Life after flattening?
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@Crimsonorblue22 Yeah. According to this no state really does.
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Stay in Kansas as the surrounding areas aren’t looking good! “The bump in coronavirus cases is most pronounced in states without stay at home orders. Oklahoma saw a 53% increase in cases over the past week, according to data compiled by Johns Hopkins University. Over same time, cases jumped 60% in Arkansas, 74% in Nebraska, and 82% in Iowa. South Dakota saw a whopping 205% spike. The remaining states, North Dakota, Utah and Wyoming each saw an increase in cases, but more in line with other places that have stay-at-home orders. And all of those numbers may very well undercount the total cases, given a persistent lack of testing across the US.”
That from this: https://www.cnn.com/2020/04/17/politics/republican-governors-stay-at-home-coronavirus/index.html
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Ugh: this suggests the virus is airborne… much more than the 6 foot.
https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S016041202031254X
I need to vet this publication… but looks legit at first glance.
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I think we r 50th. In western ks, Ford co has 84 cases today, up 10. Guessing it’s a meat packing plant, they haven’t said. Western ks has been relatively safe. Rural Kansas will start feeling those effects. People go to dodge for groceries, supplies and healthcare.
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@benshawks08 s Dakota is that meat packing plant. They’ve closed several others.
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Another fact from the hutch news, Another five outbreaks around the state are attributed to church gatherings, with 79 related illnesses.
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@Crimsonorblue22 said in Life after flattening?:
I think we r 50th. In western ks, Ford co has 84 cases today, up 10. Guessing it’s a meat packing plant, they haven’t said. Western ks has been relatively safe. Rural Kansas will start feeling those effects. People go to dodge for groceries, supplies and healthcare.
Idaho fell below KS so now we (KS) are 49th in the country in testing. For all the good Governor Kelly has done she needs to figure out a way to get some more damn test.
Oh and also figure out the Unemployment Bs. There are so many people that can’t file and or have not yet received a dime.
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@Woodrow you do know the system is from the 1970’s? They were in the process of replacing some of it when this hit and had to shut down. In 2011 they received Money to replace and update, guess what? Brokeback didn’t do it! They are uncovering several things that money was allotted for and didn’t get done. He was truly the worst and left them in a deep dark hole. I think they have gotten things rolling, patched together. Hired more to help. I listen to her daily conferences. Her and the KDHE, dr Norman. I think they are a pretty good team and she had 2 ladies from Dept of Labor on the other day explaining how to get thru the system. It’s definitely not for lack of their hard work. I know dentists are using 3D printers to making the swabs. Orders on they way get stopped and sent to other states. Sucks.
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Fun story from my days at the state. The state bought $10 million in computer hardware and the agencies never even took it out of Saran Wrap. It was in the basement of Docking until a year or two ago when they donated it to K-State.
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@FarmerJayhawk oh good gosh! Not very fun considering people are struggling and blaming Kelly
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@FarmerJayhawk so how can that not be accounted for? How would you know that?
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@bskeet it’s all theoretical. Possible. Hope for the best, assume the worst.
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@benshawks08 said in Life after flattening?:
@jayballer73 Love that your order is 1. Bbal, 2. buckets, 3. football 4. Only kinda football.
lmao ya that pretty much sums it up lol
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@Crimsonorblue22 said in Life after flattening?:
@FarmerJayhawk so how can that not be accounted for? How would you know that?
Government gonna government. We were doing a fact finding mission looking at the state’s building needs and while we were in the basement of Docking we see this big pallet of stuff all wrapped in plastic. One member asked what it was and the research staffer along told us about the computer equipment. I think it made the local papers later. We were all dumbfounded.
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@FarmerJayhawk seems like I remember them wanting to get rid of that building and I think they gave a bunch of stuff away.who exactly were you working for? Was it outdated? I bet that was what Kelly was talking about yesterday. Brokeback was a pos.
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@Crimsonorblue22 the approps chair. I think it was about 5 years old at the time, so that would make it almost 10 now. Turns out it’s insanely expensive to get rid of Docking because the power plant for the Capitol complex is in the basement.
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@FarmerJayhawk did it smell really bad?
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@Crimsonorblue22 said in Life after flattening?:
@FarmerJayhawk did it smell really bad?
Not that I remember! It was eerie seeing all the vacant floors there though.
