I read that Holly Rowe’s cancer has come back. As you know, she has been a fixture during KU games and after her previous bout, the first game she did was the KU-Texas game.
Let’s pray that she will beat cancer once again and continue coming back to do KU games. She is certainly well liked by KU fans.
Hold on just a second. We need to look at the numbers in context before stating as a fact that the refereeing was one sided.
The foul count itself was 26 for WVU and 14 for KU. The last 4 fouls against WVU were in the last 8 seconds of the game which makes the count for basically the entire game a more realistic 22 to 14. When you consider that the average for WVUk games is 21 to 17, then the foul count is not that out of the norm.
Now, we know that until a team gets into the bonus or the foul is not committed in the act of shooting then no free throws are awarded. WVU was shooting lights out from the outside and not taking it to the hoop, which normally happens when the outside shots are going in, so most of the fouls KU was called for were of the non-shooting variety while KU was not hitting from the outside so it was penetrating a lot more and when it got fouled I was during the act of shooting resulting in free throws.
Were there bad calls? Sure, there always are but it went both ways. Bilas even commented that fouls were not being called on WVU.
When you look at it in context it really is not as bad as just saying 35-2…wouldn’t you all agree?
Did anyone notice that Selden and Mason have been sending us subliminal message all along as to when the will explode? Look a the the back of their jerseys…Selden “JR”, Mason “III”, so this is truly their year… 
If that is his attitude, I would tell him to take his business elsewhere…I am sure many will disagree.
Following tradition, a player of the opposing team will have a career day against KU, usually in a losing cause. Congrats Travis, today was your day…
The streak at UCLA was accomplished under 3 different coaches so Wooden does not have that record; Coach Self already owns that one and Mark Few is second with 11.
Even if nothing changes we still have an excellent platform. 
I seriously doubt anybody in this forum thought your post was hilarious. I personally think it was disrespectful and puerile.
You are right, he did indeed had 8 hard fought boards, he also had 3 steals and 2 blocks…but why look at the good things he did when it is easier and more fun to point out the things he did wrong…shaking my head…not at you Ict.
I bet this is the favorite game of some posters in this forum…
Orlando has one of the 3 worse rosters if not the worst in the NBA. Vaughn has done as well as anyone can under the circumstances. I would love to see him spend some time at KU working with the guards while Collison works with the bigs…I can dream…:)
Wiggins had a great game and scored 33 points frequently taking it to LeBron and Love and, on a couple of occasions, he went against both of them to score. Other than rebounding, Love is really not a good defender. Once the Wolves get to full strength they will be pretty good; Rubio is expected to start playing any time now. I am convinced that we will be seeing Wiggins highlight for a long time…
Thanks for the link. TRob is the one player I would really like to see succeed and make it big in the NBA. I believe that every Jayhawk fan has an emotional investment as we were all affected by his personal situation.
A few KU related pictures to brighten your weekend…
My next vacation spot…
Jayhawk warning…
Did my eyes deceive me or did I see Greene drive to the basket…twice!!!
Somebody must have lit a fire under his rear end while he was suspended. I like it.
There is no longer a question that Embiid is indeed the best player in that team; every article on the subject pretty much confirms this. What is really satisfying is that the #3 draft pick from KU is outperforming Okafor, the #1 pick from Duke and Noel, the #1 pick for UK. Sweeeeeeeet… 
In past games against MSU, the teams seemed to give the game away after being in control. This team does not give away close games, this team wins close games. KU by double digits.
I am not sure what game you were watching. The refs were bad, very bad because they called way to many ticky tac fouls but they called them fairly evenly on both teams, Gonzaga got to the bonus and double bonus a lot sooner than UNC so a reasonable person could infer that more were called on UNC and also sooner. Replay clearly showed that Berry cleanly stripped the ball from Karnowski and got pulled down by the neck by Karnowski and hit on the head with the hip while falling down, a clear flagrant by rule but Berry got called for the non-existing foul; that was a game changing call.
No doubt the refs killed the tempo and both teams shot horribly and the game was a forgettable one. Now, why is it again that bad refereeing makes you lose respect for Coach Williams?
If this was engineered entertainment, then they should get their money back…it was anything but entertaining.
HighEliteMajor said:
We look like the aggrieved ex-wife.
No, we look like the husband whose wife cheated, left him, almost caused him bankruptcy and married someone else and now that she found out what living in trailer park is like she wants to be friends. Perhaps she just want to increase occupancy in her no-tell motel…I mean newly rental dorms. Why in the world would we do this?
