the Big 12 two years ago?
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They can hang a consecutive last place Banner. Would be fitting
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Weber is an okay enough coach. He’s not great, but not awful.
His problem is that he struggles in recruiting and retention. That has burned him time and again. He saved himself last time with Dean Wade and Barry Brown, but unless he does something similar this time, it will be tough to get out of the basement with the upgrades around the Big 12.
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@justanotherfan said in 2020 Transfer List:
Weber is an okay enough coach. He’s not great, but not awful.
His problem is that he struggles in recruiting and retention. That has burned him time and again. He saved himself last time with Dean Wade and Barry Brown, but unless he does something similar this time, it will be tough to get out of the basement with the upgrades around the Big 12.
His player evaluation is okay but it’s hard to replicate Dean Wade (underrated rural KS player that grew up a huge grape) and Barry Brown (sub 200 recruit that ended up playing at an all league level).
We like to bring up Graham and Mason but both were much more of known commodities than Brown. Anyone paying attention knew Graham was a baller and we had to beat out NC State and Virginia for him. Barry Brown didn’t have another P5 offer.
It’s a shame we were robbed of Wade’s final season. He was really good.
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Tyler Harris of Memphis transfers to Iowa St. Believe they were runner ups for him first time around.
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https://www.sports-reference.com/cbb/players/javon-freeman-1.html
Will be moving up a league/level no doubt.
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@BShark said in 2020 Transfer List:
https://www.sports-reference.com/cbb/players/javon-freeman-1.html
Will be moving up a league/level no doubt.
Wow he’s impressive. Heck of an athlete at 6’3 and defender. Shoots similar to Marcus…Would trade for Jossell anyday
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Tray Jackson ended up at Seton Hall
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@BeddieKU23 said in 2020 Transfer List:
@BShark said in 2020 Transfer List:
https://www.sports-reference.com/cbb/players/javon-freeman-1.html
Will be moving up a league/level no doubt.
Wow he’s impressive. Heck of an athlete at 6’3 and defender. Shoots similar to Marcus…Would trade for Jossell anyday
Could not do it fast enough tbh but Self won’t.
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@BShark said in 2020 Transfer List:
@BeddieKU23 said in 2020 Transfer List:
@BShark said in 2020 Transfer List:
https://www.sports-reference.com/cbb/players/javon-freeman-1.html
Will be moving up a league/level no doubt.
Wow he’s impressive. Heck of an athlete at 6’3 and defender. Shoots similar to Marcus…Would trade for Jossell anyday
Could not do it fast enough tbh but Self won’t.
sam on the athletic thinks he’s a draft prospect.
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WANT. Even if he has to sit we need to replace Marcus in 21-22. You’d like to have a non-Harris option, or you could start all 3 of Harris, F-L, and Bryce. Or play Bryce at point and start Braun at the 3.
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@FarmerJayhawk said in 2020 Transfer List:
WANT. Even if he has to sit we need to replace Marcus in 21-22. You’d like to have a non-Harris option, or you could start all 3 of Harris, F-L, and Bryce. Or play Bryce at point and start Braun at the 3.
Boom
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Damn, Texas Tech landed VCU leading scorer Marcus Santos-Silva. That’s a game changer for them…
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Gonna laugh when Texas finishes in the middle of the league again.
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@BeddieKU23 I saw that. Beard is smart, knows that he can coach, going the transfer route until - and it is only a matter of time - he can consistently recruit with the big boys. As long as Beard is around Tech is going to be our most heated Big12 rival.
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His 2020 class of HS recruits is arguably his best. 1 five star and 2 4 star recruits. All to a place in Texas that’s in the middle of no where. I think he’s recruiting at a high level
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@FarmerJayhawk said in 2020 Transfer List:
WANT. Even if he has to sit we need to replace Marcus in 21-22. You’d like to have a non-Harris option, or you could start all 3 of Harris, F-L, and Bryce. Or play Bryce at point and start Braun at the 3.
I don’t think Self is going to completely rule out Braun being the successor to Garrett at PG. Braun ran some point last season and will probably be Garrett’s primary back up this season.
