So nothing yet?
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Well I’m beginning to think maybe at best - -No news on Silvio today, as in like - -he didn’t get his test score from his SAT today.
IF he did get it and passed it - -I’m sure we would of heard SOMETHING by now it’s 12 :00 CST - - he would of been all over twitter posting Imma coming now. - yet - -we have nothing.
So I’m thinking turns out he either didn’t get the results today - -OR he got the results and it WASN’T GOOD. - -ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY
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@jayballer54 I understand that there might be a few other items that need to happen in addition to the SAT/ACT Results. Even if he passes, there is no guarantee he comes.
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So I just checked DeSousa twitter. No I didn’t tweet anything to him , I didn’t tweet anything period BUT
I read a tweet not from DeSousa but from a individual from Kansas hoops chat it read: - -Now that Silvio HAS THE SCORES he needs to enroll early it’s still not over yet. - - -But him getting the scores he needed today was a must if he wanted any chance at playing now.
From the individual Kansas hoops chat he said: - Silvio has told me that he had got the SAT scores he needed to enroll early at KU.
More hoops to jump through BUT this was huge for Coach Self he said.
Hmmm , sounds pretty good - Soooo? he got his scores? - - ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY
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jayballer54 said:
So I just checked DeSousa twitter. No I didn’t tweet anything to him , I didn’t tweet anything period BUT
I read a tweet not from DeSousa but from a individual from Kansas hoops chat it read: - -Now that Silvio HAS THE SCORES he needs to enroll early it’s still not over yet. - - -But him getting the scores he needed today was a must if he wanted any chance at playing now.
Hmmm? - -so he passed his SAT sound like. - -ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY
This is the same guy, think what anyone will of him direct messaging Silvio, that broke the initial news that Silvio wanted to enroll early. So pretty safe to say Silvio told him directly.
There is still some more stuff to do before he can play though.
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BShark said:
jayballer54 said:
So I just checked DeSousa twitter. No I didn’t tweet anything to him , I didn’t tweet anything period BUT
I read a tweet not from DeSousa but from a individual from Kansas hoops chat it read: - -Now that Silvio HAS THE SCORES he needs to enroll early it’s still not over yet. - - -But him getting the scores he needed today was a must if he wanted any chance at playing now.
Hmmm? - -so he passed his SAT sound like. - -ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY
This is the same guy, think what anyone will of him direct messaging Silvio, that broke the initial news that Silvio wanted to enroll early. So pretty safe to say Silvio told him directly.
There is still some more stuff to do before he can play though.
ya, I think probably you and I both seen the same from the same site. - Some on there giving him hell saying quit talking to Silvio direct right? some were asking why they hadn’t seen anything anywhere else and like some said probably Silvio woun’t say anything till after school - -makes sense then Ku will follow that up. - -ROCK CHALK ALLD AY LONG BABY
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FWIW, here is some news. Sounds legit but who knows.
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Need him.
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@jayballer54 Didn’t read other posts on this but I understand he got his test scores and they were adequate for admission to KU
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Is this the famous @Ralster?
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@HighEliteMajor Indeed, it is. Time to cuss/discuss the Jayhawks…well, mostly cuss the lack of D. Usual ‘soft’ comments from Self.
I must admit, my enthusiasm has definitely taken a hit the last 2 years. Watching 2 alpha dogs, Mason and Josh…lose to Oregon was an extremely bitter pill, especially after watching the 6-dvd set of the 6 game 2008 championship run. I keep waiting for a new ‘standard’ to be set, still hasnt happened. Current team has their work cut out for them.
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So. Cunliffe becomes eligible against Nebraska and, after practicing a full year with the Jayhawks, plays two minutes. TWO!
The football player turned basketball big has yet to see the floor.
I have little hope that either Silvio or Billy will impact this years club.
HCBS has his rotation and it will be tough to crack…
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@Gorilla72 Preston will
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So I taking it as since we have heard no more, then that the little scoop about DeSousa getting the grades he needed off his last SAT test must of been false.
