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RE: Liberace Game Thread
Silvio is quite the lightning rod. All the talk in the press seems to be about him rather than the K-State players. This is not fair.
It is definitely his fault for taunting after the block. The technical foul was fair. But the physical altercation was instigated and escalated by K-State players-- multiple individuals.
In the video, what I see is KState players running to confront Silvio. One of them pushes him. I see Silvio brush that push away and another player pushes him and he begins to push away and back at the same time (look closely-- his hands are not clenched; they are open to deflect the aggressors.)
There are at least two pushing him, maybe three. Meanwhile, everyone around Silvio is telling him to stop because they are all KU fans. It looks to me like he’s trying to not over-react for a couple of seconds while the K-State players have no one holding them back. Then the third guy lunges and pushes Silvio down and he comes up swinging.
I think it’s important to look at Silvio’s body language in those early moments. He is not trying to fight at first. He gets provoked and then all hell breaks loose. The stool incident I see as an instinctive act… and one that he fortunately is able to overcome with help of those around him.
Silvio is justifiably being called out. But he should not be singled out. The players from K-State who were responsible for the escalation and the first physical acts should be equally called out.
As is often the case when there is great disparity between two forces, the smaller power can’t win with the traditional rules, so they resort to guerrilla tactics to get the bigger power to do something uncharacteristic. Silvio bit on the bait.
RE: I love KU basketball
No one who is here is a fair-weather fan. I appreciate that.
Everyone on this site during the season has followed the team with its incredible comebacks and it’s painful letdown losses.
Today was very disappointing, and we fans are going to have to endure a lot of grief from giddy, over-zealous WSU fans for a long long time.
I appreciate being a part of a community of fellow fans who appreciate the team and carve time out of their schedule to share thoughts and emotions with each other.
Have a great off-season, and Rock Chalk.
Paul Pierce sounding more and more like a coach...
Paul Pierce in a post-game interview sounding like a coach…
“You can learn a lot of lessons from losses, but you also learn lessons from winning,” Pierce said. “Hopefully we have better urgency on defense as this stretch comes up. We got Phoenix, Chicago, and of course New York and then our [Western Conference] trip. So we got to build better habits before this trip.”
For just a moment, I wondered what if Pierce was an assistant to Self in a few years… hmmmm.
RE: GOOD NEWS THE WUG BASKETBALL GAMES WILL BE BROADCAST BY ESPNU
When will this team be properly referenced as:
RE: Espn is neat.
Just imagine if Duke had secured their 13th straight conference title…
The 30minute preview show leading up to the game would have been a retrospective…
We would be watching the 5 part series tonight – it would already be in the can, ready for broadcast – built from the materials they started developing 8 years ago when the streak was 5 games long and they already deemed it the single greatest accomplishment in sports history. Interviews with the players over the years… and interviews with coaches…
Think I’m exaggerating? If Grayson Allen had tripped someone tonight, there would be a special report tomorrow and a special piece on Duke’s struggles ready for the weekend games.
Data sez: Bill Self is frickin awesome
The chart shown here will captivate you for a long, long time.
But this is just another piece of evidence that reinforces what a HOFer Bill Self is.
He is world class.
Frank Mason III is the Gold Standard
We witnessed a historic year in Kansas Basketball. It didn’t end exactly the way we wanted, but we’ll look back on this year as a watershed moment – HC Bill Self named to the HOF, Frank Mason III named POY (first in KU history), tying the NCAA record for consecutive conference championships (13) and setting the NCAA record for consecutive appearances in the Tournament (28), among other things.
I believe next year will be tough for us because expectations have been set at an extremely high level - without achieving the FF/NC goals.
In particular, our PG next year (and for many years to come) will be compared to Frank. Whoever takes over the PG role next year will be in a tough position. We now know great PG play when we see it. Anything less will be disappointing but less is almost certain.
So this is just a precautionary note to manage those ‘sky-is-falling’ feelings next year when they come. It will feel natural to pick apart the guard play and backcourt, but that’s because 2016-17 was the new benchmark for excellence.
RE: The Myth Of Three Point Defense And Ellis Success
this season died on that date. It is over.
If this is true, at least when we die, we do it like royalty – Challenging for the crown and threatening to take the gold and jewels into the afterlife.