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@BeddieKU23 said in 2020 Transfer List:
Damn, Texas Tech landed VCU leading scorer Marcus Santos-Silva. That’s a game changer for them…
Texas Tech is becoming a real pain in the you know where. Bead getting some really solid players.
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@Texas-Hawk-10 said in 2020 Transfer List:
I don’t think Self is going to completely rule out Braun being the successor to Garrett at PG. Braun ran some point last season and will probably be Garrett’s primary back up this season.
Braun has a long way to go to run the point. He looked scared to handle under pressure at times.
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Part of that was he wasn’t practicing to be the backup PG. Threw him into it out of necessity when injuries occured
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Yikes. Attrition at Wake Forest already commencing. A few weeks back they were over scholarships then Chaundee Brown left. Now with Manning gone they have 9 bodies right now after their best player Oliver Sarr- 7 footer who averaged 13 & 9 last season has decided to transfer. According to him Manning convinced him to come back for his Sr year without testing the NBA draft and now his coach is fired and he’s missed the deadline for entering the Draft…
In Sarr’s words
I wanted to test the [NBA draft] waters," Sarr told ESPN on Thursday night. “I requested the UAC [Undergraduate Advisory Committee]. I tried to test the waters, then I had a conversation with Coach and he convinced me to stay and get my degree. He had plans for me, I was going to do great things in the ACC, with the team and individually, of course. It was late April, Coach was going to stay. Then, 24-48 hours before the [draft] deadline, Coach got fired. I didn’t get the chance to put my name in and change my mind.”
“It’s actually a tough decision,” Sarr said. “I want to give Wake Forest a chance and listen to what he has to say. I’m entering the transfer portal because I want to listen to all the options. I want to be able to pick my own coach, not have one chosen for me.”
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Interesting…
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@BeddieKU23 said in 2020 Transfer List:
Yikes. Attrition at Wake Forest already commencing. A few weeks back they were over scholarships then Chaundee Brown left. Now with Manning gone they have 9 bodies right now after their best player Oliver Sarr- 7 footer who averaged 13 & 9 last season has decided to transfer. According to him Manning convinced him to come back for his Sr year without testing the NBA draft and now his coach is fired and he’s missed the deadline for entering the Draft…
In Sarr’s words
I wanted to test the [NBA draft] waters," Sarr told ESPN on Thursday night. “I requested the UAC [Undergraduate Advisory Committee]. I tried to test the waters, then I had a conversation with Coach and he convinced me to stay and get my degree. He had plans for me, I was going to do great things in the ACC, with the team and individually, of course. It was late April, Coach was going to stay. Then, 24-48 hours before the [draft] deadline, Coach got fired. I didn’t get the chance to put my name in and change my mind.”
“It’s actually a tough decision,” Sarr said. “I want to give Wake Forest a chance and listen to what he has to say. I’m entering the transfer portal because I want to listen to all the options. I want to be able to pick my own coach, not have one chosen for me.”
Boy that’s kind of messed up for the kid. - - just a typical case for the kid. Kind of falls in line with when a kid is being recruited to come to a school as a Freshman he commits cause he wants to play for that Coach and then - - he get’s fired after the kid has committed or the Coach leaves and the kid is like - - -Wait ? - - -What?
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@jayballer73 said in 2020 Transfer List:
@BeddieKU23 said in 2020 Transfer List:
Yikes. Attrition at Wake Forest already commencing. A few weeks back they were over scholarships then Chaundee Brown left. Now with Manning gone they have 9 bodies right now after their best player Oliver Sarr- 7 footer who averaged 13 & 9 last season has decided to transfer. According to him Manning convinced him to come back for his Sr year without testing the NBA draft and now his coach is fired and he’s missed the deadline for entering the Draft…
In Sarr’s words
I wanted to test the [NBA draft] waters," Sarr told ESPN on Thursday night. “I requested the UAC [Undergraduate Advisory Committee]. I tried to test the waters, then I had a conversation with Coach and he convinced me to stay and get my degree. He had plans for me, I was going to do great things in the ACC, with the team and individually, of course. It was late April, Coach was going to stay. Then, 24-48 hours before the [draft] deadline, Coach got fired. I didn’t get the chance to put my name in and change my mind.”
