Tyon Grant Foster commits to KU
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Getting 17 pts a game in only 23 minutes a game. He’s improved leaps and bounds. Turnover numbers are a bit alarming but I’ll wait to see him in uniform here. I’m excited to see what he’s got, have a feeling Self is right on the money
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@BeddieKU23 That’s his biggest issue for sure, but he is a great athlete and is tenacious.
Bill is always going to talk up players to the media before he gets them but it still stood out to me that Bill told Tyon there is no reason he can’t play 25-30 minutes a game next year during recruiting.
Plus it sure seems that Tyon just loves KU. Don’t remember the exact article it was in but his JUCO coach said he basically knew it was over from the first time KU visited because it was just different and Tyon’s eyes lit up/bugged out when he saw the KU coaches.
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Always happy to see when recruits are geeked out to be at KU.
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Plans to be OAD (have this on good authority). Also he’s a bad bad dude.
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@BShark said in Tyon Grant Foster commits to KU:
Plans to be OAD (have this on good authority). Also he’s a bad bad dude.
Yikes
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@BeddieKU23 He’s good enough to do it. If he gets big minutes KU will spotlight him well enough.
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He is talented but I’m going to side with caution here that he’s going to take some time. Just from a few games I watched I see a bit of a learning curve for him
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@BeddieKU23 said in Tyon Grant Foster commits to KU:
He is talented but I’m going to side with caution here that he’s going to take some time. Just from a few games I watched I see a bit of a learning curve for him
I agree, that’s just “the plan”.
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@BShark said in Tyon Grant Foster commits to KU:
@BeddieKU23 said in Tyon Grant Foster commits to KU:
He is talented but I’m going to side with caution here that he’s going to take some time. Just from a few games I watched I see a bit of a learning curve for him
I agree, that’s just “the plan”.
I wonder if it’s ever been done.
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It’s amazing to me how many kids come into college with plans that are just non negotiable. Not saying that is the case here but it’s amazing how many kids make awful decisions even with the information spelled out for them.
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@BShark the guy is going to be a very good player for us.
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I don’t see TGF having a big impact next season. He only had 3 games last season where he shot over 50% from the field. He was 27% from 3 and 37% overall. If he shot that poorly against defenses nowhere near what he’ll see in the B12, I struggle to see him cracking the rotation next season once Self trims it.
I just don’t see him being a significant contributor for KU next year with the depth Self has at the 3 and 4 spots. Ochai, Braun, Enaruna, Lightfoot, and Wilson that are already here are his competition for minutes. I think it’s far more likely he would be a factor in 2021-22 and even then, I could see him getting stuck in a logjam.
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@Woodrow said in Tyon Grant Foster commits to KU:
it’s amazing how many kids make awful decisions even with the information spelled out for them.
As opposed to all the adults setting good examples for them by making intelligent decisions even with the info spelled out for them!
https://www.businessinsider.com/cruise-ships-shut-out-of-ports-leaving-passengers-uncertain-2020-3
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@Texas-Hawk-10 https://indianhills.prestosports.com/sports/mbkb/2019-20/bios/grant-foster_tyon_nqkj
Those were his fr state when he was injured and barely played. He was a lot better this year.
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@BShark said in Tyon Grant Foster commits to KU:
@Texas-Hawk-10 https://indianhills.prestosports.com/sports/mbkb/2019-20/bios/grant-foster_tyon_nqkj
Those were his fr state when he was injured and barely played. He was a lot better this year.
I got you @BShark the guy is going to play well for us, contribute bigtime. He’s going to get PT, no doubt.
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@Marco said in Tyon Grant Foster commits to KU:
@BShark said in Tyon Grant Foster commits to KU:
@Texas-Hawk-10 https://indianhills.prestosports.com/sports/mbkb/2019-20/bios/grant-foster_tyon_nqkj
Those were his fr state when he was injured and barely played. He was a lot better this year.
I got you @BShark the guy is going to play well for us, contribute bigtime. He’s going to get PT, no doubt.
