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KUSTEVE said:
@BShark I think the outbidding scheme involved Little instead of Quickley. I mean, everybody knows Kentucky pays their players, but it still has to be proven. So, i was giddy, hoping it was quickley, but it looks like we’ll have to wait to hear the kentucky sordid details. It shouldn’t take very long.
See my earlier post. 100% the one named in the report was Little and it was between Zona and Miami. The Quickley with Miami thing is a currently unsupported claim.
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So two years into an investigation and now a couple days later with much more being exposed and the only maybe with Kansas is Selby? The same Selby that was first committed elsewhere and we already know had some impermissible benefits issues. This seems pretty good so far.
Minor concern with Newman and Miss St but there wouldn’t be any wrong doing by Kansas in that situation. It would just pretty much derail the current season if Malik can’t play of course.
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Is there anything they are looking into as far as Miss St?
Seems like fans just throwing darts at the board and picking any kid. Malik’s father was an alum at Miss St…
I know that is a roster chalk full of “how the heck did these Top 100 kids land here” So it certainly fits the bill, like Auburn did in that regard
Not concerned about Selby seems how the NCAA already derailed him 7 years ago.
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"For those wondering about the FBI report’s coding…Courtesy of the Phog
Universities: 1 - Auburn 2 - South Carolina 3 - Oklahoma State 4 - Arizona 5 - USC 6 - Louisville 7 - Miami (FL)
Players 1 - Likely Mustapha Heron, Auburn 2 - Likely Austin Wiley OR Danjel Purifoy, Auburn 3 - P.J. Dozier, NBA via South Carolina 4 - Jeffrey Carroll, NBA via Oklahoma State 5 - Jahvon Quinerly, Arizona commit 6 - unspecified Arizona player 7 - unspecified Arizona player 8 - Charles O’Bannon Jr., USC 9 - De’Anthony Melton, USC 10 - Brian Bowen, Louisville 11 - Balsa Koprivica, Louisville target 12 - Nassir Little, Miami target"
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I’d like to thank Bama and Zona and the Ville for giving us something interesting to talk about leading up to late night. First time in months this board has come alive!
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Surprised the Arizona players haven’t been confirmed yet. Seems how Book recruited the east Rawle Alkins, Brandon Randolph would fit that description. Randolph landing at Arizona always seemed to be out of place to me
Alkins is out 3-4 months with a broken foot now too. I’ll be surprised if Ayton isn’t linked to something like the ASM thing.
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Looks like the news trail is slowing downnn. Now we wait for the random news report…
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@BeddieKU23 more subpoenas will come. Have to sort through all the fraud after that though. And figure out who knew. What invoices were fake. All that forensic accounting takes a lot of time and effort.
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Curious that Ben Simmons and LSU is not in the mix. That was a head scratcher.
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@bskeet There were some family ties. Not sure if Nike schools are a part of this whole fiasco, but LSU is Nike.
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@bskeet Ben Simmons godfather was on staff at LSU.
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Well, Well , Well. here we go guys. - 1st and foremost let me preface this by saying this is coming off the Rupp Rafters Kentucky Board
A story linked between KU & Zion Williamson, Reportingly a story coming from some place called Chat sports.com
It reads that the Adidas Rep that is facing fraud charges that steered the 2017 recruit to Louisville ( Brian Bowen ) was also trying to influence 2018 Super Recruit to commit to Kansas. We know who that is ( Zion ) . multiple sources told chat sports this afternoon.
The sources have been independently sourced. ( One inside the big 12 with Coaching ties to the SEC - - I think we all should know if this is truly the case who that would be -the Oklahoma State asst right? and another recruiting expert close to South Carolina AAU basketball. - – and both provided nearly identical information.
Story says the Adidas employee that was arrested on Tuesday had been taking a similar approach with the prospect on behalf of Kansas. The sources both of them say it was un clear if anyone on the Kansas Coaching Staff knew about Adidas interfering in the recruitment of Williamson.
The story talk about how Williamson was supposed to visit Kentucky but Cancelled, and waiting to see, Williamson has a scheduled visit to KU this weekend but waiting to see if he ends up going to KU opening event.
Earlier today Williamson shared the following message on his Instagram ( Today ain’t the day man , sad day for the family , no drama today please )
I’m holding judgement on this whole thing. - -Like one poster said all these big time news sources digging for information but yet some place call chat sports has got this? - - hmmm, but IF - -and a big IF if this turns out to be true but yet the Coaching Staff didn’t know anything then I would strongly suggest we put the skids on the recruitment of Zion way to risky. - - -what ya all think. - -you can read the entire story off the Uk Boards under KU and Zion Story of course Uk fans eating this up. - -ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY
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They’re probably giddy just like we’d be giddy for hearing crap about Kentuck. I guess we’ll see how it plays out. Doesn’t sound real substantial right now.