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@FarmerJayhawk I remember they couldn’t find a way to use it for some reason. Sure like to know who gave that away. What a waste!
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Hey if anyone wants to take delivery of 1000+ barrels of oil by May 1 at Edmund, Oklahoma you can have it for -$17 https://finance.yahoo.com/quote/CL=F?p=CL=F&.tsrc=fin-srch
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@FarmerJayhawk hurts!
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yeah… they pay you $18/barrel to take the oil. That’s a good deal for someone who has some latent capacity… Of course, it’s crude, so it isn’t like you could use it without a refinery… Still, not good if you’re an oil baron.
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@bskeet Sorry we can’t cash in!
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Huge blow to ks economy
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However bad that is, the hit to agriculture and stock farmers might be equal. A piece on PBS Newshour showed farmers dredging lettuce and beans because they can’t get them to markets. Made me sick to see those crops being tilled.
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The sad truth is that because we don’t know enough about COVID-19, life after flattening may be a series of fits and starts as we get small flare ups in different locations.
We also don’t know what the long term consequences will be for those that were infected. Are we talking about long term lung damage that makes them more susceptible to other illnesses (asthma, pneumonia, bronchitis, etc.) in the future? Is there damage to other areas of the body due to the drop in oxygen (thinking specifically about brain, heart and kidney trauma, as those areas need oxygenated blood flow to function properly)?
And furthermore, what happens with the medical bills of those that were in ICU and intubated for a long time? That’s thousands of dollars per day in care. One of the leading causes of bankruptcy in America is medical debt. Are we going to see people filing for bankruptcy next year as a result of COVID-19 related bills? And that’s the people that survived!
We haven’t even covered those that lost their primary income because the breadwinner died (or is permanently unable to work) as a result of COVID-19. There have been 42,000 deaths so far. That’s thousands of families that will never be the same because they lost someone. There’s a unique story within each of those deaths that can’t be dismissed. Some families won’t be “getting back to normal” no matter what happens with restarting the economy because the people that were normally in their life aren’t here anymore.
I don’t know what this looks like going forward, but it isn’t going to be as simple as just flipping a switch.
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@justanotherfan But I thought all we have to do to get back to normal is to carry a sign demanding freedom from good sense, and then have Donald Trump issue a Captain Picard order: “Make it so.”
Geez, you mean life involves crap like science and knowledge and stuff?
NO! I WANT MY MAGA RALLIES!!!
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Speaking of science and stuff… https://apnews.com/a5077c7227b8eb8b0dc23423c0bbe2b2
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@benshawks08 shocker
dr trump!
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Don’t assume that people are idiots on their own @mayjay:
https://www.reddit.com/r/maryland/comments/g3niq3/i_simply_cannot_believe_that_people_are/fnstpyl/
^ Astroturfing campaigns going on to incite protesters.
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@approxinfinity It takes some stupid followers for anyone doing the reciting to be successful.
John Oliver covers these things almost weekly.
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https://bfi.uchicago.edu/wp-content/uploads/BFI_WP_202044.pdf
New paper from Uchicgao economist on Hannity watchers having higher death rates than Tucker Carlson viewers. Two conservative voices with qualitatively different messages from early Feb - early March (where the messages converged) …and different outcomes for the consumers.
If true, strong evidence that the decisions that people make are only as good as the information upon which those decisions are based.
This is NOT PEER REVIEWED, but appears to be dripping in rigor. 90 pages. I’m still slogging through it.
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@bskeet said in Life after flattening?:
https://bfi.uchicago.edu/wp-content/uploads/BFI_WP_202044.pdf
New paper from Uchicgao economist on Hannity watchers having higher death rates than Tucker Carlson viewers. Two conservative voices with qualitatively different messages from early Feb - early March (where the messages converged) …and different outcomes for the consumers.
If true, strong evidence that the decisions that people make are only as good as the information upon which those decisions are based.
This is NOT PEER REVIEWED, but appears to be dripping in rigor. 90 pages. I’m still slogging through it.
I’m somewhat skeptical of IV as an identification strategy but the results are interesting
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@FarmerJayhawk Yeah, the results of a study are only as good as the method
my memory of instrumental variable approach is fuzzy, so please share thoughts if you see something questionable… I’m assuming they implemented it properly… but not sure if there are concerns with the employment of that method (and if there was a better alternative.)
