The '19-'20 Season and Beyond (previously titled To Infinity and Beyond)
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wissox said:
@Marco Good stuff, but you’ve got to discover the joy of writing in paragraphs!
Lol! I am more than capable of writing paragraphs.
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@BeddieKU23 I read that completely wrong, I appologize! Yeah it seems that Cory, as of lately, seems to just pull words out of his you know what just to feel important and all knowing.
I just get all excited when I read anything KU.
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If Garrett could get to Russell Robinson territory in shooting, that would do wonders for him and the offense. Robinson was never a great shooter, low 30% most of his career, but he made plays for other players.
That’s the style of PG Garrett would be. Playing at a slower pace like @HighEliteMajor mentioned wouldn’t be a bad thing for Doke. Doke’s cardio has never been great and a slower tempo would help him out a lot.
A line up of Garrett, Agbaji, Silvio, and Doke along with whoever at the 2/3 spot would be the best defensive line up KU has had in a long time. That would be a long defense with a pair of above average rim protectors in the back. That’s a defensive line up in which a lot of teams would struggle to reach 65 points and would cover up Garrett’s lack of offense.
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@Texas-Hawk-10 @KUSTEVE You both may be on to something here … the ground and pound offense, win 59-55. Tough, hard nosed defense. Feed the post. And feed it again. And just in case you weren’t sure, feed it one more time. Just up Bill Self’s alley. The kind of offense that inspired “Fool’s Gold” lectures. Only this time, it’s a necessity. Where’s the post-feeder extraordinaire when you need him (B-Star)?
Just … gotta … guard … the … three … point … line. Gotta find a way.
If Wilson comes (and I know I’m an isolated voice on this), that could set up a nice 3-2 zone. Long out top. It’s a great way to guard the three point line. And you’ll have Doke, SDS, Dave and the best shot blocker in all of mankind, Mitch, manning the back line. But silly me thinking zone is an answer if you get a gunning team like Auburn that you can’t keep up with. It also allows us to play the offense we want to plan, with two bigs.
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@HighEliteMajor We’re going to make Virginia look like Golden State…lol…
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@Texas-Hawk-10 If Dotson leaves, I don’t think we have a choice. It might not be pretty, but Bill will win with this approach…
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I say that we split PG time equally between McBride and Garrett. McBride offers offensive firepower, and let’s face it Garrett will be best served coming off the bench to fill in at three positions.
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I like McBride but he would get abused on D.
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Quentin Grimes Has Poured his name out of the NBA draft
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JAYHAWKFAN214 said:
Quentin Grimes Has Poured his name out of the NBA draft
So what does this mean for Quentin? - - -does he transfer? - -does he come back here? - -what?
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jayballer73 said:
JAYHAWKFAN214 said:
Quentin Grimes Has Poured his name out of the NBA draft
So what does this mean for Quentin? - - -does he transfer? - -does he come back here? - -what? Nobody knows yet
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GUENTIN GRIMES IS GONING TO TRANFERRING PER TO BILL SELF
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JAYHAWKFAN214 said:
GUENTIN GRIMES IS GONING TO TRANFERRING PER TO BILL SELF
Now there’s a surprise, huh?
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You can sag off the ball if you are covering a non shooter. After Garrett had those big games driving, teams started doing just that. It changes the available passing angles and really negates the drive to sag off a few feet.
Garrett is a good player with some clear flaws. Putting him at the point won’t erase or even hide those flaws.
Garrett’s best use is as a cutter that works from the wing in, or along the baseline on the weak side. From there, you couldn’t sag off him or use his man as a free safety because he can finish and he would be a very dangerous offensive rebounder if left alone.
Garrett’s limitations mean he is beat served by being on the perimeter less, not more.
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@justanotherfan I agree, now that Dotson has come back. Play DD and McBride at the point, Garrett as a reserve 3 and 2. I think we’ll see Dotson and McBride play together quite a bit. This lineup has depth and versatility, all ten will play.
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At the 5, Dok and Dave; 4 - Silvio and Mitch; the 3, Enaruna and Garrett. With Dotson and McBride running point and Agbaji and Braun at the 2 I am more than comfortable with that ten man rotation. McBride, Braun, Garrett and Agbaji are interchangeable, play them at three spots when and where as needed. I’ll put those ten guys up against anyone this coming season. Rock Chalk, baby!
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I still think we are weak on the wing from a scoring perspective.