There are, after all, so many ways to die.
RE: I APPRECIATE WHAT THESE PEOPLE DO FOR KU AND I WISH WAS ONE OF YOU.
I like the Crimson and Blue colors in that picture… That’s the view of Hawaii though Jayhawk glasses.
RE: Oh Ye Of Little Faith
@KUSTEVE Love your perspective. Right on.
Good luck to Duke when Coach K retires. We’ll see if you can keep it going without skipping a beat.
North Carolina had the dip after Dean. Kentucky has had it’s misfires after Rupp and will likely be challenged after Calipari leaves (probably in a smoldering pile of ashes from an NCAA nuclear blast).
Our most recent 3 coaches have had a level of excellence that is not seen by other programs. It’s really remarkable and something to be treasured.
We may or may not win #12 this year… but regardless of this year’s outcome, the team has been graced with amazing talent and good character for a long time. It’s a joy to be a fan!
RE: Several thoughts
JMO: I believe we have had three teams playing as close to their ceiling as is possible – maybe above their ceiling. They’ve easily each played their best game of the season against us. We have withstood that and I think it’s more about how good our opponents have played than about our deficiencies. We haven’t played at the top of our game, and fortunately, haven’t needed to.
Maybe I’m out of touch with what ‘excellence’ looks like these days, but I feel like the athleticism of this team (7 rotation) is top 5. Our guards and outside shooting is top 5. We have more playmakers on the floor at the same time than I can ever recall.
Defense is a question, but it is a Bill Self team and that portends well in the long run.
Ok, here’s for my completely fan-boy comment. (i.e. I may regret this and have to eat my words):
Josh Jackson is the best freshman we’ve had since Wilt (who didn’t play varsity.) Better-- more impactful – than even Manning. He isn’t scoring as much as Wiggins or Manning, but he impacts the game more through all aspects of the game. It reminds me a bit of young Jordan. I know… I’m a homer, but the kid is solid gold – a winner. The combination of him with Mason, and company is dreamy. And improving.
Can they be beat? Of course. The ceiling of the best teams like Villanova, West Virginia, UNC, Kentucky, Baylor, Creighton etc is not far from our ceiling.
But I think they can go toe-to-toe with any team even when that team is at the top of their game. We have to play close to our ceiling against teams playing at the top of their game… But this team is capable of taking any team’s best shot.
The sport that has driven conference re-alignment is in the twilight of dominance
It has been at the top of the mountain. Financially, it has been the driving force behind conference re-alignment. It’s been the main engine for fund-raising for many universities… The NFL is a huge business.
But the demise of football is imminent. This week’s news that autopsies of 111 NFL players’ brains revealed CTE in 110 of them is the death knell for football.
Not today. Not next year. But it’s coming.
The demise of football is certain. With the medical evidence mounting, it is undeniable that playing football is hazardous to your health.
Universities cannot continue to sanction a sport that is assured to cause a brain injury. If I was an NFL owner, I’d be looking to sell sell sell. The product that you sell is killing the people who create it. How do you manage the workman’s comp liability for this?
So what does this have to do with Basketball?
As football declines, the #2 sport will rise to take its place. Basketball is not only the #2 sport, but it is played by both sexes and it has global popularity. In short, the ceiling is much higher for basketball than football.
It’s only a matter of time before the reality sinks in for the power 5 conferences. Once they get it, there will be a scramble for the schools with basketball pedigree.
My guess is that as early as 2020, the tide will be turning… (apologies to Alabama) and by 2030, basketball will be the dominate athletic enterprise in universities and the NBA will eclipse the NFL in revenue and popularity.
This is good news for KU and the great basketball tradition we all love. It will be even more valuable and more coveted in the future.
RE: Incredible! Duke and MSU have full complements of D1 recruits
Not In Kansas Enymore.
Here's what I think Self did tonight...
“Hopefully it doesn’t hurt him moving forward,” Self said of Azubuike, who finished the game with nine points and six rebounds.
“I’ve always been a big believer that you send a bad message to somebody when you don’t have confidence in him. Especially when you know he’s going to have to play every big minute late in the season against good competition.”