On the other hand, you are back to looking like Coach Self’s spurned lover.
I can see both point both I would have to agree more with @mayjay .
Comparing a Final Four with the World Series is not the same since in the World Series you are playing for the title while in the Final Four, you may or may not play for the title depending on the result of the first game. If you lose the first game the appearance is pretty forgettable and few remember. It might be more comparable to the Division title and who remember the losers other than a few fans?
As far as records that transcend time go, some are remembered more than others by some or all fans. Only very dedicated fans other than UCLA’s fans remember how many titles UCLA won other than there were several while back. A lot of fans remember their 13 year title streak and most everybody knows about the 88 game winning streak that started and ended with loses to Notre Dame…even those that were too young to live it.
If KU wins title #14, it will be record remember by all basketball fans since it will likely never be broken and it was done in an era with a heck of a lot more parity than when UCLA won 13. I bet it will be chosen as the sports event of the year by all publications. Keep in mind that the Big 12 was the #1 ranked conference for the last 5 years and other years before as well. I don’t care what the ACC, SEC or other conference fans and apologists say, the numbers compiled by objective computer models don’t play favorites.
Years from now, we will all marvel at the consistent excellence of the program under Coach Self and what a pleasure was to have been witnesses to the entire process.
Same reason why on all the golf courses in Missouri they only use the first 14 holes…they just don’t know how to get to the final four…
Here is a bit of trivia…
AFH is the Cathedral of Basketball and while it is owned by the University it belong to all Jayhawk fans and is revered by basketball fans all over.
Rupp Arena is not owned by the University of Kentucky, it is owned by an agency of the Lexington-Fayette Urban County Government; UK is simply a tenant. If UK ever builds an arena of its own…and since the Rupp name is taken, what will they call it? The Squid Dome? The Probation Center? *PS&C Arena?
*PS&C = Point Shaving and Cheating
Yeap, malice intended.
I really get upset when fair weather fans start beating on the players from the safety of their computers. I will guess most of the ones doing the criticism are beer guzzling, balding middle age men with huge beer bellies that couldn’t jump 6 inches from the ground if their lives depended on it and the only exercise they get is changing channels from the comfort of their lazy boys and yet they criticize superior athletes just because they did not execute one play to their satisfaction? I find it pretty sad and pathetic.
I know some people find it “fashionable” to constantly criticize Perry (and other players/coaches) even when he has been one of our steadier if not steadiest player. A few days ago there was thread with names of potential all-conference players and I did not see Perry’s name. Interesting that a few days later at a meeting with a client and while visiting after the meeting with several individual that were fans of other teams, almost all had Perry as an all-conference selection, how sad that fans of other programs appreciate Perry more than many KU fans do. I guess the expression …the grass is always greener on the other side of the fence…is true after all.
Please don’t reply to my post telling me how wrong I am and how bad Perry is…I am tired of the negativity. I am a loyal KU fan and as such, I stand behind the team in the good times and more importantly on the bad times as well.
Self’s major decisions on strategy have been vindicated.
HEM is going to bitch-slap you…ROTFLMAO
It is amazing that with all the available technology and instant replays available to them, the refs have managed to royally screw up some calls. I wonder if they are shown the same thing we see and if they are not, why not?
The obvious to everyone but the blind flagrant foul by the Kentucky player was reviewed and not even a regular foul was called…it just defies logic. Same thing with the out of bounds call that went off the Duke player and the obvious charging foul by Winslow that was called a block were plays that changed the game big time and possibly the final score as they happen at the very end of the game. We have all seen how bad the refereeing was in the conference this year; instead of trying to please Bilas and redefine the contact rules, the NCAA should be addressing the issue with refereeing that has a larger and deeper effect on the game.
In all honesty, I have heard almost all top analysts including Bilas, Fraschilla, Vitale and others indicate at various times that the streak is one of the more if not the most impressive achievement in College Basketball in the modern era. The better analysts understand the significance and readily acknowledge the importance of the streak…fans on the other hand…
If the NBA thinks he can contribute, he will go. Diallo played and showed a lot less than Bragg and went anyway.