Who does he play over next season? Out of Ochai, Braun, Enaruna, Lightfoot, and Wilson, who does he play ahead of?
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@Texas-Hawk-10 I could easily see it with Tristan and Jalen. I’m interested to see how it shakes out we got 11 guys hoping for minutes and Self will play 9 at most, probably 8.
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@Texas-Hawk-10 possibly Enaruna or Wilson?I’m assuming Mitch gets minutes but his minutes have a ceiling. Maybe 10-15
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@Texas-Hawk-10 said in Tyon Grant Foster commits to KU:
@Marco said in Tyon Grant Foster commits to KU:
@BShark said in Tyon Grant Foster commits to KU:
@Texas-Hawk-10 https://indianhills.prestosports.com/sports/mbkb/2019-20/bios/grant-foster_tyon_nqkj
Those were his fr state when he was injured and barely played. He was a lot better this year.
I got you @BShark the guy is going to play well for us, contribute bigtime. He’s going to get PT, no doubt.
Who does he play over next season? Out of Ochai, Braun, Enaruna, Lightfoot, and Wilson, who does he play ahead of?
Enaruna, Lightfoot, Wilson. I don’t think Mitch plays that much. He’ll be the third string center (probably under 10 MPG)
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@FarmerJayhawk I still think Mitch starts at the 4 next season. That’s the primary reason he redshirted this season was because of the available PT next year.
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@Texas-Hawk-10 well he gets a free year of college and gets to play on possibly 2 championship contending KU teams. It seems like that’s what the kid grew up dreaming of. I don’t think not starting next year was a deal breaker to red shirting.
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@approxinfinity said in Tyon Grant Foster commits to KU:
@Texas-Hawk-10 well he gets a free year of college and gets to play on possibly 2 championship contending KU teams. It seems like that’s what the kid grew up dreaming of. I don’t think not starting next year was a deal breaker to red shirting.
But Self isn’t redshirting someone for their would be senior season to sit them on the bench the following season. Mitch isn’t the guy that’s going to out up eye popping stats, but he’s the garbage man/glue guy on the team next season. He’s going to play, and he’s going to get 20-25 mpg next season because of all of the intangibles he brings to the table.
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If Mitch starts and Bill goes back to two bigs I might have a bonfire with some alumni shirts. Please no, Bill.
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Guessing starters will be Thompson, Garrett, Ochai, Braun, and Dave.
Harris, Wilson, Grant-Foster, De Sousa/Mitch see good minutes off the bench. De Sousa/Mitch and Enaruna get small minutes off the bench.
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@FarmerJayhawk said in Tyon Grant Foster commits to KU:
@Texas-Hawk-10 said in Tyon Grant Foster commits to KU:
@Marco said in Tyon Grant Foster commits to KU:
@BShark said in Tyon Grant Foster commits to KU:
@Texas-Hawk-10 https://indianhills.prestosports.com/sports/mbkb/2019-20/bios/grant-foster_tyon_nqkj
Those were his fr state when he was injured and barely played. He was a lot better this year.
I got you @BShark the guy is going to play well for us, contribute bigtime. He’s going to get PT, no doubt.
Who does he play over next season? Out of Ochai, Braun, Enaruna, Lightfoot, and Wilson, who does he play ahead of?
Enaruna, Lightfoot, Wilson. I don’t think Mitch plays that much. He’ll be the third string center (probably under 10 MPG)
I think Mitch plays more of the range of 13-17 minutes a game, Will play some four.
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@BShark said in Tyon Grant Foster commits to KU:
If Mitch starts and Bill goes back to two bigs I might have a bonfire with some alumni shirts. Please no, Bill.
Mitch is a stretch 4 on offense, he’s a face up guy that can knock down perimeter shots. Mitch playing the 4 isn’t the same as Dave playing the 4.
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Mitch has made 10 3-pointers (10/30 = 33.3%) in 1,032 minutes played at Kansas. That’s an average of one made 3-pointer every 103 minutes. He’s not stretching anything at that rate.