On this bright bright stage – all eyes on the hyped up KU/OU match up – Self knew the scouts would be watching. So this was Azubuike’s opportunity to show he was ready for the NBA.
Make the FT down the stretch, go to the next level. Miss, and stay another year.
Well, we all know how the story ended. And for that reason, I think we just witnessed Self get Udoka back for his junior year.
I don’t think Self will trust Doke in close games late the rest of the regular season at least. That will limit his opportunity to be a hero – with either a game-winning block, dunk or free-throw. This will sink his stock with scouts.
Oh and one more silver lining given the recent turn of events:
Now that Doke can’t be trusted in the game the final 5 minutes, he can be turned loose to play more aggressively the first 35. If he gets foul #5 any time after the 3min mark, it’s not the end of the world. And likely he’s created more havoc defensively blocking shots and scrapping for rebounds. This alone could change the games. Not that I think he’s been timid up to this point, but I do think Self has worked to protect him and his minutes. Once that becomes less of a priority, Doke should adjust his game accordingly.
RE: What’s up with Lagerald?
Let me start by saying that Vick is one of my favorite players and I have been watching his career with great anticipation since he was a freshmen. He has amazing leaping ability and must be one of the most athletically gifted Jayhawks in the past 10 years. His shooting stroke is beautiful.
But then he’s had off nights and lost consistency. He’s disappeared and looked less interested. There are long stretches where the offense doesn’t move through him or even include him, except for the occasional lob and jam (which are almost always spectacular).
But more of a concern than the recent inconsistency is the body language.
Body language sounds subjective, so I will provide Exhibit A and Exhibit B for your consideration:
EXHIBIT A: Lagerald distant and disconnected
EXHIBIT B: Watch the team entering TT locker room – each player celebrating as they high-five Hudy. And then watch how Vick walks down the hall and greets Hudy…
C’mon Lagerald!! We need you! If you are at the top of your game, there isn’t a team that can beat us!
RE: Vick Coming Back
I like Vick. Always have. He’s had his ups and downs and haven’t we all. Coming back and finishing school will be the best decision of his life when he looks back in 15 years.
In the short term, his athleticism has been underestimated consistently. I think he is the kind of guy that can propel the team to a deep run — again.
For reasons I can’t explain, I have always liked this kid and I wish him all the best this year. It will be a life changer, I think. He should in the NBA after this season.
RE: Knocking Off 'Nova
Big Clyde52 said:
@ I just do not believe this team is as good as last years. We lost three terrific shooters, two of which were senior leaders. We have none of that kind of fire power now, except for Vick going off occasionally. DLawson is trying to fill the gap lately. Just my opinion.
I feel the urge to agree. However, I have to catch myself and try to consider how to make a fair assessment. Here are some things I think are influencing my evaluation:
Last year’s team had Silvio and Doke. They are still on this team, but neither is playing. If they play, the team would be better. If/when they do, both have a year more experience than last year.
I am using current data against the team that finished strong with a conference and regional final championship. It’s still just December. Trying to remember how the team was last year about this time. We were relying pretty heavily on Graham and Svi. Newman was a non-factor until conference, IIRC.
The vacancies were filled by less experienced players, but with ceilings as high or possibly higher. Dotson is not Graham, but seems to have found a groove already. His performance as a freshmen has been impressive, but no where near as potent offensively as Graham.
Vick is much more lethal than last year, shooting better than anyone I can recall since Terry Brown and Ron Kellogg. Not sure if he completely fill’s Svi’s shoes as a slasher, and certainly not as a defender, but there is room for improvement. Vick’s athleticism continues to amaze. That bodes well for some moment in the future when he decides to play lock-down defense.
DLawson is unlike anyone we had last year.
Garrett and Lightfoot are a year older and both seem improved.
This team is less experienced as a group, less consistent and not as strong defensively as the team last year. And it’s short-handed.
But the deficiencies are things that could be resolved through the season and, in almost every category, we could be better.
So we’re not yet better, but this team could be better than a final four team, and that’s encouraging to me.
Short version: glass is half full.
RE: WSU grudge
Calling Self a liar and a cheater is a bit extreme unless you are one of those people who always drives at or below the speed limit, etc. etc. and so on.