“It’s actually a tough decision,” Sarr said. “I want to give Wake Forest a chance and listen to what he has to say. I’m entering the transfer portal because I want to listen to all the options. I want to be able to pick my own coach, not have one chosen for me.”
Boy that’s kind of messed up for the kid. - - just a typical case for the kid. Kind of falls in line with when a kid is being recruited to come to a school as a Freshman he commits cause he wants to play for that Coach and then - - he get’s fired after the kid has committed or the Coach leaves and the kid is like - - -Wait ? - - -What?
I’m with you, which is why I like the new and softened transfer rules. Coaches can bolt without notice (though still on contract), and the players are like, “…what?” If a player is unhappy at a school, I say bon voyage.
Case in point, Grimes. I didn’t like him at KU, and was glad that he left. For a multitude of reasons he did not fit in. It worked out well for everyone concerned that he chose to transfer.
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@BShark said in 2020 Transfer List:
https://www.sports-reference.com/cbb/players/javon-freeman-1.html
Will be moving up a league/level no doubt.
DePaul
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Terrible spot to move up
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@BeddieKU23 said in 2020 Transfer List:
Terrible spot to move up
For sure. I believe there’s a family issue which led him to stay close to home.
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@BShark Is that really a surprise at this point lol
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Whitney Young H.S. produces some topnotch talent, Chicago in general does. I’m of the opinion that given the right coach it would be possible to win a NC by just recruiting Chicago players. Was Ray Meyer still the coach when DePaul had Dallas Comegys? They haven’t been relevant for a very long while.
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Whitney Young H.S. produces some topnotch talent, Chicago in general does. I’m of the opinion that given the right coach it would be possible to win a NC by just recruiting Chicago players. Was Ray Meyer still the coach when DePaul had Dallas Comegys? They haven’t been relevant for a very long while.
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Whitney Young H.S. produces some topnotch talent, Chicago in general does. I’m of the opinion that given the right coach it would be possible to win a NC by just recruiting Chicago players. Was Ray Meyer still the coach when DePaul had Dallas Comegys? They haven’t been relevant for a very long while.
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Whitney Young H.S. produces some topnotch talent, Chicago in general does. I’m of the opinion that given the right coach it would be possible to win a NC by just successfully recruiting Chicago players. Was Ray Meyer still the coach when DePaul had Dallas Comegys? They haven’t been relevant for a very long while.
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Who is the top recruit in Chicago in this class?
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I’m kind of a broken record but if we have a spot the Sarr kid from Wake is really intriguing. Watched him a lot in the ACC and he can really play. Gained like 30 pounds before last season and went nuts.
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@BeddieKU23 said in 2020 Transfer List:
Yikes. Attrition at Wake Forest already commencing. A few weeks back they were over scholarships then Chaundee Brown left. Now with Manning gone they have 9 bodies right now after their best player Oliver Sarr- 7 footer who averaged 13 & 9 last season has decided to transfer. According to him Manning convinced him to come back for his Sr year without testing the NBA draft and now his coach is fired and he’s missed the deadline for entering the Draft…
In Sarr’s words
I wanted to test the [NBA draft] waters," Sarr told ESPN on Thursday night. “I requested the UAC [Undergraduate Advisory Committee]. I tried to test the waters, then I had a conversation with Coach and he convinced me to stay and get my degree. He had plans for me, I was going to do great things in the ACC, with the team and individually, of course. It was late April, Coach was going to stay. Then, 24-48 hours before the [draft] deadline, Coach got fired. I didn’t get the chance to put my name in and change my mind.”
“It’s actually a tough decision,” Sarr said. “I want to give Wake Forest a chance and listen to what he has to say. I’m entering the transfer portal because I want to listen to all the options. I want to be able to pick my own coach, not have one chosen for me.”