Let’s not be too harsh on Bragg. He started 5 games and is averaging 18.6 mpg, 8.8 ppg and 5.2 rpg, he also has 3 blocks. His number are not really that bad although they certainly not up top the expectations. I mentioned before that Bragg was untested and with quite a different body than the one he had last season and he is still getting used to it and we should temper our expectations. We need to give him some time before completely writing him off as I sense some posters have already done. Remember Perry? he kept missing and missing until one game the light went on and he became one of the more solid players we have had in a while; let’s hope Bragg will have the same awakening.
Most stupid question of the day…the reporter interviewing Frank court side after the game…did you watch the UConn women’s team win their 100 game in a row? really? You have just finished watching one of the best comebacks ever and you ask the game MVP about women’s basketball? Dang, I miss Holly Rowe…
This team has a different DNA, it is built to never give up and the players seem to be in a mission. Hopefully it will not require last minute heroics
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Oftentimes is not what you do but how you do it. MU went begging the Big 10 for admission with the governor publicly asking only to be turned down. When everything appeared to be settled, MU moved to the SEC at a critical time for the conference placing it, and by extension KU, in a precarious situation that almost led to the end of the conference. There is no question they did it knowing well the problems they were creating, so I say the Big 12 teams owe Missouri nothing but contempt for their dastardly deed.
KU did not play them when they could have beaten them by 50 points and now that they think they might have a good team they want to play again and get some respectability and exposure? I say screw them, good bye and good riddance.
Think about it…by the end of the semester we could be adding 3 top 35 players. By itself it would be a top 5-10 class and KU gets it as a bonus at the mid-term and it is probably unprecedented in college basketball.
If KU moves the ball and shoots its average, it will blow the Syracuse zone to smithereens and Boeheim will go back home crying like a little girl younger person of unmentioned gender, race, ancestry, religion, political affiliation or legal status (corrected for the PC police).
I would like to see the video of his post game rant.
During the game they showed him looking up at the replay screen and raising his arms and looking up indicating a bad call while the announcers were saying it was the correct call. I really wanted to Mitch slap him.
Wouldn’t it be nice if KU gets to the Final Four by running the table against the best of the entire East Coast and topping it off by spanking Kentucky?
This was the part that showed how bad the writing was…
“Remember, this is a group that was overshadowed earlier this season in the Big 12. While the headlines went to other players and other teams, Kansas did what it usually does – win.”
Remember it was ESPN that became infatuated with Trae Young, became his de facto publicist, led the charge to overshadow KU and made it possible for a wholly underserving team to make it to the Tournament? An ethical media outlet would have looked at the numbers and not the click bait hype to create a fake reality.
When a coach says:
“Honestly, the amount of disrespect their kids and coach showed towards the officials was just wrong on so many levels.”
…it speaks volumes. I find it hard to believe a coach, any coach, would make such a strong and public statement unless there is evidence to back it up. The stories I read about the game do not seem to indicate any obvious bias by the refs. Making a patently false statement could expose him to a whole lot of issues.
Neither one of us was at the game but from the couple of stories I read, sounds like the other team came in with a sense of entitlement (Bol Bol did not even show up until half time) and expecting to win easily and became frustrated and openly hostile to the refs when things did not go as planned. The coach should have kept his players under control after the first couple of Ts but apparently did not do so. What are the refs supposed to do when players become disrespectful and are asking for a T? Is there a rule written or unwritten that says after so many Ts the refs should cut them some slack? I think not.
Coaches at this level bear the brunt of responsibility for the team’s actions. Clowns like LaVar Ball are setting a horrible precedent for coaches at this level and I can see this type of behavior becoming more prevalent.
Just my opinion and I could be wrong.
The salient sentence in the article is…Talks between Kaepernick and the executive’s shoe company never materialized…
Sounds to me like a bunch of executives speculating over drinks and getting Nike to make what it could turn out to be a costly mistake.
Here is a better logo for their campaign…
One old school coach that believes helping young men turn into men and getting an education is more important than winning games. A class act that will be missed; college BBall could use more coaches like him.
It is very interesting to read all the theories regarding some of the players with as little information as we have.
As you know. most practices are closed to the public and only occasionally NBA scouts will be allowed, but the public at large it is not. Sometimes Williams Fund contributors will be given tours of the facilities (I was lucky to be the guest of one several years back) and as part of that tour, you watch practice for a few minutes, and can get a better idea of the height and heft of the players, that’s all.
On the Court:
Off the Court:
All the items above are just a small list of what factors in who plays and how much playing time he gets. So, what do we really know?