The game of basketball, and of America it seems, is to play the edges. There’s the saying – if you don’t have a foul, you didn’t play hard enough… People adapt to norms. The norms are ever adjusting… being pushed by those that are more assertive. I’m not saying it is right or wrong. It is what it is.
I guess what I am saying is that I don’t see Self as a liar or a cheater in the context of the environment of college basketball. I might take it a step further to say that such a statement is either naive or calculated to provoke.
RE: Not a positive outlook
I still believe they can win some games and surprise some people. And I still believe they can build the program back to a national contender. We won the Orange Bowl (it wasn’t a dream, really, we did!) and were a top 5 team just 7 years ago.
I will believe this because I am a KU fan for life… and because it is mid-August.
Please don’t remind me of this post in October.
RE: Trading views
My 2cents (which no one asked for, ever) is to be careful characterizing a group (yes, even kentucky fans, refs, etc.) with a broad brush.
Obviously, sweeping generalizations can be stereotypes and are oversimplified views of reality. They can unintentionally offend those that don’t fit the characterization…and even those that do.
RE: 2014 Headlines We'd Like to See
####KU defeats Belmont in tournament’s first round; KU’s 12-0 run in final 5 minutes lays waste to the “B” curse####
####Villanova stuffed by Kansas 66-40; Embiid’s 17-10-15 triple double leads the Jayhawks’ revenge####
####Kansas dashes the dreams of #1 seed Arizona in West Regional semi-final with balanced attack; Wiggins brothers to be reunited####
###KU silences WSU; Selden shocks the Shockers with 30 points and named West Regional MVP; KU completes Big 12/Big 10 Final Four showdown###
##Kansas denies ‘crafty’ Ohio State with late Embiid block; Ellis scores 23 and hits game winning free-throws; Jayhawks will meet Michigan State for title after Spartans survive Smart and Cowboy’s best shot.##
#Jayhawks Win National Championship over MSU in a battle of attrition# ####KU’s Green and White too much for Sparty, Bench scores 30 and Wiggins is MVP with 17 points, 10 rebounds, 6 steals, 5 assists, 5 blocks####
#Wiggins, Embiid, Selden, Ellis selected to All-tournament Team#
##Wiggins named MVP of NCAA Tournament##
###Wiggins, Embiid go 1-2 in 2014 NBA draft### ####Selden selected #6####
Jan 3: Young team learns about 'The Miracles'
Kansas University’s basketball players — who according to coach Bill Self, “went really hard,” in the practice gym Thursday morning — were brought back for what figured to be a strenuous two-a-day session a few hours later.
“We surprised them. We gathered our team together and watched the documentary, ‘Miracles,’” Self said.
March: Post-Season News Headlines Digest
This is the way I prefer to remember the team:
Wayne Selden Jr. was tired of being the talk of speculation. On Tuesday morning, the Kansas freshman guard contacted Kansas coach Bill Self to tell him he was ready to announce he was returning for his sophomore season at KU.
###Grantland: Does Andrew Wiggins Want to Get Rich or Get Better?###
Look at it logically. Parker and Wiggins can get paid next year, sure, but they’ll be on crummy teams with no one to teach them how to be a man. No Coach K, no Bill Self. Nobody to teach them how to lead. Their games are incomplete now, but in the NBA, they’ll be playing an 82-game schedule and they’ll have more plane flights than practices. With no time to work, chances are that the holes in their game will stick with ’em for years. As their careers progress, there are some skills they just won’t have, and it’ll cost ’em come contract time. Or if not contracts, maybe it’ll cost ’em championships. It all ends up looking like the marshmallow test for a bunch of 19-year-old superstars.
It’s the day after and the loss still hurts but the guy I feel for the most is Andrew Wiggins. I’m not sure if people read his post game interview but it was kind of the saddest thing ever, to hear the way he shouldered the entirety of the blame for the loss. “I didn’t bring anything to the table.” He spoke with the kind of self awareness that only a 19 year old phenom living in an unprecedented digital age of critique and analysis could have. The only thing sadder is that you can average nearly 18 points a game, as a freshman on the undisputed best team, playing in arguably the best conference in the country, and walk away still being considered a borderline bust. 30 years ago freshmen were lucky to smell the court. Today, our hopes and dreams are placed squarely on their backs.