Haven’t heard anything more from anywhere, not of the LJW off his twitter I haven’t seen anything about getting the grades - so that must of all been false huh? - - ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY
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The biggest impact we need should come from our guards. We wouldn’t have won either of those two loss games by having Billy or Silvio. The problems we had were guard related.
Having one or both of these players should only help us. There will be times when we play tough post players and we need to be deeper.
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The TV announcers mentioned we are still waiting for his scores. But who knows if they are just talking BS or not. The announcers for the Nebraska game really sucked. And they were pro-Nebraska and made that obvious throughout the game.
I recall that one guy going on and on… saying he hasn’t been to a game like that for years… where the crowd gets so involved and so enthusiastic. It was showing pans of the crowd while he said that and no one was clapping, some fans looked like they were going to fall asleep. I think fans showed up because they found out their new football coach was going to be there. Ha… did you see that? Their football coach showed up and “stole the show” away from their basketball program?
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the test scores are 1 part of what’s needed, more information is also needed from Angola. Remember Cheick and the NCAA cluster hump?
http://www.kansascity.com/sports/college/big-12/university-of-kansas/article189811354.html
even if he does get cleared. The most I would hope for is him being serviceable by march, but the experience gained would be huge with next years team looking very young.
I think the only player that would make a difference this year is Billy since he is already familiar with the system.
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@drgnslayr Funny you say that about the announcers. I was so relieved we didn’t have Dope head Walton or One eyed Dickie, I actually enjoyed their commentary. I didn’t pick up a bias.
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There are three things that need to happen for DeSouza to be able to enroll at the break. His test score must meet minimum requirements; this apparently is done. He needs to complete course work at his current school with passing grades and graduate; this is yet to be determined since schools are not quite out yet but likely will happen, Last, his complete transcript need to be sent to the NCAA and approved like any other student and this might be the biggest issue. He had not originally planned to join KU until next fall so he probably thought he had plenty of time and now we are in Diallo territory. Can’t really blame the NCAA if the transcript have not been sent in a timely manner.
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@KUSTEVE I am with you. After suffering through a night with Bill Walton, I’d rate these two Fox guys at least 4 star. Networks gotta limit Walton’s flight tickets to the Midwest!
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Has no one else shared this link yet?
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I saw an article where Self says he is preparing to have both De Sousa and Preston for big 12 play.
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If De Sousa, Preston and Cunliffe are all available after January 1, this is a much different team (in a lot of good ways). We can basically throw out what happened prior to now, because that’s three high level players becoming available.
That A&M game gets very interesting as far as evaluating the ceiling of KU.
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justanotherfan said:
If De Sousa, Preston and Cunliffe are all available after January 1, this is a much different team (in a lot of good ways). We can basically throw out what happened prior to now, because that’s three high level players becoming available.
That A&M game gets very interesting as far as evaluating the ceiling of KU.
Well it seems like anyways we know know obviously Sam is with us now - - sounds almost a certainty that Silvio is on board - -now I just wish things would turn out positive for Billy - just don’t seem to be hearing anything on Billy would be a big addition. ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY
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Well my friends hope everyone ha been good so we an get some really nice Christmas presents.
Guys I just get this feel now after reading some and following articles , it just sure sounds like that we might be coming close to finding out about Billy Coach saying he is preparing for Big 12 play with the scenario of Both Billy and DeSousa being here.
I’m telling ya right now if we get this two on Board it is going to change this team dramatically - -I feel it - -I feel something good is on the horizon - there is a storm brewing - - brewing for the league that is. - -ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY
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I agree with your three steps needed for Silvio.
But I fear the following response from the NCAA -
Their “5 mins” can be “5 months.” We like to think we have their attention now, after some of our recent issues with their lack of speed. But the reality is… we have NO power over the speed they operate at.
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@jayballer54 I got goosebumps reading your post. We are going to tear this league up with those two plus Cundiffe on board.