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@Texas-Hawk-10 I am definitely taking the under on 20-25 minutes for Mitch. I think Self is perfectly happy having Mitch at practice and on the bench for 2 years instead of 1 regardless of his role in-game.
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@approxinfinity said in Tyon Grant Foster commits to KU:
@Texas-Hawk-10 I am definitely taking the under on 20-25 minutes for Mitch. I think Self is perfectly happy having Mitch at practice and on the bench for 2 years instead of 1 regardless of his role in-game.
Self didn’t redshirt Mitch to sit him next year. If that’s Self’s plan, then what was the purpose of redshirting him this year? If that’s the idea, then that’s a total waste of a scholarship this season when Self could’ve used it on another player. Self redshirted Mitch to play him this season.
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@KirkIsMyHinrich said in Tyon Grant Foster commits to KU:
Mitch has made 10 3-pointers (10/30 = 33.3%) in 1,032 minutes played at Kansas. That’s an average of one made 3-pointer every 103 minutes. He’s not stretching anything at that rate.
The year you might want to focus on is 2017-18 when Mitch played the 4. The other two years, he was primarily at the 5 because of Doke’s injuries. He played away from the basket where he had his highest PER, highest offensive rebound rate, and highest block rate, and also his minutes per game and best shooting season.
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@Texas-Hawk-10 said in Tyon Grant Foster commits to KU:
@KirkIsMyHinrich said in Tyon Grant Foster commits to KU:
Mitch has made 10 3-pointers (10/30 = 33.3%) in 1,032 minutes played at Kansas. That’s an average of one made 3-pointer every 103 minutes. He’s not stretching anything at that rate.
The year you might want to focus on is 2017-18 when Mitch played the 4. The other two years, he was primarily at the 5 because of Doke’s injuries. He played away from the basket where he had his highest PER, highest offensive rebound rate, and highest block rate, and also his minutes per game and best shooting season.
Mitch played almost exclusively at the 5 in 17-18, backing up Doke. Only other big on the roster was Silvio and he didn’t play hardly at all until the regular season was about over.
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@Texas-Hawk-10 said in Tyon Grant Foster commits to KU:
@approxinfinity said in Tyon Grant Foster commits to KU:
@Texas-Hawk-10 I am definitely taking the under on 20-25 minutes for Mitch. I think Self is perfectly happy having Mitch at practice and on the bench for 2 years instead of 1 regardless of his role in-game.
Self didn’t redshirt Mitch to sit him next year. If that’s Self’s plan, then what was the purpose of redshirting him this year? If that’s the idea, then that’s a total waste of a scholarship this season when Self could’ve used it on another player. Self redshirted Mitch to play him this season.
I disagree. With 13 scholarships and a rotation typically of max 8, Self can spend a scholarship on a quality character that makes the team better. Look at our chemistry this year. Outstanding. Mitch I’m sure played a part.
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Dang you guys are getting me excited for next year!
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@KirkIsMyHinrich said in Tyon Grant Foster commits to KU:
Guessing starters will be Thompson, Garrett, Ochai, Braun, and Dave.
Harris, Wilson, Grant-Foster, De Sousa/Mitch see good minutes off the bench. De Sousa/Mitch and Enaruna get small minutes off the bench.
Bingo. That’s how I see it and that’s the most logical lineup.
4 of those guys played big minutes on the team this year. The key will be getting Thompson comfortable in a big role.
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Mitch looked solid in preseason this year. We know what he brings. If he can shoot more consistently with all the time to work on things like that I see him having a role. Self is going to need someone who can protect the basket and take charges and he is that guy
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@BeddieKU23 he will play for sure. But unless he has a 3 gun or plays significantly better defense than Tristan, Jalen (or Tyon?) I’m assuming they will get the nod over Mitch in must win situations. I can see Mitch starting the season as a starter, but Im not sure he will finish it as one.
