New 2019 Recruiting
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BShark said:
@BeddieKU23 Exactly. Makes a lot of sense to pick GT. I don’t think Memphis wanted him much tbh.
Yeah plus Memphis is big game hunting. Hurt/Watford etc
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Daniels put his pick in for Oregon… Interesting
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BeddieKU23 said:
Daniels put his pick in for Oregon… Interesting
Whoa. Everyone thought GT. Maybe Oregon made a late pu$h.
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Oregon set to warmer on 24/7, others at warm. Woo boy.
Edit: Kansas set to “cool” now. Yeah, sounds about right.
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@BShark $$$.
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Couple more picks for Oregon. He is announcing tomorrow.
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@BShark Ya Daniels & Meyers both have picked Oregon. - - ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY
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Here is the early signing period for KU - - -( Crickets - - - Chirp - - Chirp ) just a snooze. - Can’t really remember having such a quiet period as this year. - -ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY
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jayballer73 said:
Here is the early signing period for KU - - -( Crickets - - - Chirp - - Chirp ) just a snooze. - Can’t really remember having such a quiet period as this year. - -ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY
In 2016 Mitch was the only early signee.
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Back to the norm. Not much early activity. A nice bout of hand wringing should ensue… and then somehow it works out.
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NLI is in for Braun. Not a surprise, but might as well post it.
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BShark said:
NLI is in for Braun. Not a surprise, but might as well post it.
Yippee - -we didn’t get shut out. - -Na you know I’m just playing.
Red an article of 247 this morning , they were talking about how schools that were list in this FBI thing - -how they have done in the 2019 recruiting . they listed:
USC is Listed as having the # 1 class for 2019. - — - – - Arizona has the # 3- - - - - - in 2019 - - - - - - - - Louisville # 4 - – - in 2019- - - - - -Auburn # 9- - - - -in 2019 - - - - - - - Oklahoma St - -a top 15 class in 2019 - - - - Miami – - - - -decent class – - - - --in 2019 --& - - - - -North Carolina State - - -with kind of a decent class.
So there shouldn’t be that much difference with us for what? - -would it be our 2020 class? - - - -ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY
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Chandler Lawson to Oregon.
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Gorilla72 said:
Chandler Lawson to Oregon.
Will be interesting to see about the younger brother - - what is his name ? Jonathan right? Seems like I had heard he might be the best of the group. Wonder how that works out.
Do you think he might follow his brothers? - -or go elsewhere? - -Do we think with we showed very little interest in Chandler might come back and bite us in the ass? - -OR will no have not that much effect if any at all?- -Kind of wonder what daddy Chandler will have to say about the whole thing - - Or will he be the Chandler that stays home and goes to Memphis? - -I hope we hit him hard – - -ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY
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NLI also in for McBride.
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Not an OAD fan, but not a big fan of 100+ guys either. On the other hand, it’s obvious why we’re in this position. So I don’t think anyone will really complain. Hope not.
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I think 75-150 is usually fairly similar.
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Mackey will play better then his rank by senior yr
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Ship has sailed… Any name KU is associated with right now is going elsewhere. In the spring we’ll see who the staff can recruit after we hopefully have a great year.
ARE KANSAS’ CHANCES WITH TOP-10 PLAYER … HURT? Will the mess surrounding Kansas right now eventually prevent them from signing Hurt? And if so, who gets his services, in your opinion? #AskEvan
— Andrew (@notorious_acv) November 12, 2018 This is a legitimate question. Do I think Kansas is in good shape with Hurt? Yes, I do. Will Kansas coming up in the FBI impact things? Not sure. It’s possible, but only Hurt and his family would know the answer to that. It does seem like it may impact things with Zeke Nnaji, as it’s one factor that his father, Apham, brought up during a recent interview with 247Sports. Kansas and Arizona coming up in the trial is ultimately what I believe lead to Nnaji setting up a late meeting and trip with North Carolina.
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Updated original post. Both verbal commits signed yesterday.
Removed all High Priority recruits at this time. Realistically KU is done recruiting until the spring. Hopefully a great season can salvage this mess
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BeddieKU23 said:
Updated original post. Both verbal commits signed yesterday.
Removed all High Priority recruits at this time. Realistically KU is done recruiting until the spring. Hopefully a great season can salvage this mess
The fact that Cassius didn’t announce/sign yesterday is good for KU.
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BShark said:
BeddieKU23 said:
Updated original post. Both verbal commits signed yesterday.
Removed all High Priority recruits at this time. Realistically KU is done recruiting until the spring. Hopefully a great season can salvage this mess
The fact that Cassius didn’t announce/sign yesterday is good for KU.