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@jayballer54 posted by matt scott
I’m totally shocked that a South Carolina, Frank Martin fan and Duke lover would write this. #NOTATALL https://t.co/XZfABzNZCL https://t.co/GVpDo9wgKT
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@3genhawk Is that who wrote this? - I never heard of this site. Like I said I’m not putting a lot of worth in it - -& Kentucky idiots just thriving on it lol. - -ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY
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Considering how late KU entered the picture with Zion, I wouldn’t be at all shocked if there’s some truth to Adidas trying to push Zion to KU.
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@jayballer54 1st link is the story, 2nd is the guy who wrote it.
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@jayballer54 I’ve never heard of the author, the website, or the new poster who used one of their first posts to share this with us.
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@KUSTEVE I shared it you goof lol. I know you know me lol, but the site that put this out - - ummm no. - -ROCK CHALK ALL ADY LONG BABY
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@KUSTEVE That is because It’s fake news.
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@BShark Well we can always hope. I don’t really believe there is much substance to it. - -ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY
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jayballer54 said:
@BShark Well we can always hope. I don’t really believe there is much substance to it. - -ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY
No real sources. Hack writer that is a Duke fan. Lol.
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I asked this before. - -Let me ask again , if it came down to it and you had to choose , which one would you rather have - -Romeo Langford - OR Quinten Grimes. - -Me myself?- -I think I would go with Grimes more of a complete player. - It has been stated that some things come to easy for Langford and has a tendency to try and slide - take some plays off - -Grimes bust his ass so is it? - -ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY
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I mean would it be surprising if Adidas was trying to make sure Zion went to an Adidas school? Not really. As long as KU wasn’t directly involved I do not care.
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@BShark Oh ya? - - for real? - -ok Then I can sleep tonight lmao. - -ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY
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@jayballer54 Yeah, click the profile of the writer for lols.
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Random thought
Notice how Self and co would cast a wide net with offers? Perhaps Self knew how the system worked, wasn’t directly involved but by casting a wide net you don’t close any doors. So if a kid is shifted to Adidas, KU is in it.
Just some more hopeful thinking.
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Langford is a likely OAD while Grimes is not. KU might get more from Langford in his one year but Grimes might be the overall better choice since will stay for 3-4 years.
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JayHawkFanToo said:
Langford is a likely OAD while Grimes is not. KU might get more from Langford in his one year but Grimes might be the overall better choice since will stay for 3-4 years.
Don’t sleep on Grimes’ NBA potential though. If he showed out better PG skills I could see him being only a 2 year guy.
I’d take Grimes for sure though, if it’s one or the other.
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@BShark makes more sense. Not zeroing in on kids. Just offering based on basketball skill. If you wanna come here or adidas does their thing in the dark without him knowing he’s not in any trouble.
Thing is they are clearly targeting assistant coaches and head coaches are either in the dark or aware and it is an agreement that the assistant coach will just be the fall guy.
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Kcmatt7 said:
@BShark makes more sense. Not zeroing in on kids. Just offering based on basketball skill. If you wanna come here or adidas does their thing in the dark without him knowing he’s not in any trouble.
Thing is they are clearly targeting assistant coaches and head coaches are either in the dark or aware and it is an agreement that the assistant coach will just be the fall guy.
Yep yep yep. If KU coaches are not involved we should be fine. That’s what I’m hoping for and I’ve actually heard some good things in that regard.
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BShark said:
Kcmatt7 said:
@BShark makes more sense. Not zeroing in on kids. Just offering based on basketball skill. If you wanna come here or adidas does their thing in the dark without him knowing he’s not in any trouble.
Thing is they are clearly targeting assistant coaches and head coaches are either in the dark or aware and it is an agreement that the assistant coach will just be the fall guy.
Yep yep yep. If KU coaches are not involved we should be fine. That’s what I’m hoping for and I’ve actually heard some good things in that regard.
Same unless you are a Terrapin fan. They have no 80+ pages going and an absolute obsession that we are paying everyone
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BeddieKU23 said:
BShark said:
Kcmatt7 said:
@BShark makes more sense. Not zeroing in on kids. Just offering based on basketball skill. If you wanna come here or adidas does their thing in the dark without him knowing he’s not in any trouble.
Thing is they are clearly targeting assistant coaches and head coaches are either in the dark or aware and it is an agreement that the assistant coach will just be the fall guy.
Yep yep yep. If KU coaches are not involved we should be fine. That’s what I’m hoping for and I’ve actually heard some good things in that regard.