That is basically it and with this information we second guess, make wild conjectures and pretend we know more, not only about player management and development but even game strategy than (arguably) the most successful college basketball coach in the last decade. Pretty presumptuous on our part, wouldn’t you agree? We all do it and I do it myself, although I always try to give Coach Self the benefit of the doubt since, as shown above, he has a hell of a lot more information that I do.This is just my opinion and I am sure some fellow posters will tell me I am all wrong.
I hear what you are saying but…
It has been said that Democracy is the worst system of government …except for all the others. Likewise, it has been said that the RPI is the worst system but what system is better?
Look at the current KenPom ranking just 2-3 places on each side of KU…
13 VCU 11-3, SOS 9 vs top 50 2-3
14 Notre Dame 15-1, SOS 344 vs top 50 2-1
15 Baylor 11-2, SOS 90 vs top 50 1-1
16 KU 11-2, SOS 3 vs top 50 4-1
17 Michigan 10-5, SOS 78 vs top 50 1-4
18 Maryland 14-1, SOS 158 vs top 50 4-1
The record against top 50 comes from Jeff Sagarin since KenPom does not post these figures.
Does this ranking makes sense? How do you justify MSU being right behind KU with 5 loses, including 1-4 record against top 50 teams and a SOS 69 places behind KU? Wouldn’t you think that KU’s numbers are much better than Baylor’s…and VCU’s…and Notre Dame and its 344 SOS? Shouldn’t Maryland be above those as well?
Yes, KU schedules smart, but it also has consistently one of the toughest schedules of any Div I program, and …it also has to consistently win those games to get the full benefit. Any Elite program can schedule like KU but most don’t because they rather have a sure win against a poor team than a tough game against better opposition. If you look at the top 50 teams, only KU and VCU have SOS in the top 10. If you extend to the top 20 SOSs then you can add UNC and Gonzaga. top 30 SOSs and you add Oklahoma, top 40 SOSs add BYU and Georgetown. In short of the top 40 ranked teams as per KenPom, only 2 have SOS in the top 10 (KU-3, VCU-9) and a total of 7 teams have SOS in the top 40. The reality is that the numbers I mentioned suggest that top teams avoid tough schedules…wouldn’t you agree? All teams can game the system like KU, most “choose” not to.
I have always liked Pomeroy, Sagarin and Massey, not necessarily in that order, and I often cite their numbers in this forum. Which one would you say has the better method? Would you consider an average of these 3 methods a good indicator? I personally think Vegas is the best, since those are the guys that literally put their money where their mouth are.
TCU is a team that will not allow many 3 point shots period. Look at the number of shots taken and made by the other conference teams:
No question that TCU does not allow a lot of 3s and the ones taken are guarded and the made percentage not good. Maybe we should have hoisted 25 like VWU and make 24%. Considering that KU players were heavily guarded on the perimeter (one picture notwithstanding) and shot 21-44 from 2 (47.7%), seemed like the better option…but then…I am probably wrong since I don’t know nearly as much about coaching as other member(s) of this forum.
I don’t know how tall you are, but as Jayhawk fan, you stand tall wherever you are…
At this time and based on the style of plays he runs, I just don’t see a lot of big time recruits flocking to Texas since Smart’s style of play is not something that leads to the NBA. The 40 minutes of “whatever” had his heyday with Arkansas a lifetime ago when it was first introduced and since then it has had little success; Smart has not even been able to win conference titles in the last 6 years. I believe that the “legend” of Shaka Smart, based mostly on a fluke win over KU, is a lot more impressive than the reality. Just my opinion.
I can’t wait to see Diallo make Jameel McKay his beatch…
The Global warming has not been a scientific issue for a while now (at least for unbiased scientists) since most of the methodology used to produce the original “hockey stick” curve has been fully discredited. The main author of the original paper/curve, Michael Mann, has claimed the methodology used to develop the curve is “intellectual property” and refuses to disclose the detail, something that is unheard and unacceptable in scientific circles.
We are just beginning to understand solar flares and solar storms and their occurrence seems to closely correspond to cyclic warming; a lot better than man made CO2, the current favorite of the “man is the cause of global warming” crowd.
