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@BShark ya well sounded pretty logical to umm LOTS - not just jayballer 73 lmao. - But we know you didn’t give that a thought right? - - Sure you didn’t it’s ok. - go ahead cast those stones lmao. still ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY.
Oh ya guess you didn’t feel like to answer the important question that I ask huh? - like in the end run how is this going to effect us - Penalities? - De-Commits? - -Ya I’ll say it again even if the University has no wrong doing in this - -This kind of pub is just what Indiana ordered for the Romeo recruitment. - -Couldn’t have come at a better time for them. - That’s ok though if it does - -were still gonna be fine. - We were fine before Romeo- and he now doesn’t come- we still be fine - ok ready - -GO - -throw those stones lmao
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I doubt there will be any decommits.
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Maybe we can get a contract for our shoe’s wear the " BIG BALLER BRAND ROFLMAO " - just kidding. - -ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY
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@Kcmatt7 Matt… you’re just too connected to the concept of equal justice, fairness, impartiality, and general goodness to believe this a true hit, and not a random event under a system of fairness that will eventually getting around to punishing the KYs and the Dooks of the Nike Empire. Adidas- “Maxwell’s Silver Hammer” / Nike- “Shuffle some papers. Make it look good”. It appears the FBI is doing it’s best to run Adidas out of this country.
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The indictment says Gatto and others concealed payments to the first Kansas player by transferring money to an AAU team controlled by the unidentified Adidas consultant. He delivered $30,000 to the mother at a hotel room in New York on Oct. 31, 2016, and another $20,000 in cash at a hotel room in Las Vegas on Jan. 19, 2017. The consultant also wired $15,000 to the player’s mother on June 14, 2017.
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Billy Preston’s mom ladies and gentlemen!
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@BShark Dodge Charger.
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@BShark That IS a bright side.
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If they bought that charger with the money they are some of the dumbest people
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@BeddieKU23 I mean…you’ve read some of Billy’s mom’s twitter right?
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Yes, her son is Jesus or something like that and he’s a millionaire, well apparently just a thousandaire. Whatever the case they sure didn’t hide their stupidity
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How surprising. This woman, who projected her actions were keeping her son pristine, took money? And the Charger was dirty? Shocked.
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Doesn’t Adidas have interest in Jackson going to KU just as much (if not more) than KU does? I could obviously see how KU would be interested in bending the rules a little to get a talent like that, but I’d bet there’s some guys within the Adidas camp that are a lot more desperate than Self and Co. I just hope KU doesn’t have to vacate any wins due to Jackson being technically ineligible.
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chriz said:
Doesn’t Adidas have interest in Jackson going to KU just as much (if not more) than KU does? I could obviously see how KU would be interested in bending the rules a little to get a talent like that, but I’d bet there’s some guys within the Adidas camp that are a lot more desperate than Self and Co. I just hope KU doesn’t have to vacate any wins due to Jackson being technically ineligible.
Josh is, at least currently, not involved. The current stuff is about Preston and Silvio.
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Josh’s mom got $90k didn’t she?
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If Silvio took money, whether KU knew about it or not…wasn’t he still an ineligible participant? Hence…aren’t any wins that he participated in potentially in jeopardy?
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I should have said, If Silvio or his family took money…
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chriz said:
Josh’s mom got $90k didn’t she?
No
Check the ESPN article. Billy’s mom. I was confident from the jump it was Billy just based on the timing when other people were saying JJ.
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Hawk8086 said:
I should have said, If Silvio or his family took money…
Wording is weird. It says his guardian took money to pay pack Under Armor. Odds are he took more but who knows.
KU will be fine either way. Always thought the vacated stuff was funny. The games happened. Also are they going to just vacate the entire season? Some mid or low major NCAA champs?
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I’m fairly worried at this point that the 2018 season could easily be vacated, at least the wins that Silvio played in. Interesting enough a source I trusted today told me before this news broke that KU maybe headed away from Adidas very very soon. I would be shocked at this point if stuff isn’t vacated, hopefully they have stuff on some Nike schools like Dook or we could be headed down real quick.
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@BShark I agree vacating is weird, the games happened…but ask Michigan about vacated wins. They happened, but it is not the same.
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@kjayhawks Vacate my ass I say. Total joke if it happens.
Nike and UA are just as involved. Football involved too.
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KU didn’t play Preston after finding out, and the Silvio situation is super weird. I don’t see vacating anything but we will see…
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Fact is the NCAA cleared Silvio. NCAA and KU apparently had no knowledge of the situation. Would be odd to punish KU for it.