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In all fairness, over 180,000 potential student athletes register with the NCAA every year and the great majority that submit a complete application in a timely manner are processed without any issues. Now, if the application is not submitted on time or is incomplete, then it is not fair to expect the NCAA to process it in time like the others.
I used to have a sign on my office door that read…Lack of planning on YOUR part does not constitute an emergency on MY part. Perhaps prospects, particularly foreign prospects, should not wait until the last minute to start the process and expect a quick turnaround, it is not fair to the ones that follow the rules.
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@jayballer54 Makes some sense. Self has all but said it.
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@wilson Bingo…this is where the big chill happens by the NCAA. They’ve already frozen or will stall Preston, and now they will sit on Silvio’s eligibility. Once KU completes it’s investigation, the NCAA will then have to provide a final ruling. I guarantee you they will take as much time as KU took with Billy.
I will be shocked if Preston and Silvio are cleared quickly.
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So: today, this situation is completely unchanged from the moment Preston disappeared into the Chronosimplastic Infindibulum, except for Sosinski getting a few minutes.
Cunliffe has shown up exactly as planned is being slowly worked in.
De Sousa, despite my doubts about him being able to improve test scores significantly, is on track to get here near January 1, after which he will be an 17-18 year old big man that will begin learning the offense and trying to get in D1 condition.
Regarding Preston, Self is still saying believe–believe a student-athlete with suspected vehicle ownership issues, will turn out not to have such issues. Believe Preston will likely be back.
But let us recall some things.
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Preston was neither starting, nor lighting things up, when he disappeared and would take a good month month to get back to that level and another month or two to become a credible 20-25 mpg big.
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17-18 year old big men that neither know the plays, nor have ever achieved D1 grade physical condition, are not likely to be able to do more than back up a few minutes each half.
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Cunliffe, despite my early optimism, is a 10-15 mpg back up until next season.
So: our starting 5 is our starting five for the season.
Preston and De Sousa jointly buy us 5-10 minutes of back up each half for Doke.
Cunliffe buys us 5-10 minutes more rest per game for our wings.
My point here is this: how good we can be is how good you think our current starters are with reasonable back ups by March.
Self has been building to this scenario, not toward another kind of team.
The reason for optimism is that with reasonable backups by March, the starters can play a 4-1set at a fairly rapid pace. That should prevent defenses from hamstringing them.
The reason for pessimism is the flaws in the games of some of the starters seem likely to be there in March just the same as they are now.
But either way, with a long bench, Self will be able to begin to substitute a little to make points with players that are not listening.
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Here is an article by Andy Katz about KU and the possible play of Preston and De Souza on the NCAA website.
Here is another by Jeff Goodman about KU with comments from other coaches about KU’s issues.
By the way, DeSouza turned 19 in Octoberand Preston turned 20 also in October, not quite 17-18 year old kids.
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Below is from an article on KU Hoops written by G Bedore
“He was really active and good at practice today,” said Self, who is of the opinion a decision on whether Preston can play this season will be rendered soon. “I don’t anticipate him playing (against Stanford). I do anticipate us getting very close to knowing if and when he will be able to play. I’m pretty optimistic. Our people are optimistic. It’s at the point now it will be out of our hands and somebody else will make the decision (the NCAA).”
Asked how much Preston could play in the Big 12 opener against Texas and/or ensuing league games if he’s deemed eligible to play soon, Self said: “I don’t think he’s done enough for 20, 25 minutes (in a game) but I think in a couple of weeks (he could do that) certainly.”
Self said if IMG Academy senior for Silvio De Sousa is declared eligible soon, “I think he could play some. I think that it would be more of a plugged-in situation until he gets comfortable.”
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@jaybate-1-0 If it helps any I believe Silvio is 19 year old. (Or just slightly younger than Svi as the announcers will likely point out).
