Villanova Wildcats - Saturday - 11 am - ESPN
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@wrwlumpy Nice Lumpy! We got this one?
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If the basketball gods care at all, Villanova will go 0-25 from 3 point land Saturday. THEY ARE FREAKING DUE
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I would really like this team to put our best foot forward in the first half instead of coming out looking like hot poop on a stick.
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I remember how that moment felt.
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Villanova is 8-2 down by 5 to 8-2 Penn (@Penn) with 10 left.
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9 now with 7 min left
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You sure this team is gonna mop the floor with us @BShark ? I’m not feeling it.
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What’s this leg kick out crap?
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Call the O-foul
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Game over even with the heroics.
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Quick whistle by officials is really helping team coming back. Hate that.
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What. Are. You. DOING???
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That was stupid.
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Guess guy fell down…foul there?
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Let’s make it 2 in a row for Villy Manilli.
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Nova needs to be taken down a notch! I know just the team! Was thinking about the game Mario made a 3 in front of jay wright and made a remark to him, loved it. Not a fan!
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I have no problems with Jay Wright. If Self moved on, I’d take Jay I think.
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So you guys agree on this?
Someday a coach will figure out he can just have his player roll the ball into the paint into a crowd with a second left up 3 and automatically win the game. Someday.
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@Bwag I couldn’t take him and po Mario.
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approxinfinity said:
You sure this team is gonna mop the floor with us @BShark ? I’m not feeling it.
Easily. Light work for Jay Wright to DRUB Bill Self.
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@BShark bring it on mr!
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The only thing this does is give BeeShark the excuse for when we destroy Nova Saturday that Nova is just a garbage midmajor.
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Nova looks like garbage at this point but Pascall is a match up nightmare. He’s way faster that Dedric and can score on Garrett. If we dont let anyone else go nuts we will probably be ok. Watching us struggle with average teams and the way Wright has had Selfs number, only a fool thinks this will be a route in favor of ku. Nova could’ve been looking past this game pretty easily.
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@kjayhawks I can’t wait to see how we match up. Who do you think will start out on him?
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Penn out rebounded Nova 35-22 and out assisted 15-6. 3 Nova players fouled out and 2 others had 4 fouls; 1 Penn player fouled out and e others had 4 fouls. Paschal had a very pedestrian 10 points, 5 rebounds, 1 assist, 3 TOs and 4 fouls. I am sure the KU staff will be studying the Penn game plan closely; looks like it worked rather well.
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Great point about Paschall, KU recruited him when he was transferring. He played like Jordan against us in the Final 4 last year and we still don’t have someone to match up with him and very few teams do. Just have to stop him from making 3’s and Nova can be contained
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Nova is a blueblood. Same amount of Natties as KU!
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It will be a good test, but we’ll prevail.
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Paschall alone will not beat KU. containing Booth and Gillespie is the key, they are the real shooters on the team and Dotson and whoever plays the other guard will have their hands full. This is the type of game that a hot wing for KU can go crazy…could be Vick or Grimes finally awakening and putting on a show.
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We are the better team on paper. If we defend the 3 well everything will be fine.
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Rarely does one player beat KU but often when KU loses someone is the catalyst and the matchups look favorable for Paschall to be that guy as their stretch big. He’s already had one monster game against KU (Final 4) so I’m worried he parks out on the 3 point line and gives us fits again. Hopefully Bill has a good gameplan for him. I would put Garrett on him personally and leave Dedric to guard Roundtree and whoever else they bring in at that other forward position
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Crimsonorblue22 said:
What’s this leg kick out crap?
YA, and then expect the offical to call a foul - -not happening
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kjayhawks said:
Nova looks like garbage at this point but Pascall is a match up nightmare. He’s way faster that Dedric and can score on Garrett. If we dont let anyone else go nuts we will probably be ok. Watching us struggle with average teams and the way Wright has had Selfs number, only a fool thinks this will be a route in favor of ku. Nova could’ve been looking past this game pretty easily.
Still gonna have to get out and defend the dam 3 – especially on oh hell what’s that dude’s name? - -the guard? - -then Booth to right?
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Kcmatt7 said:
We are the better team on paper. If we defend the 3 well everything will be fine.
Ya that’s who it was - -I said Booth shooting the 3 – - my bad - -it’s Paschell , he is the idiot that likes to kick his leg out and look for the foul , him a nd G - -not going to try and spell his name - - those are two that is just a must - -contest the 3 on - -otherwise they can kill you from the 3
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I think booth kicks his leg out
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@Crimsonorblue22 I think you have to start Garrett on him, in the FF it didn’t matter who we had on him, he made it look easy. He’s hands down our best on ball defender, Dotson is pretty solid as well but probably can’t guard a 6’8 guy. Vick maybe another guy that has at times played great defense and has the ability so Self put him on as well.
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@BShark It’s a good thing it takes more than a good five years to be a Blue Blood. Nova and Marsha fans may disagree lol.
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If KU beats Villanova on Saturday, there’s a good chance Nova falls out of the Top 25. KState is almost out of the Top 25 (tied for 25th with Indiana and Syracuse). Arizona is unranked. Another loss would probably make Kentucky unranked.
When was the last time that there were no Wildcats ranked in the Top 25? It could happen this season.
