DEVON DOTSON WHOSE COMMITMENT TO KANSAS WE NEVER DOUBTED
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How in the world did the UDK editors let that get published? It is a non story for right now. They got a general document back that basically said we don’t have to give you anything right now. UDK students trying to get people using “Gotcha” journalism tactics by saying this stupid letter somehow contradicts what the school has been saying. So dumb. So so so dumb. This is damn near High School level journalism and we are supposed to be a top Journalism school in the country.
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Crimsonorblue22 said:
Later in the letter, FBI Section Chief David M. Hardy states, “This is a standard notification that is given to all our requesters and should not be taken as an indication that excluded records do, or do not, exist.”
This is a big nothingburger. Its a shame though because the people spreading the “story” are doing damage regardless of the fact that there is no reason to fear implications towards KU in the “story.” Fake news at its finest.
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@RockkChalkk Stupid college kids trying to make a name for themselves. I hope that the adviser who oversees them at the very least told them the backlash that SHOULD come from publishing something that really has no merit.
This, if it was anything, was a small clue to a bigger story and shouldn’t have ever been published on it’s own. The had to decide whether they should publish this big nothingbuger now and get a few thousand reads or if they should follow this down into the rabbit hole and potentially get nothing. They took the easy way out. Just a poor, sad job done by the UDK.
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The Kansan asked for “all documents and communications within this investigation related to the University of Kansas and any of its sponsorship deals with Adidas or any investigation of Kansas basketball coaches.”
What were they expecting?
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Literally any school, especially Adidas schools right now could have their paper make the same request and get the same standard “no” that the UDK just got.
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@BShark I’m honestly embarrassed that they published it. Like embarrassed for them. And now the Journalism school as a whole. Must have started a new class, Fake News 101. Where we teach you how to take an official document that really means nothing, and spin it into a major conspiracy.
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@Kcmatt7 This is brutal for the kid. Like, what was he doing? I get reporting news but literally they asked for ALL DOCUMENTS AND COMMUNICATIONS or bits on investigation of coaches within an ACTIVE INVESTIGATION. Again, what were they hoping for? Never going to get it. Even if some documents were available, this is the government we are talking about here. What’s easier to do? Go dig up a document or use literally any excuse to give a 99% boilerplate response. Then to top it off they got rock hard that the FBI acknowledged them with a boilerplate response so they slanted the story to look like they had something.
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Ayala never visited Oregon so he’s a Terp!
So his decision has to be good news for us right? That he’s going to Maryland no matter what happens Friday
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BeddieKU23 said:
Ayala never visited Oregon so he’s a Terp!
So his decision has to be good news for us right? That he’s going to Maryland no matter what happens Friday
Yeah I saw this too. It’s definitely not a bad thing.
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@BShark Exactly what I was thinking. This is one of those investigations that will literally never close because it is so massive that they can say it is just always ongoing and not have to bother with doing anything besides sending a letter to anyone who inquires.
I want someone to do this for each individual school now and see what comes back. It is just an online form on the FBI website. I may try to when I get home from work.
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@Kcmatt7 let it go, don’t be them?
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@BeddieKU23 Rumour mill time
So, my Team Takeover guy, who couldn’t care less about Md recruiting, just says to me, “Yall got a point guard”. I was like, who? He says “Dotson”. I’m not taking it to the bank, but just another log on the fire.
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@Crimsonorblue22 Well it would be really funny if you inquired about UK, and got the same letter right? I just want someone to discredit their story, but not by just saying nothing. By shoving it in their face. These kids/future “journalists” need to know that clickbait articles are lazy bullsh*t. And they should be punished and ridiculed for it.
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@Kcmatt7 go to their website
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Shoot. ESPN is running the same crap that the UDK stirred up as a headline. Poor timing. I hope this crap as it pertains to KU gets cleared up fast (the way I want it to go).
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BShark said:
@BeddieKU23 Rumour mill time
So, my Team Takeover guy, who couldn’t care less about Md recruiting, just says to me, “Yall got a point guard”. I was like, who? He says “Dotson”. I’m not taking it to the bank, but just another log on the fire.
Saw it, should hear about 30 more
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If Dotson has made up his mind, only he and the family know. They’re not talking to anyone until tomorrow night. I’m sticking with KU because I haven’t seen or heard anything that suggests Maryland passed KU.