Thanks for the amazing memories, Andrew Wiggins
Kansas University freshman center Joel Embiid took to Twitter on Monday to express his feelings about the 2014 NCAA Tournament. “WHAT IF…???” the 7-footer from Cameroon wrote.
###RockChalkBlog: Looking ahead at the 2014-2015 Jayhawks###
Yes, the season just ended on Sunday and yes, this is probably too early to look ahead to next season. But there’s not much else to talk about.
####Kansas’ loss a missed opportunity that had season-long roots#### An opportunity gone forever is a locker room full of friends trying to make sense of it all.
They are mostly silent. When they speak, their voices are hushed. Stunned. Maybe the anger will come later. Maybe the answers will come later.
#####FOX Sports: Did Andrew Wiggins blow his shot at being the top draft pick?##### How much can you judge a 19-year-old by a single game? When the NBA Draft goes down in June, we may find out.
RE: Mid range shooting
You take what the D gives you, and they weren’t going to give us anything inside the paint.
YES! You take what the D gives you – especially when the D is focused on guarding the two most statistically important spots – Under the basket and the 3 pt line.
Here’s the secret to the statistics: the low risk/high reward regions are based on equivalent defense everywhere.
An uncontested mid-range shot is a higher-percentage shot than a heavily contested shot under the basket or on the perimeter.
CBS Sports: Kansas coach Bill Self is in a league of his own
Great article on Self’s remarkable run:
Kansas coach Bill Self will be featured on “Northwestern Mutual Presents NCAA Men of March” airing Saturday at 12:30 p.m. on CBS.
Bad Ball™, Eleven, and True Grit
It appears that @jaybate-1.0 and Seth Davis are sitting in a tree, k - i - s - s - i - n - g
In the latest Sports Illustrated, there’s an article called “Foul Ball”. On SI.com it’s titled:
####The history of college basketball’s offensive decline—and how to fix it#### by Seth Davis
College basketball is slower, more grinding, more physical and more, well, offensive than it has been in a long, long time. The 2014-15 season is shaping up to be the worst offensive season in modern history. Through Feb. 22, teams were averaging 67.1 points per game. That is the lowest average since 1952. The previous low for that span was set just two years ago. This more than reverses the gains that were made last season, after the rules committee made adjustments to clamp down on physical defense and make it harder to draw a charge. Thanks to lax enforcement by officials and a foolish decision to reverse the block/charge modification, scoring declined by 3.79 points per game. That is the steepest single-season drop on record.
###Eleven### by Dr. Seuss
Say! Look at his fingers!
One, two, three …
How many fingers do I see?
One, two, three, four, five, six, seven,
eight, nine, ten. He has eleven!
Eleven! This is something new.
I wish I had eleven, too!
#####(a true KU fan lives in a Base 11 world)#####
Jesse has done it again. By crunching the numbers on six years of KU comebacks, he’s taken me on a dopamine-inducing walk down memory lane of the nine least likely victories by the numbers.
They’re all there: The Sweet16 Purdue game… The final KU vs Mizzou game in AFH… Elijah’s heroics vs Iowa State and Weatherwax…
*Make no mistake about it, this team likes playing with fire. *
On that list of nine games that span six years, there are three games from this season. But this is the crown-jewel:
March 3, 2015 vs. West Virginia
KU trails 57-49 without possession and 2:32 left in second half
(2.6 percent chance of winning)
Compile all the numbers, and Tuesday’s 76-69 overtime victory ends up being the most unlikely of comeback of all.
The odds of hitting one number on a roulette wheel is 1 in 38. KU’s odds against WVU were almost exactly that: 1 in 38.4.
RE: Aaron miles on staff
I was out of the loop for a few days… just saw this news and it’s fantastic! Aaron is perfect for the program - a bridge between Williams’ system and Self’s!
He will set a great tone and help the team have an attitude that will get them through adversity – especially the freshmen, but I think even Perry can learn from him. He’s a winner and should be a solid role model for every player.
Could have used him last year for sure.
RE: MEDIA DAY
I’m excited for the season! The team has three key components for a FF run:
Experience: Senior leadership like Perry is rare, but rarer still is the opportunity to learn the system and establish team chemistry, as in S. Korea at the WUG.