Yeah. I’d still be surprised if he signed with KU. Self made it seem like they weren’t expecting anymore.
Is Stanley just going to verbal and not sign during the period?
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BeddieKU23 said:
BShark said:
BeddieKU23 said:
Updated original post. Both verbal commits signed yesterday.
Removed all High Priority recruits at this time. Realistically KU is done recruiting until the spring. Hopefully a great season can salvage this mess
The fact that Cassius didn’t announce/sign yesterday is good for KU.
Yeah. I’d still be surprised if he signed with KU. Self made it seem like they weren’t expecting anymore.
Is Stanley just going to verbal and not sign during the period?
That’s the hope. If he signs, it’s Oregon.
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OK . I think that we just have to come to the realization , which I think most have , but we have to just accept that THIS recruiting season has just become a flat out bust.
Now there is some that is not really wanting to think or understand but yet others then me have said this , that is IF you don’t think that this FBI thing hasn’t effected the recruiting for this year , which it has beyond a show of a doubt that it has - -no doubt it has , and that is having a big impact on this years class.
Zeke’s dad has mentioned it , who knows how it has had an impact on others whether they come out publicly or not , Romeo’s dad mentioned it afterwards - - who knows what Hurt and his family are thinking. - -Bottom line is right at this point at the major recruits that we have went after we are batting a BIG FAT ZERO. & I’m tellin people that that this FBI thing has at least played even a small pat in that.
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There are a number of top prospects that have not signed and with whom KU has the lead or is a strong contender. Very premature to call the recruiting class a bust when the recruiting season is far from done. It would be the equivalent of calling Villanova and Kentucky busts because of one bad game when the bulk of the season is still ahead. I will wait until all recruiting is done before stating and opinion on how good…or bad…the recruiting class is. That is just me.
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JayHawkFanToo said:
There are a number of top prospects that have not signed and with whom KU has the lead
No.
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@JayHawkFanToo Well what I posted was just me. - -find your post interesting. - -Not really sure where you get your information to say it is far from a bust.
Only 13 players out of the top 50 still uncommitted , out of that - - -only 2 that even list KU as a possibility - - that being Hurt- -& Nnaji .
Only 21 uncommitted players left in the top 100- - -so out of the top 100 players listed - -again even out of the top 100 players - - - - and of those 21 uncommitted there is only 2 mentioning KU - -Again Hurt and Nnaji. – So 2 of the top 100 players mentioning interest or receiving any votes to KU - -So just curious what you consider top recruits? - - I mean out of the top 100 - -we have 2, what is your definition of top recruits - -and top recruits that we are leading for? - -just curious - -Then we have Evan Daniels talking about how this FBI things HAS hindered KU’s recruiting , saying IF we could still land Hurt- -IF we could and then land another of our targeted top recruits , we could still a decent year - -don’t hold your breath on HURT - - -ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY
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BShark said:
JayHawkFanToo said:
There are a number of top prospects that have not signed and with whom KU has the lead
No.
Exactly , that’s what I’m telling him or so what I’ve seen also - -No - -there are not. - -ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY
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I was kind of seeing the spring cupboard as somewhat bare.
Hope – we get Matthew Hurt and a helpful grad transfer. We’ll likely lose Dedric, Doke, Grimes, Vick – uh, pretty much our whole starting lineup.
Dotson, Moore, Garrett, Mitch, McCormack. Right?
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HighEliteMajor said:
I was kind of seeing the spring cupboard as somewhat bare.
Hope – we get Matthew Hurt and a helpful grad transfer. We’ll likely lose Dedric, Doke, Grimes, Vick – uh, pretty much our whole starting lineup.
Dotson, Moore, Garrett, Mitch, McCormack. Right?
Ya that’s pretty much what I saw as leaving - -then IF Silvio is gone by chance - -that means there 5 leaving - -and we have brought 2 on - -so that means we would have 3 more to offer - -maybe 4. – ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY
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Someone always works out. Someone will “reopen” their recruitment if KU has a starting spot available.
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HighEliteMajor said:
I was kind of seeing the spring cupboard as somewhat bare.
Hope – we get Matthew Hurt and a helpful grad transfer. We’ll likely lose Dedric, Doke, Grimes, Vick – uh, pretty much our whole starting lineup.
Dotson, Moore, Garrett, Mitch, McCormack. Right?
Things can easily be worked out with Doke or Dedric to return.
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Take a look a this chart, lots of potential players left…
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JayHawkFanToo said:
Take a look a this chart, lots of potential players left…
No, no, CUT KU SERIOUSLY LOL, CUT KU, no, Purdue or UNC, CUT KU, CUT KU, nah and might skip college, CUT KU, CUT KU, maybe actually, no, what???, NO.