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BeddieKU23 said:
BShark said:
@BeddieKU23 Rumour mill time
So, my Team Takeover guy, who couldn’t care less about Md recruiting, just says to me, “Yall got a point guard”. I was like, who? He says “Dotson”. I’m not taking it to the bank, but just another log on the fire.
Saw it, should hear about 30 more
Same guy followed up on it, doubled down.
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BShark said:
BeddieKU23 said:
BShark said:
@BeddieKU23 Rumour mill time
So, my Team Takeover guy, who couldn’t care less about Md recruiting, just says to me, “Yall got a point guard”. I was like, who? He says “Dotson”. I’m not taking it to the bank, but just another log on the fire.
Saw it, should hear about 30 more
Same guy followed up on it, doubled down.
I’m waiting for his triple double
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BShark said:
BeddieKU23 said:
Ayala never visited Oregon so he’s a Terp!
So his decision has to be good news for us right? That he’s going to Maryland no matter what happens Friday
Yeah I saw this too. It’s definitely not a bad thing.
This whole thing written from our wonderful little paper and the FBI whole investigation going on - -whether we are actually involved in anything or not couldn’t have come a possible worse time. - -You know how people take these things and just run wild like a stripped ass ape with them if they think they can drag us/ or any school other then their own.
I worry that my boys folks are going to have some big questions - -2nd/3rd/4th thoughts - -this might just kill any recruiting we have going whether truth or not. - - ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY
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@jayballer54 The crappy thing is if the evidence exonerates KU they still can’t release it. Sucks hearing it every 15 minutes on ESPN radio though. Slanderous without more info.Implicated and investigated are two different things.
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@Crimsonorblue22 what do you mean? I’ve been on the website. And that story is the front page top line.
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@Kcmatt7 make a comment on their twitter page
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@dylans “Slanderous without more info.” Exactly. It is the news media, it is ESPN. And the issue is not reporting it. The issue as with nearly all other one sided media accounts, including ESPN’s not stop slobbering over the national anthem stuff, is reporting and providing only one side of the story, or giving a cursory, limited, or unintelligible reference to the other side. And not providing a reasonable explanation (in this case) of what their sensationalistic reporting means.
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The lazy and biased media now appears to be in a state of publishing anything to get clicks regardless of whether the story has any foundation. It is the proverbial …it is easier to ask for forgiveness than to ask for permission…or in this case…it is easier to publish a story with no facts to back it up and then issue a retraction on the back pages at a later date than to get the story right in the first place. It seems to be the current status of most main stream media and now extended to minor publications. The old style journalism is now a thing of the past.
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their BS makes me worry about my boy’s decision tomorrow now - -not getting a good feeling now - -this can change everything for him and his folks. Might be the kiss of death for us and Grimes also. GREAT.- - - ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY
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jayballer54 said:
their BS makes me worry about my boy’s decision tomorrow now - -not getting a good feeling now - -this can change everything for him and his folks. Might be the kiss of death for us and Grimes also. GREAT.- - - ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY
Grimes is a super smart kid. Just fyi.
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@BeddieKU23 Not sure if you saw this yet. Quiiiiite the back track after the double down!
So now my guy says “Ayala”. I’m like, no shit, what about Dotson? He says, “I heard his name too, but definitely Ayala”.
Personally, I find it hard to believe both would come. There must be buzz about Dotson to Md cause otherwise this dude never would’ve brought it up, but don’t know if I trust what he’s hearing is fact or kids talking. I’m sure Jeff and Josh have heard all kinds of stuff from their local sources and are better at separating fact from rumor than rest of us.
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BShark said:
jayballer54 said:
their BS makes me worry about my boy’s decision tomorrow now - -not getting a good feeling now - -this can change everything for him and his folks. Might be the kiss of death for us and Grimes also. GREAT.- - - ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY
Grimes is a super smart kid. Just fyi.
Boy you got that right. - -It took me one interview , listening to him talk and I could just tell - - -this kid sounds like a bright bright kid, also seems like a very polite respectful type of kid not that means squat but still - - just saying you can just see he is a very smart kid. - -ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY
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BShark said:
@BeddieKU23 Not sure if you saw this yet. Quiiiiite the back track after the double down!
So now my guy says “Ayala”. I’m like, no shit, what about Dotson? He says, “I heard his name too, but definitely Ayala”.
Personally, I find it hard to believe both would come. There must be buzz about Dotson to Md cause otherwise this dude never would’ve brought it up, but don’t know if I trust what he’s hearing is fact or kids talking. I’m sure Jeff and Josh have heard all kinds of stuff from their local sources and are better at separating fact from rumor than rest of us.