Enaruna still has to prove to me he can play on the wing. Until then he is a project and a stretch 4. Braun will not see time as a freshman if I were guessing.
That leaves us with a Dotson, Garrett, Ochai and McBride rotation.
We need another guard/wing.
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I think Enaruna is going to surpise, ditto Braun.
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I think Braun will be effective in time. But if I were projecting his freshman scoring numbers, I would take the under on 6 ppg.
Now, there is a possibility that he ends up being a key floor spacer in a role similar to what Grimes had last year (perhaps one his game is more suited for).
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justanotherfan said:
I think Braun will be effective in time. But if I were projecting his freshman scoring numbers, I would take the under on 6 ppg.
Now, there is a possibility that he ends up being a key floor spacer in a role similar to what Grimes had last year (perhaps one his game is more suited for).
I’d bet on under 3.
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I we don’t sign Wilson I’ll take Braun getting six or seven points a game.
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… And now we wait…
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So, predictions guys! Do you think we’ll land Wilson?
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Marco said:
I we don’t sign Wilson I’ll take Braun getting six or seven points a game.
Please no. Even just get Walker and Braun doesn’t have to play.
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I gave up. I can’t believe that one kid played us. What a jerk! Everyone thinks it’s ok. (Twitter) karmas’s a
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Crimsonorblue22 said:
I gave up. I can’t believe that one kid played us. What a jerk! Everyone thinks it’s ok. (Twitter) karmas’s a
️Its pathetic what happened but that’s the times we live in
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Crimsonorblue22 said:
I gave up. I can’t believe that one kid played us. What a jerk! Everyone thinks it’s ok. (Twitter) karmas’s a
️You’re talking about RJ here right?
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@rockchalkwyo yeah that guy!
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@Crimsonorblue22 oh ok. Just making sure we didn’t get the middle finger from another guy. Thanks
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@BeddieKU23 I didn’t teach my kids to lie like that or be disrespectful. I saw their family at the last game, over there pigging out on food, I’m sure on KU. What a bunch of moochers. Nice role models for parents. Just tell everybody, could care less.
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The OAD rule will soon be gone, but there will still be plenty of divas. I’m of the opinion that we should, for the most part, steer clear of them. We had no OADS in '08, and that turned pretty good - ditto '12. The Year before last was not too bad either (Final Four), even the year before and year before, though only Elite Eights.
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Someone mentioned Zach Harvey the other day. Wonder if we’re interested? What did he get in trouble for?
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I don’t mind oad players, just ones that lie!
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@Crimsonorblue22 Which is all of them?
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@Crimsonorblue22 Give him hell…he deserves it!
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@Marco Naughty pictures.
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@Crimsonorblue22 which game did you see them at?
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@approxinfinity last one, baylor
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@Marco nobody played us like that kid and his dad!
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@Crimsonorblue22 should have figured it out like K and Penny. Then again maybe Self knew and was fine with it ie just part of playing the game.
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@Crimsonorblue22 True… To act like you’re going to make a school choice on ESPN, and taking both them and us for a ride was pretty pathetic.
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Any takers on Wilson signing with KU?
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Marco said:
Any takers on Wilson signing with KU?
Leader in the clubhouse
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FarmerJayhawk said:
Marco said:
Any takers on Wilson signing with KU?
Leader in the clubhouse
You know, I’ll buy that… I think - even if we don’t sign Wilson - that we’ve finally turned the corner. The trial definitely hurt us (pun intended), but the worst is over. It’ll only get better from here.
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We offered a scholarship and are scheduling a Bilau visit. We have also offered Karim Mane. I sense a change in Coach. He might have been turned on and bit by the OAD types three or four times too many, has maybe changed his recruiting accordingly.
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@Marco Mentioned it in the crootin thread already but I like Bilau as a long term prospect.
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@BShark I like him too, also like Mane.
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@FarmerJayhawk brought up how he would like for us to sign Maker, Nx and Thompson in 2020, assuming we sign Walker, Bilau and Wilson thiis year (which means anytime now).
Dave 5, Enaruna 4, Wilson 3, Nix 1, Agbaji 2 - second 5; Maker, Bilau, Walker, McBride and Thompson, Braun in situational spots. The 2020 class is absolutely loaded. A team could sign the bottom five position players and do pretty good for themselves.
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@Marco honestly I’m not sure how realistic Maker is. KU made inroads with that crew during Thon’s recruitment, and probably would’ve gotten him had he gone to college. Just don’t ask how.