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Call me crazy but I’m starting to get the feeling we end up with both of our boys. - Read the article from the LJW this morning and Coach sounds pretty confident even with Billy, says he doesn’t think it’s going to be long - seems like ya it’s going to be a 2nd semester thing for both. Said it will take a bit for adjustment for the guys maybe a couple of weeks for Silvio and a little less then that for Billy. - -I smell the " ROCK " cookin up something really good for the Crimson and Blue. - -ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY
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I used to have a sign on my office door that read…Lack of planning on YOUR part does not constitute an emergency on MY part
I still have that sign hanging up. Plus another one that says a $100 surcharge will be added to your order if you mention that you found it cheaper online.
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I miss the days when people would go out of their way to help one another. Apparently I’m old fashioned.
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dylans said:
I miss the days when people would go out of their way to help one another. Apparently I’m old fashioned.
Who is needing help? - -ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY
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@jayballer54 who doesn’t?
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Crimsonorblue22 said:
@jayballer54 who doesn’t?
lol, - - -I need -LOTS lol - - -ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY
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Good post.
I heard this morning that the NCAA won’t take any time at all to qualify DeSousa. It’s a straight forward deal and he has the same process all incoming scholarship athletes have. It should be a “rubber stamp” moment.
Billy is a different story. My faith is in our compliance department. They know that “time is of the essence” so their info gathering and forms will be gone over carefully to prevent getting held up by the NCAA by having them request additional info. One of those request moments could cost him another month of play.
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The whole Billy Preston thing … he’s kind of like Yoda communicating from the nether world. Just kind of a hologram. Is he a hologram on the bench? Has anyone really touched him to make sure?
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Another website said that we expect to have news on both by the 26th. Silvio for sure by then, Preston is a maybe still, but that if it isn’t by then, soon after.
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JayHawkFanToo said:
Here is an article by Andy Katz about KU and the possible play of Preston and De Souza on the NCAA website.
Here is another by Jeff Goodman about KU with comments from other coaches about KU’s issues.
By the way, DeSouza turned 19 in Octoberand Preston turned 20 also in October, not quite 17-18 year old kids.
I am positive you will obediently agree that the difference between 17-18 and 19 approaches absolute zero, when a player has never been through D1conditioning, does not know the plays, has not played a second with his teammates and is changing climates from subtropical Florida to Kansas in January.
I am waiting for submissive agreement!
HOWLING!!!
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dylans said:
@jaybate-1-0 If it helps any I believe Silvio is 19 year old. (Or just slightly younger than Svi as the announcers will likely point out).
I know u mean well, but it doesn’t help me much.
How many years will 19 year old Svi have been practicing and playing for KU on January 1?
How many years will 19 year old Silvio have been practicing and playing for KU on January 1?
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@JayHawkFanToo I used to have that sign too!
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@jaybate-1.0 None, but 19 is much closer to full grown adult than 17. That will help in this case. It won’t make him an instant success, but good God man we’re throwing Lightfoot out there. I want to see something resembling a grown man in the post again even if he isn’t quiet ready for prime time this year.
I’m almost to the point of giving up on this season anyways and his early addition and seasoning is going to be big for next season. I said almost - there is a faint glimmer of hope in these possible additions.
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@jaybate-1.0 I think Svi was brought in too young and it hurt his development.
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I read in a KC Star article that HCBS said the NCAA eligibility offices are closed next week and reopen Jan 3. If true, KU needs to hear by Friday or wait?
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Many appear discouraged about the lack of depth.
I am discouraged about the recruiting dynamics that lead us to this lack of depth.
I don’t expect next year’s seeming greater numbers to really solve our problems either, as so many do.
I will be very happy to get Preston and De Sousa this season.
Next season brings transfers and not one but the sudden, inexplicable anomaly of two 5-Star PGs. This all fills me with apprehension about the baggage that may hit the carousel next year.
As for this season, I am just advocating for tempered expectations regarding what the newbies second semester will actually enable.
All this team really needs from the newbies are subs, so our starters can play hard most of the game.
The newbies could supply that after a month or two.
More than that I doubt.
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@jaybate-1.0 I am discouraged about the recruiting dynamics that lead us to this lack of depth.
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