Not a big fan of how Danny handled that situation. With the rules set up the way they are currently, there’s no harm in letting a kid declare and go through the process and get some feedback from scouts what he needed to work on to be successful at the next level because the kid can still withdraw and come back to school after getting the feedback. L
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@FarmerJayhawk said in 2020 Transfer List:
I’m kind of a broken record but if we have a spot the Sarr kid from Wake is really intriguing. Watched him a lot in the ACC and he can really play. Gained like 30 pounds before last season and went nuts.
Sarr is a nice player, probably best big man to hit the market so far, but I wouldn’t even look at him. He’s not better than McCormack, so Sarr would never start at KU barring injury. Then the next issue would be making room for Sarr on the roster which would mean forcing someone else on the roster to transfer to make room. Jossell, Muscadin, or Silvio would be the options there and none of those would be a smart long term option. As hard as Self fought to get Silvio eligibility, it would be a terrible PR look to recruits to pick one year of Sarr over one year of Silvio. Muscadin is the future 5 so it doesn’t make a lot of sense to me to force Muscadin out for essentially a one year rental and have to try and find another 5 to replace McCormack with unknown sanctions looming.
The most interesting possibility is Latrell Jossell though. Sarr is a better player than Jossell, no argument there. KU is already thin for the future after this season at the 1-2 spots behind Garrett. Jossell is definitely a long term project and if KU were to decide to look elsewhere, it doesn’t make sense to do so with someone whose ceiling at KU is a back up 5.
Like I said, Sarr is the best post player to hit market so far IMO, but KU doesn’t need him and bringing him would do long term damage to the roster with what KU would have to do to bring him him.
Sarr is someone I see Kentucky making a very strong move in trying to bring in as hard as they went after Haarms.
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@Texas-Hawk-10 said in 2020 Transfer List:
@FarmerJayhawk said in 2020 Transfer List:
I’m kind of a broken record but if we have a spot the Sarr kid from Wake is really intriguing. Watched him a lot in the ACC and he can really play. Gained like 30 pounds before last season and went nuts.
Sarr is a nice player, probably best big man to hit the market so far, but I wouldn’t even look at him. He’s not better than McCormack, so Sarr would never start at KU barring injury. Then the next issue would be making room for Sarr on the roster which would mean forcing someone else on the roster to transfer to make room. Jossell, Muscadin, or Silvio would be the options there and none of those would be a smart long term option. As hard as Self fought to get Silvio eligibility, it would be a terrible PR look to recruits to pick one year of Sarr over one year of Silvio. Muscadin is the future 5 so it doesn’t make a lot of sense to me to force Muscadin out for essentially a one year rental and have to try and find another 5 to replace McCormack with unknown sanctions looming.
The most interesting possibility is Latrell Jossell though. Sarr is a better player than Jossell, no argument there. KU is already thin for the future after this season at the 1-2 spots behind Garrett. Jossell is definitely a long term project and if KU were to decide to look elsewhere, it doesn’t make sense to do so with someone whose ceiling at KU is a back up 5.
Like I said, Sarr is the best post player to hit market so far IMO, but KU doesn’t need him and bringing him would do long term damage to the roster with what KU would have to do to bring him him.
Sarr is someone I see Kentucky making a very strong move in trying to bring in as hard as they went after Haarms.
That’s why I said if there was a spot, saying boot someone to make room.
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@FarmerJayhawk I was thinking the same thing. Is he a soph, senior, what (I’m being lazy)?
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@Texas-Hawk-10 said in 2020 Transfer List:
@FarmerJayhawk said in 2020 Transfer List:
I’m kind of a broken record but if we have a spot the Sarr kid from Wake is really intriguing. Watched him a lot in the ACC and he can really play. Gained like 30 pounds before last season and went nuts.
Sarr is a nice player, probably best big man to hit the market so far, but I wouldn’t even look at him. He’s not better than McCormack, so Sarr would never start at KU barring injury. Then the next issue would be making room for Sarr on the roster which would mean forcing someone else on the roster to transfer to make room. Jossell, Muscadin, or Silvio would be the options there and none of those would be a smart long term option. As hard as Self fought to get Silvio eligibility, it would be a terrible PR look to recruits to pick one year of Sarr over one year of Silvio. Muscadin is the future 5 so it doesn’t make a lot of sense to me to force Muscadin out for essentially a one year rental and have to try and find another 5 to replace McCormack with unknown sanctions looming.
