@HighEliteMajor when Fran was very complimentary of the team and it’s capacity to go very deep in the tourney, my assumption was that he had been spoken to about crapping on Kansas and this was his fake alter ego.
But if Fran is as close to the team as people suggest, do you think that Fran has truly changed his mind about our fortunes based on the Vick departure?
Kcmatt7 said:
There a lot to think about with Grimes. I thought he got overranked at the time. But it’s surprising how unathletic he’s been. I personally think he’s probably carrying 10 or more extra pounds that need to come off this summer.
I also just trust Self in this scenario. It took Self pressing buttons all the way through the conference tourney to get Newman going.
Sorry, I just don’t see the Newman comp. Newman made poor decisions, looked sped up, trying to be the hero, but the athleticism never seemed in question. Grimes doesn’t do too much, he does too little!
@Kcmatt7 Whats your guess on minutes breakdown next year btwn Ochai, Devon, Issac, Marcus and Q? Do we go 4 guard again?
Crimsonorblue22 said:
@approxinfinity he won’t transfer. Either stay, enter draft or go overseas
Well I dont think entering the draft is a possibility at all. I know others have suggested someone will take a flier based on pedigree. He hasn’t shown enough. Or rather, he’s shown too much bad stuff. I just don’t see it.
Overseas seems like a rough rough ride for this guy.
The only option I see is stay in college here or elsewhere.
If he goes to a smaller school where he can reset expectations, practice for a year to catch up with D-I while he sits out, and then get starter minutes a la Frankamp, it would be the best for him. It doesn’t matter that he was a 5 star if he can’t make baskets and his D is slow.
If he stays at Kansas, he’s likely the 5th best guard next year. Self has to tell him “look Q, I gotta be honest… we’ve got Issac coming in, and the kid can really shoot. I know Marcus can’t shoot, but he’s fast, long, passes well and is an elite defender… And Devon and Ochai… well, you know. We’re gonna have to work on your game really hard this Summer in a lot of areas”.
stoptheflop said:
Self challenging Mitch by yelling soft is his way of charging up his junior. Self must see Q as more fragile and knows Q needs more time to figure it out. A coach has to know which players benefit from criticism and which players would shrink from it.
Absolutely. But surely on a team with such lofty expectations that must be very clear to Grimes, whether it’s being yelled at him or not.
I don’t think there is any shelter for Grimes.
I wonder what happened there. You hit reply on someone’s comment then hit the cloud with the arrow on it and chose the file from your machine @kjayhawks ? Or was this something you were trying to link to on other site?
Self yells “you’re soft” at Mitch. Mitch hasn’t been soft for 2 weeks. Does Self yell “you’re soft” at Grimes, I wonder? I’m sure he thinks it.
@kjayhawks you’ve done more recent research on him than I have. I was just going on the fact that when he has ball and steps into his shot or gets hit in the chest he can shoot. When he has to turn and shoot he can’t hit anything. Its a stark difference.
@HighEliteMajor I have to agree. At this point the Grimes experiment as a starter should be over.
The kid’s shot is erratic. I dont see a confidence issue on his shot. I see a guy incapable of playing off ball. A player who is not comfortable with the catch and shoot and needs reps reps reps and more reps. Hell, I see a kid who might have benefited tremendously from a redshirt in an alternate universe. And with the emergency of Agbaji and Devon in their current form, what good is a wing who can’t shoot and is slow on D? Devon, Agbaji and Garrett are all superior to Grimes in every way, save maybe one small point which is at this point splitting hairs. I believe Grimes is a superior passer (slightly) to Agbaji, but who cares? Earlier I was willing to see Grimes at point, but Devon is just too good there now. All ships have sailed on the Grimes experiment.
Charlie has even outplayed Grimes recently. I would not be shocked by a Q transfer in the off-season.
wissox said:
Are they switching our game to another channel?
Yup
Cool hand Teahan as Max would say!
UVA was not a good fit for Shayok.
Charlie was substantially better than Q today it feels like (without checking box score)
Bill should use all his timeouts.
Ohh the complimentary to Kansas section is over. Now on to being Duke fluffers.
BShark said:
Crimsonorblue22 said:
@BShark really maybe try coaching these teams w/all these injuries
Fran would develop a coach K back problem to avoid getting the Ls on his record.
Haha. We should be the Kansas Elephants. We never forget.
We are gonna watch every meaningless minute of this game or I’m complaining hahaha
wissox said:
This is great. bigger chance to miss the beginning of the duke game.
Lolol no cutting over you a-holes!
Woooo blowout fatigue . Feels good :yawn:
Memorieeees 
Check out @FrankMason0’s Tweet: https://twitter.com/FrankMason0/status/850184387836616704?s=09
Unlike Wendy’s, maybe Burger King will give Devon free Burgers for life if he wins the Wooden Award. He should tweet them.
Charlie playing in the flow. It’s true
Mitch not giving them anything easy.
I wish Agbaji could jump a little better.
Here we go. expect a 7-0 run to start after this tv timeout.
I second the motion for a timeout + Bill Self asschewing.
See its KJ + Charlie, always. Doesn’t exactly feel fair to KJ.
tundrahok said:
@approxinfinity Chuck played 3 minutes according to the box score I’m watching. The only player not to score in the first half.
gotcha! ok thank you. i wonder who espn gave his minutes to 
they still dont have him in.
I dont know I don’t want to damn the kid. Its just a little hard to watch. @Crimsonorblue22 Yeah, something feels disconnected. I dont know if its skills related or a mental block that can be overcome.
DanR said:
@stoptheflop chuck played in the first half… did ok. No stupid no-look shots
I thought he did too but he wasnt on the box score at halftime.
stoptheflop said:
I guess Chuck’s finally out of the rotation. Will he even get mop up minutes?
I assumed he got in b/c KJ got in. Guess not. Good. KJ deserves non-Chuck-accompanied minutes.
@Fightsongwriter Get in line buddy! No. the line STARTS here points to back of line
j/k j/k
its a bandwagon, not a line.
Devon went after that rebound when no one else would.
Let’s try that again. Halftime stats.
DanR said:
@approxinfinity Huggins was not happy when he heard the freethrow ratio was 35-3
ha! thats right.
Let me try that again .Sorry guys lol… I coached my 7 year olds team at 10:30 until my voice gave out. Then did the box score at my 9 year olds playoff game, yelling my ass off… middle aged moment