Draft Declarations Thread
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@BShark Just really would be a huge mistake if he declared right now , yet we are talking about an 18 yr old- - he has so much work to do. Still there would be some NBA team willing to take that chance of his size alone probably - -he is Sooooo not reaqdy. –
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I don’t think Doke would be drafted if he goes.
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He could get a G-League 2 way contract… I think he’s going to explore every avenue possible. I’ll be surprised if he doesn’t and I’ll welcome his return
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Is the perfect storm at Villanova coming to an end?
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@JayHawkFanToo I won’t consider it over until Wright proves it’s over. Had they not landed Quinerley, I’d have some concerns. But they should be able to keep on keeping on it looks like.
If Spellman leaves, I do think it will be hard for them to be a top 5 team. I just don’t think he is going anywhere.
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jayballer73 said:
Has Wendall Carter declared yet?
Been in Atlanta trying to nail down an Agent. Only a matter of time.
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I’d be really surprised if Doke even got a combine invite if he declares. If he does, it’s probably to gauge overseas options as much as anything.
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I will add there’s a chance that the NCAA allows undrafted players to return to school this year. It might be in Sec. Rice’s report to the NCAA that’s due for release around the end of the month. In that case, I think Doke really should return, but have no problem with him testing and even going through the draft.
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FarmerJayhawk said:
I will add there’s a chance that the NCAA allows undrafted players to return to school this year. It might be in Sec. Rice’s report to the NCAA that’s due for release around the end of the month. In that case, I think Doke really should return, but have no problem with him testing and even going through the draft.
That would be a great change
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Agreed. It wasn’t that long ago that it was actually the case. Randolph Morris went undrafted once and returned to Kentucky.
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The last mock draft by Spts Illus has Devonte 37, Malik 56, and Svi 68.
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Brunson’s done will hire an agent.
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dylans said:
Brunson’s done will hire an agent.
This pleases me
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dylans said:
Brunson’s done will hire an agent.
Good
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dylans said:
Brunson’s done will hire an agent.
Yeah he was never coming back. Quinerly wasn’t coming to come off the bench.
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Taken from another board in regards to Doke
I asked Dok if he was returning (at the banquet) and he put a big grin on his face and finally said “sure.” Had a word with one of the assistants coaches and his comment was 60-40 staying.
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Having Doke back should make for an interesting rotation. I think this means McCormack is the odd man out from a PT standpoint because he and Doke play the same type of role and they can’t be on the floor together against most teams. It would be difficult to play Doke and De Sousa together as it is. Dedric needs 25-28 mpg, Doke probably needs 22-25. De Sousa can play 15 and Lightfoot can play some. When we go small, KJ can play the 4. When we go big, KJ slides to the 3. But I just don’t see where McCormack finds minutes if Doke returns unless he, Doke and De Sousa somehow split roughly 50 minutes between the three of them. That would be a tough rotation to keep together. Maybe redshirt someone?
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Interesting conundrum for Doke. At this time he is a one dimensional player and the dimension being one that the NBA is getting away from. He needs to stay and diversify his game, particularly improve rebounding and develop a midrange shot but to do this he needs playing time and likely would need assurances from the staff he will get playing time; I am not sure that assurance is a sure thing at this time.
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Agreed. I just don’t see how Doke is going to develop some of those things at KU. Is Bill Self really going to take Doke out of the post to help him develop his face up game? The rebounding, I absolutely see Doke being able to develop. But diversifying his offensive game likely won’t happen at KU. I think that’s where the 40 part of the 60/40 is coming from. Doke understands he needs to develop, but breaking from his one dimensional game requires a significant change in his role - a change I am not sure KU will make because its not worth it from KU’s perspective to have Doke go from shooting 77% from the field to 60% because he’s taking 12 footers all of a sudden.
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And Hamidou Diallo is gone. UK’s “stacked” roster continuing to fall apart piece by piece. Hearing PJ is leaning towards staying in the draft now. Green transfer rumors are still abundant as well.
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Kcmatt7 said:
And Hamidou Diallo is gone. UK’s “stacked” roster continuing to fall apart piece by piece. Hearing PJ is leaning towards staying in the draft now. Green transfer rumors are still abundant as well.
Tyrese Maxey is going to reclass to 2018 and commit to UK.
So young again!
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@BShark Have you ever seen a team with so many PGs? lol.
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Herro isn’t going to be happy no way no how. Green has to be so butthurt right now.
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Kcmatt7 said:
@BShark Have you ever seen a team with so many PGs? lol.