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Booth, Gillespie, Bey and Cremo are all better 3 point shooters than Paschall. Paschall does take more 3 point attempts than all of them except Booth but the 4 I mentioned have better percentages and take a fair number of 3s. If KU concentrates on Paschall it will get killed by the others; Penn did a great job defending Paschall and limited him to 10 points and 5 rebounds; that is the game plan KU needs to consider.
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@kjayhawks Nova has been in the game for decades. I would rank them ahead of Indiana in blue blood wanna be status. Still, they remain as wanna bes in the grand hierarchy of things. Was florida a blue blood because they won back to back?
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@KUSTEVE They have been a solid program for the most part, I’d say fairly even with IU at this point which isn’t a Blue Blood to me. IU has a better overall history but has only been relevant about 5 seasons since the mid 90s even before Knights departure. Villanova was always a decent program but went from 1940 to 2008 with only 1 FF (85 NC) and 5 conference championships. That isn’t good enough to be a Blue Blood IMO.
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Seems to me that blue bloods means historical – KU, UNC, UK, Indiana are the bluest of the blue bloods. Add in UCLA and Duke because their history over the last appx. 60 years. Then we get to the next tier that aren’t blue bloods. I don’t think Nova is a “blue blood” at all. They are next tier, like Michigan St., Louisville, Syracuse, UConn, etc.
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There are only 3 blue bloods in my books. KU… then UK …then UNC. Ku provided Tucky with Rupp, and Dean “Traitor” Smith to UNC so we would have some competition when we played.
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KUSTEVE said:
@kjayhawks Nova has been in the game for decades. I would rank them ahead of Indiana in blue blood wanna be status. Still, they remain as wanna bes in the grand hierarchy of things. Was florida a blue blood because they won back to back?
umm NO. - -I for one would not consider then a blue blood by any means. - -Other then those back to back Championships - -they have accomplished - ummm what?
- -If anything they was a flash in the pan. - Since those championships what have they done?
A blue blood or what I consider a blue blood is the likes of KU - - Kentucky - - N Carolina - - - Duke -plus others that are there - -year after year - -after year. -Schools that are consistently in the upper rankings of the top 25 - -a School that provides something on the terms of being invited to the NCAA tourney like KU has for a number of straight years to the tourney - -a team yes like Kentucky that leads ALL schools in all time wins - -a team like N Carolina that has many NCAA Championships – Those are true blood. -ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY
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Indiana isn’t a Blue Blood IMO anymore. they haven’t won a NC in over 30 years and only have 2 FF in that span. They also have only 3 conference titles since 1993, I haven’t considered them a Blue Blood in a decade. People wanted to say we weren’t blue blood because we went so long between titles, Indiana has one NC since the tournament expanded to 64+ teams.
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Recent history, the last decade, is all that compromises Indiana’s credentials – or maybe from its last FF in 2002. They have five national championships, and incredible history dating back to the 1800s I believe. Their elite status is compromised of course because of recent play. But the blood is blue in my opinion because of history.
KU a bluer blue blood than UK or UNC? Kinda maybe not. Our lack of NCs drag us back a bit. Hard to claim we’re a more bluer blue blood than UK or UNC. I’ll take “on par.” But the NCs for UNC and UK make our argument of parity a difficult one (vs. those two with near equal resumes otherwise).
Of course, the definition of blue blood is up to the individual. But to claim Indiana is not a blue blood, I believe, is to ignore the very history of the game that so ingratiates our alma mater. We have to win a few more NCs.
But many believe their status is compromised … one example below.
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@HighEliteMajor Indiana didn’t play basketball til 1901 and were pretty much irrelevant til the late 1920s from 1926 to 1993 they were at a blue blood status with a few misses in that time similar to our history in that span (average at best for a decade in the early 40s after the 1940 NC). Outside of the FF in 02 and 3 conference titles they have done nothing since 1993.
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Blue blood status means a combination of long-term success with near universal recognition for coaching contributions to the game and for producing numerous elite players.
Short term success linked to a single coach (Gonzaga, for example) isn’t enough. Sporadic breakthroughs (Villanova) aren’t enough (they would have a better case if their Howard Porter F4 had not been vacated; same with Michigan and the Fab 5).
I think UCLA’s success is so uniquely overwhelming it gets in despite its checkered history.
I think of Indiana as a Blue Blood sort of like faded aristocracy in a Faulkner novel. Respect must be paid, but the power and energy connoted by the term is more in the memory than in the reality.
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mayjay said:
I think of Indiana as a Blue Blood sort of like faded aristocracy in a Faulkner novel. Respect must be paid, but the power and energy connoted by the term is more in the memory than in the reality.
Love this.
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Why is KU universally considered a “blue blood”? It isn’t NCAA titles - six schools have more titles than KU, some of which, as noted by others, don’t really warrant the approbation. Rather it is the depth, breadth and richness of KU’s basketball history…
It is the inventor of the game; it is Phog Allen; it is Allen Field House; it is the connections to Dean Smith, Adolph Rupp, Roy Smith and others; it is Wilt Chamberlain, Clyde Lovellette, Danny Manning and many others; it is the sustained success over many decades; it is the second most wins of all time; it is the most conference titles of any school; indeed, a top 5 ranking (most top 3) in almost all all-time team categories; and, it is Rock Chalk Jayhawk…