Thanks. The person knows absolutely nothing
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@jayballer54 My main point is that he and his mom are smart enough to see that the article means nothing. Don’t think it impacts him.
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BeddieKU23 said:
BShark said:
@BeddieKU23 Not sure if you saw this yet. Quiiiiite the back track after the double down!
So now my guy says “Ayala”. I’m like, no shit, what about Dotson? He says, “I heard his name too, but definitely Ayala”.
Personally, I find it hard to believe both would come. There must be buzz about Dotson to Md cause otherwise this dude never would’ve brought it up, but don’t know if I trust what he’s hearing is fact or kids talking. I’m sure Jeff and Josh have heard all kinds of stuff from their local sources and are better at separating fact from rumor than rest of us.
Thanks. The person knows absolutely nothing
Yeah…had me worried for a second but LOL.
Supposedly fwiw the coaches do not know yet. They should be called tomorrow apparently. This is according to Ermann.
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Well it’s close to - - - -T - minus 24 hours to decision day. - - This is my boy - -we all know I’ve been on the Dotson train from practically day 1 - -I’m gonna keep riding the Dotson train till we get to the depot. - -Well maybe with just a lil bit of teensy weensie bit of hesitancy - -just in case got my bag in my hand - Na I’m gonna ride it out till the end " BRING IT HOME " - -Devon - -ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY
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Well I’m starting to waver, seems like a lot of things pointing to Maryland true or not. - - People saying Devon starting to follow Anthony Cowan the present Maryland PG now - -plus the video dude - - plus his dad liking of Devon following the Maryland point guard.
On top of his parents or mom wanting him to stay close to home - -plus the crap with the FBI - -Plus Turgeon saying they will take both Ayala & Dotson - -As much as I want to believe - -I’m just close to the edge of the cliff. this is going to suck - BUT if it does then time goes on - -KU goes on - -BUT it also enhances what people say why can’t we close on elite Guards - -ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY
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Someone just made a CB pick for Dotson. And it was to… KANSAS! I dunno if its based on anything but can only be a good sign.
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RockkChalkk said:
Someone just made a CB pick for Dotson. And it was to… KANSAS! I dunno if its based on anything but can only be a good signYa I just saw that too. - That is the 1st CB movement I’ve seen on anything since Devon having both Coaches - -might be something starting to trend - -maybe not I think he called it at like 7;26 I believe so pretty new pick. - - we shall see hoping. - -ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY
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The guy that just made the CB for KU is Eric Hamford future 150. - -The only one that I can see that has put in a CB for Maryland on this is Dain Erin - -dude has a 50 % ration at predicting. - -Who knows? - -It’s all a huge guessing game. – just got to keep my fingers crossed. guess we will know in about 24 hours. - -ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY
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this recruitment will be a fun one to remember if its KU. At least its over today.
KU would move from #20 to # 3 in team recruiting rankings.
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BeddieKU23 said:
this recruitment will be a fun one to remember if its KU. At least its over today.
KU would move from #20 to # 3 in team recruiting rankings.
Ya there have been a lot of up’s and downs in this recruitment. - A lot of speculation , more then usual it seems. - From oh we got this , he is coming, he is ours to I dunno , I think it’s Maryland OR not to sure , to people saying things from twitter. - It is finished at 6 tonight.
I’ve even found myself wavering on my boy. On one hand I have been seeing - -hearing all these things about Maryland - to on the other a lot of the same about KU , how Devon actually wants to come to KU - -MOM wants him to stay closer to home , we all know how a lot of those work out. - -Either way whatever happens KU was fine BEFORE the Devon scenario & KU will be fine AFTER the Devon scenario - -still sticking with my gut in the end run - Still telling me - -we got this - Devon will land here at KU. - -ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY
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Well now we are screwed. - -A friend just reminded me - -It’s Friday - -the 13th on Devon decision day – GREAT. lol - -ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONNG BABY
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I suggest you have a few totties in the next 11 hours. Enjoy the day! I think its going to end up just fine
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Now that his decision day is here. I think a lot of us have seen just how desperate Maryland wants to be considered a big-time program and respected nationally. They are desperate for Dotson, its why a good amount of their fans have gone crazy over this kid. The rumors, inside info etc is really crazy with this one. I’m sure very little of it has been true every step of the way. With their football program in a similar situation as KU’s Basketball is life there.