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@approxinfinity Tristan didn’t play defense, and Jalen has comparable athleticism to Ellis so he’s going to be a subpar defender as well.
Mitch is the best defensive post player KU will have next season. McCormack is not a strong defender. Mitch is also the best help defender Self has ever had in the paint. Mitch will play 20-25 minutes per game next season. On offense, he’s going to be the guy setting screens and doing all of the dirty work on offense for KU. He’s going to fill a role that’s needed next season that wasn’t needed this year because of how dominant Doke was.
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I think starters will be garret pg, Thompson sg, ochai sf, lightfoot pf, McCormick center… When lightfoot is out, we will play 4 guards with a combination of braun, wilson, tristian, foster. Depending on who plays well. Silvio plays back up center minutes. Maybe a few minutes from Harris at pg… I think Latrell and gethro redshirt.
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How many games will BD foul out?
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@Crimsonorblue22 said in Tyon Grant Foster commits to KU:
How many games will BD foul out?
Under 5. Dave averages under 5 fouls per game so he knows how to play without fouling. His issues on that end are going to be that he’s a bad rebounder for his size. He only gets 18.5% defensive rebounds, and he doesn’t block shots, only a 3.3% block rate last season.
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@Crimsonorblue22 a lot if he doesn’t change his ways. Some in mere minutes. Lol he’s a spaz
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@Texas-Hawk-10 if he averaged over 5 a game that would be impressive! Rules and all…
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Dave is likely going to improve and get some slack from the refs. I think more than anything we need Mitch as a back-up 5.
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@dylans said in Tyon Grant Foster commits to KU:
@Texas-Hawk-10 if he averaged over 5 a game that would be impressive! Rules and all…
Since that number is based on per 40 minutes, you can average over 5 per 40 minutes, but nice try.
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@BShark said in Tyon Grant Foster commits to KU:
Dave is likely going to improve and get some slack from the refs. I think more than anything we need Mitch as a back-up 5.
The back up 5 is going to be Silvio because he is the best rebounder of the group of bigs KU will have next season.
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@Texas-Hawk-10 think we will need all three at some point.
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@BShark said in Tyon Grant Foster commits to KU:
@Texas-Hawk-10 think we will need all three at some point.
We will, but I think most of Mitch’s minutes are going to come at the 4 spot next season. I think the only time he plays the 5 is when Self goes really small or both Dave and Silvio get in foul trouble.
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@Texas-Hawk-10 said in Tyon Grant Foster commits to KU:
@dylans said in Tyon Grant Foster commits to KU:
@Texas-Hawk-10 if he averaged over 5 a game that would be impressive! Rules and all…
Since that number is based on per 40 minutes, you can average over 5 per 40 minutes, but nice try.
Oh, you didn’t clarify you were talking about his fouls per 40 minutes. That’s a different thing than an average. His average for fouls is 1.7 byw
4.7 fouls per 40 minutes is…umm not good.
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@dylans said in Tyon Grant Foster commits to KU:
@Texas-Hawk-10 said in Tyon Grant Foster commits to KU:
@dylans said in Tyon Grant Foster commits to KU:
@Texas-Hawk-10 if he averaged over 5 a game that would be impressive! Rules and all…
Since that number is based on per 40 minutes, you can average over 5 per 40 minutes, but nice try.
Oh, you didn’t clarify you were talking about his fouls per 40 minutes. That’s a different thing than an average. His average for fouls is 1.7 byw
4.7 fouls per 40 minutes is…umm not good.
Sub 5 fouls per 40 minutes is actually good for a big man. Doke averaged over 5 fouls per 40 minutes until this season, Mitch was over 6 fouls per 40 minutes in his first 3 seasons, and Silvio’s small sample size is at 8 fouls per 40 minutes. Dave knows how to play defense without fouling.
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@Texas-Hawk-10 as evidenced by fouling out in 4 minutes. Lol he’s getting better, but his arms are wild. I hope he can be consistently available down the stretch.