The most interesting possibility is Latrell Jossell though. Sarr is a better player than Jossell, no argument there. KU is already thin for the future after this season at the 1-2 spots behind Garrett. Jossell is definitely a long term project and if KU were to decide to look elsewhere, it doesn’t make sense to do so with someone whose ceiling at KU is a back up 5.
Like I said, Sarr is the best post player to hit market so far IMO, but KU doesn’t need him and bringing him would do long term damage to the roster with what KU would have to do to bring him him.
Sarr is someone I see Kentucky making a very strong move in trying to bring in as hard as they went after Haarms.
That being said, if someone had to go I would choose Silvio, he’s a bust - mark it. Jossell’s 3 point shooting intrigues me. Let’s not act like we’re holier than thou, coaches can bolt without a minutes notice, as too can now players. If a player does not fit in, it is best for that player to go elsewhere. Silvio’s head is not in the game, and KU is not a psychologist.
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@Marco said in 2020 Transfer List:
@Texas-Hawk-10 said in 2020 Transfer List:
@FarmerJayhawk said in 2020 Transfer List:
I’m kind of a broken record but if we have a spot the Sarr kid from Wake is really intriguing. Watched him a lot in the ACC and he can really play. Gained like 30 pounds before last season and went nuts.
Sarr is a nice player, probably best big man to hit the market so far, but I wouldn’t even look at him. He’s not better than McCormack, so Sarr would never start at KU barring injury. Then the next issue would be making room for Sarr on the roster which would mean forcing someone else on the roster to transfer to make room. Jossell, Muscadin, or Silvio would be the options there and none of those would be a smart long term option. As hard as Self fought to get Silvio eligibility, it would be a terrible PR look to recruits to pick one year of Sarr over one year of Silvio. Muscadin is the future 5 so it doesn’t make a lot of sense to me to force Muscadin out for essentially a one year rental and have to try and find another 5 to replace McCormack with unknown sanctions looming.
The most interesting possibility is Latrell Jossell though. Sarr is a better player than Jossell, no argument there. KU is already thin for the future after this season at the 1-2 spots behind Garrett. Jossell is definitely a long term project and if KU were to decide to look elsewhere, it doesn’t make sense to do so with someone whose ceiling at KU is a back up 5.
Like I said, Sarr is the best post player to hit market so far IMO, but KU doesn’t need him and bringing him would do long term damage to the roster with what KU would have to do to bring him him.
Sarr is someone I see Kentucky making a very strong move in trying to bring in as hard as they went after Haarms.
That being said, if someone had to go I would choose Silvio, he’s a bust - mark it. Jossell’s 3 point shooting intrigues me. Let’s not act like we’re holier than thou, coaches can bolt without a minutes notice, as too can now players. If a player does not fit in, it is best for that player to go elsewhere. Silvio’s head is not in the game, and KU is not a psychologist.
Sarr would have to sit a year I believe, and then would be a senior when he’s eligible so you only get Sarr for one year. That’s the key with why KU won’t look at him. He wouldn’t be at KU beyond McCormack to be the bridge from Dave to Gethro. He’s also too good of a player to be a back up at KU, but he’s also not better than McCormack so he would be a back up here. Silvio fits that back up role better.
I don’t understand what you mean by Silvio’s head isn’t in the game because what I saw when he came back last season was someone who was still playing too fast because the game hasn’t slowed down for him yet because he’s still only played about 350 minutes of basketball in 3 years now. That’s not his head not being in the game, that’s lack of experience which I said before the season was going to be his issue and I don’t remember how many people tried calling BS on that one, I do you were one of them however. If Silvio’s head wasn’t in the game, Self would’ve booted him from the team after the KSU incident. That incident is exactly the opposite of his head not being in the game, that’s a case of him being too involved and letting his emotions get the best of him in the heat of the moment. That shows passion, not disinterest.