That’s in order, not counting Braun or McBride since they committed.
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KU will get guys, not worried about that. The only one on that list that KU has a shot at is Stanley though, and I still think he ends up at Oregon but him not signing yesterday was good.
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We still have a great shot at Hurt. Get him and everything is dandy.
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@BShark In the spring if it looks like Doke and Dedric are gone (and SDS is not eligible)…don’t you think that helps our chances with Hurt? Of course, we don’t know what he or his family thinks about the FBI mess.
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BShark said:
KU will get guys, not worried about that. The only one on that list that KU has a shot at is Stanley though, and I still think he ends up at Oregon but him not signing yesterday was good.
Well it is coming to Christmas – -doesn’t hurt to have a wish list lol. - -I was thinking about the same thing , I’ve made my post on this , came from 247 - -were not leading for anyone that is left other then Hurt Nnaji we are even right now - -other then that we got NOTHING. - - I mean ya sure Stanley has thought about us- -but to think we are pulling him off the Coast doesn’t look good. - -other then that - - no one is eve mentioning us. - -ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY
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Dotson is coming back so no top pg prospect will be coming. Too much mystery in the post for a big time post player to commit at this point - Dedrick?, Dok?, McCormack? DeSousa??? Otherwise Mitch isn’t scaring anyone off. That leaves the wing - I’m not sure why a big time wing prospect hasn’t considered KU for 19 considering Bill’s track record at the position. Grimes should be gone. Only Garret and KJ returning means big minutes are up for grabs for an elite wing talent.
When playing time is obviously open is when KU does it’s best recruiting. Kids just don’t come seem to Kansas as often to sit on the bench as they will Kentucky.
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@dylans Well stated.
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As far as wings, staff seems high on Agbaji who they are stashing to have ready for next season. Agree though we somehow missed on almost every other blue chip wing we went after. Stanley is a wing imo in Self’s offense so maybe a miracle happens and we get him.
We blew the Sam Williamson recruitment, that should have been the wing KU has in the fold right now. Missed on Jalen Wilson because we didn’t sink our teeth enough to beat Michigan for him. I think he’s a future pro in time. Achiuwa & Josh Green were always pipe-dreams. We got Braun who they like as an interchangeable perimeter option and he’s 6’5, 6’6 and might still be growing.
Self has his work cut out for him in the upcoming months
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HighEliteMajor said:
I was kind of seeing the spring cupboard as somewhat bare.
Hope – we get Matthew Hurt and a helpful grad transfer. We’ll likely lose Dedric, Doke, Grimes, Vick – uh, pretty much our whole starting lineup.
Dotson, Moore, Garrett, Mitch, McCormack. Right?
Agree, its bare right now. @BShark could be right about the staff trying to recruit Dedric or Doke at season’s end to stay in some way. Both in similar situations that Frank, Devonte & Svi were in after their Jr years. The NBA is not drooling over them no matter what they do this year. You get one of them to pair with Dotson and its about maximizing the talent around those two.
Hurt would be a huge signing in the post if the Dedric/Doke boat is a lost cause. KU would still need a 4th big which is where the Silvio situation factors in. I would like to think by spring KU knows what its dealing with for Silvio. A Hurt/Silvio/Mitch/McCormack 4 stack is not the worst combination we’ve had.
Outside of the post situation being in flux we really need an impact guard. Losing Grimes/Vick will really sting. Garrett, Moore, KJ not going to cut it. Cassius Stanley would help some but he comes with his shortcomings as well. Probably ranked as high as he is because he’s an elite athlete but not even close to the all around players that Grimes/Vick are right now.
At least Self’s recruiting message should be clear and resonate with kids in the spring. He’ll have starters minutes to hand out. Can’t beat that unless the FBI thing still looms
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@BeddieKU23 @jayballer73 @FarmerJayhawk @Kcmatt7 Nugget from Scott Chasen.
“An interesting post-game note… Dedric Lawson shouted out his little brother. I asked him in a smaller session what he thought of the announcement (Chandler Lawson committed to Oregon). He said that Chandler wanted to be a Jayhawk but they weren’t able to make that fit work.”
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Makes sense. KU wasn’t that interested because Chandler isn’t that good.
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He is pretty good but you have to be better than that to get meaningful playing time at KU.
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We are struggling to get kJ mins
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Crimsonorblue22 said:
We are struggling to get kJ mins
Agree and Chandler is not as good as KJ therefore this decision.
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@BShark who’s your new avi?
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@Crimsonorblue22 Errol Flynn.
Thought you’d be old enough.