UK has 3 5* PG and Duke has 3 5* wings. Maybe they should do a trade.
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Kcmatt7 said:
Herro isn’t going to be happy no way no how. Green has to be so butthurt right now.
You’d think these kids know what they are signing up for. Herro isn’t going to play now LOL.
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@BShark Is the Maxey thing official?
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But it’s not official yet.
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@BShark I swear Cal has some military grade cologne or something that puts people in a trans and they believe everything he says.
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@Kcmatt7 The fan base too. They went from upset to declaring 40-0 again.
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@BShark Lol right? That has me dead! I look at that team and all I can see is 10 losses. Chris Weber and Jalen Rose aren’t walking through that door
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@Kcmatt7 18 class is weak too. Anyone counting on all players from it is in for major disappointment. Maxey and Hagans are easily better than Quickley.
Like maybe Quickley should have considered KU. At least Self wouldn’t recruit over him in the SAME CLASS.
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OMG WHAT IF QUICKLEY IS THE MYSTERY PLAYER.
pounds 12 beers, runs around naked, passes out
(all fiction no malice)
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@BShark Lol Kentucky fans would have a Civil War if that happened.
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@Kcmatt7 Yeah I mean there is no way, he legit loves UK.
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@BShark Oh he’s not going anywhere. But, Cal 100% told everyone of these kids they would come in and start or be the first guy off of the bench and play 25 mpg. That isn’t going to happen at this point, so someone is going to be pissed.
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Today is basically the last day to ask for feedback without officially declaring. A week from today is basically the deadline to declare. At least we should have an answer on Doke in the next week. Langford decision is in 2 and a half weeks. By then, I hope we basically have our roster figured out.
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@Kcmatt7 Sure seems like Doke will stick around.
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@BShark I sure hope so.
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@Kcmatt7 Yeah, seems like more of a need with the Silvio situation too. This has to be so hard for Doke. He obviously isn’t ready for the NBA but I’m sure he really wants to start getting paid so he can get his mom out of Africa.
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@BShark I will 100% respect his decision to leave if that’s what he chooses.
I wish he could talk to an agent about it and see what he would likely get paid if he went to play overseas.
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Maxey isn’t going to reclassify. UK prefers him in 2019 to replace Hagans and/or Quickley. Probably means Green is sticking around.
The Doke situation is super quiet. Nobody is talking. I’m thinking he stays b
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It would be very helpful to Doke if he could get some feedback not just from the NBA, but from teams overseas. He could probably make a decent amount playing overseas at his size. Not millions, but hundreds of thousands. It is a bit difficult that he cannot consult with an agent about those options without forfeiting his eligibility, as that would be very helpful in his decision making. Most NBA folks aren’t connected enough with the international basketball scene to give quality advice on what other leagues may be interested in with a player like Doke. Doke may be even more valuable overseas because of the fact that he isn’t a guy likely to be poached by the NBA in a few years.
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@nuleafjhawk Man! How can you be mad at Paul?? One of the best all time Jayhawks. Period. He went to the League and was a multi time All Star. He never forgot KU and his roots there. I could go on and on here. Paul will always be a Jayhawk. That 97 team he was on was so dominant a case could be made that it was the best team KU fielded ever in its history. They ran into some terrible luck against AZ, shoulda gotten an NC that year. That’s the way the ball bounces sometimes tho. Kind of like how Duke’s shot rimmed out at the last second and we go to the Final Four this year in an unprecedented run.
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The coaching staf has great connection with the pro scouts and NBA teams and they get the information and relay it to the player and advise him on whether to go or stay. Markieff has not really planned on leaving with Marcus but the staff told him he would be a lottery pick and off he went.
So, while an agent can contact teams and get specific offers, the coaching staff can get him pretty good information about the overall interest by pro teams.
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For NBA stuff, that is absolutely true, but Doke’s best opportunities probably lie overseas. Without connections to the international agents and scouts, Doke isn’t getting all of the best advice for his unique situation.
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Times have changed. There are many scouting agencies like this one that scout American and International players for NBA and overseas teams and they are in contact with American college programs scouting players for potential international teams. KU staff has information not only on NBA but also international potential destinations; this is part of the service they sell to prospects parents, the ability to provide complete scouting reports including overseas opportunities.
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@Lulufulu One thing you probably need to know about me bro (or sis) - I use hyperbole and sarcasm a lot. Almost exclusively.
Love Paul. Would have loved him a tiny bit more if he had stayed one more year. No big deal.
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Wendell Carter breaks his momma’s heart. NBA with Agent. Duke’s entire starting 5 gone