Same unless you are a Terrapin fan. They have no 80+ pages going and an absolute obsession that we are paying everyone
Lol Maryland fans. I have no doubt KU has landed some guys that got paid by Adidas. Seems like a lot of players get paid. If it’s just pick an Adidas school and KU wins out, I don’t think KU or the coaches can be faulted, by the FBI or the NCAA for that matter. What is the NCAA gonna do? Ban every school?
You know one thing that is really nice? Having walk-ons on the team with rich parents.
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BShark said:
BeddieKU23 said:
BShark said:
Kcmatt7 said:
@BShark makes more sense. Not zeroing in on kids. Just offering based on basketball skill. If you wanna come here or adidas does their thing in the dark without him knowing he’s not in any trouble.
Thing is they are clearly targeting assistant coaches and head coaches are either in the dark or aware and it is an agreement that the assistant coach will just be the fall guy.
Yep yep yep. If KU coaches are not involved we should be fine. That’s what I’m hoping for and I’ve actually heard some good things in that regard.
Same unless you are a Terrapin fan. They have no 80+ pages going and an absolute obsession that we are paying everyone
Lol Maryland fans. I have no doubt KU has landed some guys that got paid by Adidas. Seems like a lot of players get paid. If it’s just pick an Adidas school and KU wins out, I don’t think KU or the coaches can be faulted, by the FBI or the NCAA for that matter. What is the NCAA gonna do? Ban every school?
You know one thing that is really nice? Having walk-ons on the team with rich parents.
I’m sure money has changed hands, it just seems naive to believe otherwise at this point. I do however believe Self is a good person and I don’t believe he has the personality to go that direction by his own doing. I could find out later I’m completely wrong but I do believe he’s one of the few that keeps it clean on his end. If Adidas has helped us in the past I’m sure Nike and Under Armour have the same guilt in their closet.
This situation reminds me of the steroid era in Baseball. Everyone knew it was happening for years upon years and nobody cared until it blew up and some really good baseball players went down for it. Baseball let it happen but then cried out loud when they had to do something about it. This to me is the same in College Basketball. NCAA didn’t have the authority to crack open the cheating/bribes/money funneling in and out for players, families etc but they knew it was there. As long as it didn’t interrupt the cash cow they were never going to do anything and with their limited power they had some deniability to ever do so. The FBI gets involved and the NCAA has its pants down. Now they have to clean up the mess that is left in its wake.
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Read that Self and Norm both play it super straight according to an AAU coach. Not even a whiff of bringing up $.
Edit: Norm was the only KU asst that this AAU coach had dealings with.
Also said KU DOES NOT BASH OTHER SCHOOLS in recruiting, merely does their own pitch.
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Saw that too. I just can’t imagine Self, Norm & Kurtis doing anything outside the lines intentionally. I think Howard is a good guy as well but he certainly hasn’t earned that trust yet that the older guys have.
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Not hard to figure out who player 2 allegedly is.
@Kcmatt7 Did you reply then delete it?
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@BShark I did. Changed what I wanted to say. That was really funny.
Also, MSU just started getting involved in tons of top 10 kids lately… Kind of out of the blue… If anything, that seems more shady than someone whose been ivolved with stud recruits for 15 straight years.
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@Kcmatt7 Dude just had to get his shots in about Jackson and Cliff.
Btw even MSU fans think this guy is a bit nuts. Player 1 is Jabari Parker who Izzo still talks glowingly about.
Edit: Lol, this is a quote from an MSU person…
“f that guy is supposed to represent MSU as a writer it’s completely embarrassing. It’s fanboy fantasy combined with poor writing.”
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COPYPASTE FROM PHOG POSTER.
"So I was fortunate enough to be able to discuss this topic with two very interesting sources yesterday. One was a former Conference Commissioner, the other was a former AD (both at the P5 level). They are very plugged in to this situation. I asked them point blank how worried KU should be- and they both didn’t think we have anything to worry about. They told me that the rules are basically set up to benefit a very select few schools (with KU being one) where they can LEGALLY, and without violating any NCAA rules, ‘hook a kid up’. It’s all a little above my head, but it has to do with AAU tournaments, summer camps, job funneling (helping out a parent/guardian with a job), legal support/financial advisors, and other various things that seem to be dirty (to me) but are all above ground. They basically told me that we don’t have to cheat because the rules are set up to favor us. They figured that Duke and UNC would be fine in all of this as well… "
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@Kcmatt7 Player 2 is actually Bowen according to MSU people. That relieves me.
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Also how FUDGING INSANE is that if true?
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@BShark That would be pretty outrageous.