If the transparency that the Dotson’s have given everyone matters his relationship with KU and the one he didn’t have with Maryland until this spring/summer should prevail.
We offered early, we got him on campus on his dime as a Junior during his basketball season.
We showed up front and center at all of his games this summer. We went to HS games, we flew in to check on him constantly. We spent more time at his AAU events (UA & Adidas) then the normal slug-fest at Peach Jam. KU made a concentrated effort to show him they really need him, not just want him.
If its about staying close to home and playing with his friend then that’s his decision he has to live with. I can understand the comfort level for kids making this big decision and knowing he’s got someone who has his back that he has a personal relationship with. When I went to College I wanted to end up with my closest friends. I absolutely understand having that familiarity with someone.
If he’s an NBA player no matter where he lands isn’t going to stop him, its up to him. Cowan at Maryland and Moore at KU are not going to stand in his way.
KU certainly has some advantages for Dotson over Maryland but as fans those things might not matter to him as much. I do think this recruitment would have been over had he felt what Kansas had to offer him was a slam dunk over everyone else.
In the end this is a battle that is up to Bill Self, not anyone else.
Did he give Devon and his parents the comfort level they were seeking? Did he get the relationship to a point where it was more then basketball? You would think all the time they have put into this one that they did. Was his message on how they would use Devon and his statement that he’d start at KU from Day-1 hit home?
A Hall of Fame coach said you’d start here how can you turn your back on that? I guess we will find out
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@BeddieKU23 Well said. If KU misses, can’t blame the staff on this one, they put in the work.
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BShark said:
@BeddieKU23 Well said. If KU misses, can’t blame the staff on this one, they put in the work.
I still think this is a Bill Self vs Mark Turgeon battle. Devon ultimately has to play for either coach so which coach sold him on their vision for him (and the team) the best.
Until recently I projected Dotson to be a 3-4 year player. After his summer that time-frame likely became 2-3 years. I don’t think he’ll need all 4. I think he’ll stay at least two to maximize his potential draft stock so who’s coaching him is very important here, I think more important then depth chart and who he’s playing with.
Self is usually really damn good at selling his pitch but the PG position is definitely been his thorn. Turgeon has landed 4 Top 100 Composite PG’s in the last 5 recruiting cycles… Self, 1 if we include Conner cry baby (Frank & Devonte were both outside top 100 on Composite although some sites had them ranked higher). He also landed two via transfer.
This is on our HOF Coach to win this battle
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BeddieKU23 said:
I suggest you have a few totties in the next 11 hours. Enjoy the day! I think its going to end up just fine
lol, ya that is exactly what I need lol. - -maybe something a little stiffer lol - -maybe a few shot glasses of some brandy lol. - - then when decision time comes – ha , I won’t care lmao. - -ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY
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@BeddieKU23 Was Quitter listed as a PG on any of the services? I know 247 had him as a 2 guard.
ESPN not ranking post grads killed Frank and Devonte’s ranks. Frank in particular. 247 had him at #52. I remember the reaction to Graham was extremely positive, unless you include dumbasses that don’t know basketball and obvious trolls. NC State fans were pissed they didn’t get him. All people around NC and hoops in general were saying KU got a really good player.
All that said, it would be super nice to land a PG or two that are consensus top 30.
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@BeddieKU23 well come on over. It IS the 13th and Friday - -we can share some hot totties and sweat this out together lol. - - My boy better not let me down make me look bad lol. - -ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY
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BShark said:
@BeddieKU23 Was Quitter listed as a PG on any of the services? I know 247 had him as a 2 guard.
ESPN not ranking post grads killed Frank and Devonte’s ranks. Frank in particular. 247 had him at #52. I remember the reaction to Graham was extremely positive, unless you include dumbasses that don’t know basketball and obvious trolls. NC State fans were pissed they didn’t get him. All people around NC and hoops in general were saying KU got a really good player.
All that said, it would be super nice to land a PG or two that are consensus top 30.
I think quittercamp was always listed as a SG and I included Morsell for Maryland who’s got 2 ways skills as well. Figured I’d just lump them in for comparison.
Yeah I wasn’t sold on the Mason signing to be honest at first. After I was able to find information on him I thought he’d at least be a rotation player at some point. Boy that was an understatement of the century.
I knew about Graham. I actually went to a Brewster game when KU was interested in him and I was stunned that he almost went to Appalachian St in the first place. My friend that is a Brewster alum and knows the coach Jason Smith pretty well would give me info on Devonte. I knew we were getting a good one before the national media knew of him