The other thing with Silvio is that he’s athletic enough that if the light comes on for him, which it will if he gets 12-15 mpg, he’s athletic enough to play the 4 and guard on the perimeter so he could play next to Dave if the light comes on.
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@FarmerJayhawk said in 2020 Transfer List:
I’m kind of a broken record but if we have a spot the Sarr kid from Wake is really intriguing. Watched him a lot in the ACC and he can really play. Gained like 30 pounds before last season and went nuts.
He was awesome in some games last yr. Agree would take in a heartbeat
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Big blow for Arizona St as Romello White transfers. Averaged 10 & 8 & 1 blk per game last season
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@BeddieKU23 said in 2020 Transfer List:
Big blow for Arizona St as Romello White transfers. Averaged 10 & 8 & 1 blk per game last season
Hard to believe this would happen considering how many decommits he had. Lol.
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@Texas-Hawk-10 said in 2020 Transfer List:
@Marco said in 2020 Transfer List:
@Texas-Hawk-10 said in 2020 Transfer List:
@FarmerJayhawk said in 2020 Transfer List:
I’m kind of a broken record but if we have a spot the Sarr kid from Wake is really intriguing. Watched him a lot in the ACC and he can really play. Gained like 30 pounds before last season and went nuts.
Sarr is a nice player, probably best big man to hit the market so far, but I wouldn’t even look at him. He’s not better than McCormack, so Sarr would never start at KU barring injury. Then the next issue would be making room for Sarr on the roster which would mean forcing someone else on the roster to transfer to make room. Jossell, Muscadin, or Silvio would be the options there and none of those would be a smart long term option. As hard as Self fought to get Silvio eligibility, it would be a terrible PR look to recruits to pick one year of Sarr over one year of Silvio. Muscadin is the future 5 so it doesn’t make a lot of sense to me to force Muscadin out for essentially a one year rental and have to try and find another 5 to replace McCormack with unknown sanctions looming.
The most interesting possibility is Latrell Jossell though. Sarr is a better player than Jossell, no argument there. KU is already thin for the future after this season at the 1-2 spots behind Garrett. Jossell is definitely a long term project and if KU were to decide to look elsewhere, it doesn’t make sense to do so with someone whose ceiling at KU is a back up 5.
Like I said, Sarr is the best post player to hit market so far IMO, but KU doesn’t need him and bringing him would do long term damage to the roster with what KU would have to do to bring him him.
Sarr is someone I see Kentucky making a very strong move in trying to bring in as hard as they went after Haarms.
That being said, if someone had to go I would choose Silvio, he’s a bust - mark it. Jossell’s 3 point shooting intrigues me. Let’s not act like we’re holier than thou, coaches can bolt without a minutes notice, as too can now players. If a player does not fit in, it is best for that player to go elsewhere. Silvio’s head is not in the game, and KU is not a psychologist.
Sarr would have to sit a year I believe, and then would be a senior when he’s eligible so you only get Sarr for one year. That’s the key with why KU won’t look at him. He wouldn’t be at KU beyond McCormack to be the bridge from Dave to Gethro. He’s also too good of a player to be a back up at KU, but he’s also not better than McCormack so he would be a back up here. Silvio fits that back up role better.
I don’t understand what you mean by Silvio’s head isn’t in the game because what I saw when he came back last season was someone who was still playing too fast because the game hasn’t slowed down for him yet because he’s still only played about 350 minutes of basketball in 3 years now. That’s not his head not being in the game, that’s lack of experience which I said before the season was going to be his issue and I don’t remember how many people tried calling BS on that one, I do you were one of them however. If Silvio’s head wasn’t in the game, Self would’ve booted him from the team after the KSU incident. That incident is exactly the opposite of his head not being in the game, that’s a case of him being too involved and letting his emotions get the best of him in the heat of the moment. That shows passion, not disinterest.
The other thing with Silvio is that he’s athletic enough that if the light comes on for him, which it will if he gets 12-15 mpg, he’s athletic enough to play the 4 and guard on the perimeter so he could play next to Dave if the light comes on.
I hope you’re right, @FarmerJayhawk!