Talent: And not just athleticism, Selden, Diallo, Svi, etc… but talent with depth.
Something to prove: Like, can we get past the second round? That loss to WSU should sting until April… especially for Mr Ellis.
Experience, Talent and Something to Prove: That’s a good combination.
RE: Buddy Hield
Everything you need to know about Kansas Basketball:
- Kansas Fans do not storm the court after winning a 3OT game pitting #1 vs #1 some call “the best regular-season game in history.”
- KU fans applaud the leading scorer of the opposing team, Buddy Hield, who scored 46.
All that other stuff, like the inventor of the game was the first coach, the Phog Allen pedigree of coaches, etc. etc… is just icing on the cake.
RE: Bragg Suspended Again
Let’s take a chill pill.
This seems worse than it may be because of the incident a month ago that turned out to not be Bragg’s fault. He was in the wrong place with the wrong person at the wrong time… but he was exonerated.
Then there is the rape case that recently cast a cloud over the whole team because of the location and the involvement of the team as ‘witnesses’. We don’t know what that means, but that’s presumably not Bragg’s fault.
As I read today’s news, it sounded like this incident was a violation of team rules… He might have been late for the bus and caused a delay… Maybe he cut classes… we don’t know.
That’s a lot of crap to sift through, but after all is said and done, it’s just one violation for Bragg. Most players get more than one strike, unless it’s really egregious.
RE: Vick and Josh
Hey KC Star, here’s a news tip: Allen Fieldhouse is a safe house for immigrants.
Seriously, if these reports are false, the source and the Star are on the edge of libel/slander, because this kind of repeated accusation appears to be with intent to defame and the Star is propagating the misinformation… Unless such protections are now dead in an era of Fake News.
RE: Rick Pitino S-U-C-K-S
And seriously, you can’t say “you suck”, you have to S-P-E-L-L it O-U-T on ESPN at 10:30 pm, but you can play trailers for horror movies at noon on a Saturday when little kids are actually watching?
^^^^^ THIS is the hypocrisy that more people should be outraged about. The ads that the networks show are off-the-charts inappropriate and have a far wider negative impact than one fan getting irate at a coach.
Just to be clear: I’m not defending the fan’s behavior. But for the network blush about that and meanwhile remain unconscious to content of their advertising is totally hypocritical.
RE: We Need a Title
Last night, I watched the “PAC12 Classics” game that my DVR recorded. It was Kansas vs Arizona in the SouthEast Regional Semifinal.
I remembered it was bad.
It. was. bad.
Talk about a team that had talent and should never have lost… Roy was coach of the year. The team was 34-1-- only loss was at Misery in OT…
The tournament losses are frustrating and the thing that can lead to a loss is or a win can be so many things… but unlucky matchups or hitting a team on a hot streak is among them.
I would say that our run in 2011 was as much about good luck and us getting hot as our early departures are about bad luck and going cold. (Watch that Purdue game and the Ohio State game… We were a good team, but it could have gone either way.)
It’s frustrating to have exits earlier than our record would suggest we should have. And it’s tempting to want to have a clear explanation for those losses – we are geared to look for cause and effect. But the reality is that it’s a complex system with lots of variables. Most of those variables, the Coach has no control over (opponent, location, officiating team, etc.)
It is what it is: An entertaining game (when the refs aren’t tampering with it) and a satisfying outcome about 87% of the time with Bill Self, which is better than any other fan base can claim. Of course, if you only count NCAA games, that percentage is lower. And if you only count the last game of the season, well, we should be glad that our last game of the season has been an sudden elimination game 32 out of the last 33 years (also better than any school).
We’ve won the last game twice out of those 32 tries. It’s natural to want more, if that’s all you look at.
RE: The sport that has driven conference re-alignment is in the twilight of dominance
All-- I have attempted to ‘fork’ this topic.
That doesn’t mean “stick a fork in it”… rather it means split the topic as the conversation has wandered into new territory. The new post is called “Colin Kaepernick’s protest and it’s impact on the NFL”
I have moved it to the General Discussion section…
Also-- my apologies that not all of the posts were moved when I forked it. I could not scroll to select all of the posts, and it looks like once it’s created, there’s no way to move posts across topics.