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I would think punishment of a school, i.e., vacating wins, would be based on the player status, not knowledge or culpability of the school.
We cannot dump Adidas soon enough. Just bought a new pair of Adidas golf shoes. Going back tomorrow.
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KU not playing Preston makes me feel pretty good, tbh.
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HighEliteMajor said:
Just bought a new pair of Adidas golf shoes. Going back tomorrow.
That will be a fun convo.
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@HighEliteMajor sadly I just bought a pair of Adidas shoes Saturday, I think I’ll stick to new balance til this crud is worked out.
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@kjayhawks I’m going to have a ceremony where I burn mine. Way too late to return.
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@BShark I’m sure Nike is just as guilty, I’m sure they will get away with it having Coach K like they always do.
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It would be fair to limit vacating victories to schools that know, but Camby accepted $28,000 and lots of other gifts from two agents, Howard Porter signed a pro contract mid-year, and Rose was found to have had someone else take his college boards. All three schools had their F4s vacated, and UMass had to pay back all the NCAA tourney money (I assume the others did, too).
Now, the first two seem to have occurred after the players had already been in school for a couple years, so maybe that was deemed under the school’s supervision, but Rose was not in school yet at the time of the event and the NCAA had already cleared him for play.
The allegations involving KU players are scary to me because they involve inducements to attend KU. That seems a more reasonable basis to include the school that benefitted from those inducements in sanctions.
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Do they make you take down your banners? Do they make you stop printing back-2-back-2-back-2-back etc. t-shirts?
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@mayjay Are they going to sanction everyone? Schools could just tell the NCAA to pound sand.
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@chriz I think they actually do make you take down the banners under the “full compliance” with any sanctions standard. I.e., if you don’t take it down you are not “accepting” the sanction of vacating the celebrated appearance.
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See also: Duke and Corey Maggette.
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@BShark I hate to say it, but that statement proves nothing I think. I mean a communication from the KU athletic department saying we’re victims just doesn’t sound real convincing. That’s not to say we really are victims in this, but it just sounds funny. I wish the statement was from whoever named KU in this accusation.
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@wissox I didn’t say the statement proved anything. Just posted it because KU put out a statement. KU was named as a victim in the release though, fwiw. Take from that what you will.
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If Billy’s mom took the money, it took some huge amount of chutzpah for her to bitch about the investigation like she did!
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mayjay said:
If Billy’s mom took the money, it took some huge amount of chutzpah for her to bitch about the investigation like she did!
She did, don’t really think it can be disputed. And she’s completely crazy.
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@BShark How do you know Billy’s mom took money?
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@BShark The entire indictment claims all universities are the victims, not just KU. This is the first I’ve seen where no university employees supposedly knew, like an assistant coach.
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@wissox I read the indictment. I mean I guess there is a non-zero (like 0.000000000001) chance that she didn’t but I have a hard time seeing it any other way.
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HighEliteMajor said:
@BShark The entire indictment claims all universities are the victims, not just KU. This is the first I’ve seen where no university employees supposedly knew, like an assistant coach.
Fair point. The verbage in the release did at least say that it was done w/o KU’s knowledge.
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You notice who’s not mentioned in all Of this? New Balance. Maybe the would like to get some 990s hoop style in the college game.
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Also If Silvio is not an amateur, I assume we vacate wins…
It doesn’t matter if the school knows or not.
Better check these top recruits we are getting this year. seems odd we are getting a medium stack out of nonehere.
Also batestradamus has been talking about petro shoe company for a very long time.
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@BShark The article I read says it doesn’t name specific players.
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Well, if our latest F4 gets vacated, we can possibly use USC’s clever ploy by no longer counting the loss to Villanova because of it being vacated. They used the Reggie Bush sanctions to claim that their 2006 bowl game loss to Texas was vacated, magically re-making them undefeated by the Longhorns!
https://ftw.usatoday.com/2017/09/usc-texas-bcs-rose-bowl-game-2006-vacated-loss-college-football
So, see? Wright doesn’t have Bill’s number as much as we thought.
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@BShark Which makes me question the total indictment — if University actors knew, how is the university a victim? Or where does it become relevant how much the university knew? And who is the university? The case seems to want to disassociate the university from it chosen representatives. Of course, the entire deal rides on the concept that a player is ineligible because of internal rules. Just a sham case anyway.