Global warming is purely a political issue that many politicians, such as Al Gore, have used to try to stay relevant and more importantly, to make a lot of money. As an Engineer/Scientist, I deal with a number of other scientists, many in agencies that deal directly with the issue, such as NASA, for whom I have done work in the space shuttle program since the late 80’s, I can tell you that at least 95% of them feel the same way I do. Global warming has been happening cyclically through hundreds of thousand of years and I have an objection that the current period of warming is the result of human action alone. Humans contribute minimally and have zero control over global warming
Read this linked article that outlines the entire process and draw your own conclusions. I don’t want to get in an argument over this issue since, IMHO, it is political issue and this is not the forum for it. I don’t claim my opinion is correct, since no one really knows the answer with full certainty, the comments above are my opinion based on my own experience and interaction with other, much more knowledgeable scientists. Like I said, do your own research and draw your own conclusions.
The legend of Thon is much better than the reality. He was over hyped based on one highlight video and then he was exposed playing against top competition. His “team” which makes the Keystone cops look competent is now in full dam,age control and making things worse with every comment they make. To me Thon Maker is like ribs, good taste but way too much work for very little actual meat.
I could not disagree with you more. You are presenting your opinions as facts when they are really not.
First, KU was asked to do this well over a year ago and no one could have predicted at the time, a) who would sign with KU and b ) that two rotation players would be injured. If we get different recruits signed up, i.e. Americans, and If Green and Graham are not injured this discussion does not even take place and we wold be praising Coach Self. Like I said, one year ago we KU had dozen player targeted and no one knew who KU would end up getting. If KU gets two other top players in lieu of Diallo and Coleby, then Manning and Self are not even part of the official 12 players.
As some posters have mentioned, they would prefer that players from other conference teams not be invited so they not become familiar with the KU playbook. I personally believe that most top players take a lighter class load during the season and take summer classes to catch up and stay eligible; the WUG requires a 28 day “full time commitment” that most top players cannot make and that their school probably would not allow them to attend and risk injury in the first place. Let’s face it, the WUG is a fairly unknown tournament in this country and it is not even close in exposure to the Pan-American games and the U-20 tournaments that actually take a National team…Northern Iowa was asked to represent the US a couple of tournaments ago and they decided this time around to ask a established team to do it because of the increasing difficulty of assembling a “National” team for this event…there is really very little interest for it.
There is ZERO evidence that KU invited any other player from a different program and was denied. There is ZERO evidence that Nike or Adidas had any involvement in the selection of players, none, nada, zip, zilch. From the very beginning and before Coach Self even knew who would or would not be available, there was talk that outside/former players could be invited. The only information I have appears to indicate that the two outside players were suggested by their coaches, both with heavy KU connections. Again, there is no evidence that other players were considered and KU was turned down; to imply that:
"KU and Self have been exposed as almost completely isolated in American college basketball. KU has been forced to represent America with Florida Atlantic and SMU players, apparently because neither top Nike, nor top Adidas programs will help out."
…is the equivalent of yelling fire in a crowded theater when someone turns his cell phone on.
In the big scheme of things, the WUG is the equivalent of the KU-Team Canada game this eveni9ng, where only half of the arena is available and there is not TV broadcast. Yes, it is a game that involves KU but has little of no relevance in the basketball world. Most KU fans will be curious on how the game goes but likely more interested on how the team is progressing rather than the final result. Look at team Canada, they could have assembled a top team from the over 300 Canadian players that play college here many for Elite programs and at least a dozen with NBA potential; Pangos, Trey Liles, Kyle Wiltjer, Ejim, Heslip, Cherry,Ennis are some of the players right of the top of my head…26 Canadian players played in the past NCAA tournament…and yet none of those is part of the team. Guess what…they are all trying out for the much better known and more prestigious Pan-American Tournament team.
The main advantage of KU representing the US in this tournament is not the final outcome, which no one, other than die hard fans, will remember in another month, but the extra time they get to practice together with "ALL’ the players, including those that are not eligible for the WUG. How many basketball fans, even counting the die hard fans in this forum, knew that Northern Iowa represented the US in the past? I would venture to say that maybe a couple at most; I certainly did not remember it, and most of us became aware after KU was asked to to the same.
You are really making a mountain out of a “bate” hill. No malice intended and it is just my opinion…and you are welcome to prove me wrong.
Sooooo… house slippers are now dress shoes? I guess in a world where underwear is outerwear it really should not be surprising… 
The person best qualified to judge how good Jamari is and how much he can contribute is Coach Self. His job and legacy depend on how well he judges players and wins games and so far he as done it better than just about any other coach in the business. We should trust his judgement since he has a lot more and better information on the players than all of us “Lazy Boy PGs” do.