2019 Transfer List
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@jayballer73 grad transfer so eligible immediately. He’s not a PG. Looks like he does a bit of everything, won’t be a star for us but a solid contributor. Shot 42% from three last year on 114 attempts.
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2/3, designated sniper. Bench depth since we just need bodies at this point.
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FarmerJayhawk said:
2/3, designated sniper. Bench depth since we just need bodies at this point.
Great minds think alike…
I’d certainly take him at this point as well. After missing on Tucker that is to say, but it was worth pursuing Tucker first.
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@jayballer73 we could’ve used him against Auburn…
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KUSTEVE said:
@jayballer73 we could’ve used him against Auburn…
No doubt there. Moss has nothing to do with Hampton, just like Tucker didn’t.
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Stealth visits like this seem to be a huge positive. It means that things are moving quickly, one would think. Would love to close on this kid, get more positive momentum and immediately helps shore up a weakness on next year’s team.
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BShark said:
@jayballer73 grad transfer so eligible immediately. He’s not a PG. Looks like he does a bit of everything, won’t be a star for us but a solid contributor. Shot 42% from three last year on 114 attempts.
ya also looks like he takes pretty good care of the ball – good free throw shooter - -good shooter over all
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@KUSTEVE nice height to him too 6’6 his stroke looks pretty decent
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IOWA TRANSFER ISAIAH MOSS IS DOWN TO 4 SCHOOL ARKANSAS ARIZONA STATE KU AND OREGON
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Wants to stay close to home (Chicago). If that’s the criteria, two horse race.
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HighEliteMajor said:
Wants to stay close to home (Chicago). If that’s the criteria, two horse race.
HE NOT STAY CLOSE TO HOME
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HighEliteMajor said:
Wants to stay close to home (Chicago). If that’s the criteria, two horse race.
then that would have to be KU & Arkansas then right?
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Gonna be a fun bench piece. I hope.
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This one moved fast.
He’s a good 3 point shooter so that spot up role is something I think he could fill. His PER is alarming (14) which shows up in his low FG % and average at best stat line.
Post Tucker you have to take a guy like this. He can shoot which we need desperately and he has 102 games experience in a Big-10 program. You’d think if he stayed at Iowa he was a double digit scorer his final year. If he can even give us 5-6 ppg its worth it. This is an instant plug and play guy in some way
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@BeddieKU23 Right. We’re filling holes now. There seems no reasonable wing options beyond RJ — so PER be da**ed… Tucker had a shiny 21.8 last season.
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And while Tucker put up that PER at a smaller school and conference he was the man on his team and performed every night. Missing on him on paper is a huge gut punch. Character wise he might be worth missing based on his recent activity but his athleticism and shot making ability would have upgraded the roster big time. Tucker was potentially option #2 or #3 in the offense. Moss is probably a role player depending on how he potentially fit in with the teams needs.
One thing that stood out about Moss to me was his reluctance to piss off Iowa fans by transferring in-conference. I liked that. Some kids still have some respect for where they play.
I saw one Iowa fan on another board chime in on him and said he’s a hot and cold shooter. Mentioned confidence being an issue (hot and cold).
With 96 starts under his belt this is a low risk option. Unless the 2020 kid reclassifies KU is out of elite level options at the wing. Moss is a solid level P5 player that has some value shooting the ball. Nothing he does is flashy but he’ll fit in a team and do his job. This isn’t a flashy signing potentially but it also potentially stops some bleeding.
The potential for this upcoming season rests a ton on other pieces. Dotson (returning), Silvio (appeal), Hampton (signing). KU needs them all or its a fringe Top-25 team at best
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BeddieKU23 said:
This one moved fast.
He’s a good 3 point shooter so that spot up role is something I think he could fill. His PER is alarming (14) which shows up in his low FG % and average at best stat line.
Post Tucker you have to take a guy like this. He can shoot which we need desperately and he has 102 games experience in a Big-10 program. You’d think if he stayed at Iowa he was a double digit scorer his final year. If he can even give us 5-6 ppg its worth it. This is an instant plug and play guy in some way
I hadn’t really paid or heard much of the kid - -BUT after he entered the transfer - had over 50 schools reach out. - - Said he couldn’t accept anything from any other Big 10 school out of respect for Iowa - -and same went for Iowa St
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He was a 3 year starter at Iowa. From what I saw of him this past year he was pretty good. Nothing spectacular from this guy but he’s good enough to play. He’s a solid player that can shoot and provide some toughness/leadership as a Senior with almost 100 starts under his belt. He doesn’t turn the ball over a ton for a guard but he doesn’t contribute a ton either (average rbs, assists numbers).
This could be a glue guy that ends up being important for a team like this in rebuild mode. We’ve missed on several better options but maybe this guy will fit Self’s system better and compliment a guy like Garrett.
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@BeddieKU23 You take him and Garrett and roll them together, and you’d have an All American…
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KUSTEVE said:
@BeddieKU23 You take him and Garrett and roll them together, and you’d have an All American…
DO WE HAVE THE TECHNOLOGY?
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@BShark I dunno… but I heard the Transformers might be able to help.
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BTW, that Jalen Wilson would be a God send.
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KUSTEVE said:
@BeddieKU23 You take him and Garrett and roll them together, and you’d have an All American…
Boom!
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KUSTEVE said:
BTW, that Jalen Wilson would be a God send.
Yupp he’s got a point forward to his game. Not a true 4 man but he just kept growing to 6’8/6’9. Legitimate guard skills at his size and shooting ability. He was one I really wanted last spring and Belein shut his recruitment down. If he’s looking to be closer to home now KU is a great fit
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I have two friends that are Iowa fans. Asked them about Moss and their two responses were:
“Let’s just say I’m not sad that he’s moving on.”
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“If he’s KU’s best option as an add then they’re in trouble.”
Neither of my buddies are the bitter-type either. Not exactly a ringing endorsement if that’s all KU can add at this point grad transfer-wise.
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focojayhawk said:
I have two friends that are Iowa fans. Asked them about Moss and their two responses were:
“Let’s just say I’m not sad that he’s moving on.”
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“If he’s KU’s best option as an add then they’re in trouble.”
Neither of my buddies are the bitter-type either. Not exactly a ringing endorsement if that’s all KU can add at this point grad transfer-wise.
The gist I got is that he is similar to Vick and Selden. If his first couple shots go down watch out but he is extremely inconsistent. Also a laid back kind of guy that clashed with their coach a bit, not sure he is a fit with Self if true.
I think he’s fine as a bench piece but not a starter.
If the fail case is starting Dotson, Garrett and Agbaji it’s not the end of the world but adding RJ would solve a lot of issues…
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Moss could be a nice addition. He’s not the player that Tucker is, but he gives the guard rotation some more depth.
The downside is that he gives us depth - he’s not a guy that can carry the load. He’s a nice piece if you already have guys to carry the load in place. That was one of Iowa’s problems with him. He was a good player, but not so good that he could make up for the shortcomings on the rest of the roster.
This current KU roster is still a good, but flawed roster. Moss would be a good addition, but he isn’t going to cover up any of the flaws already existing with the roster.
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focojayhawk said:
I have two friends that are Iowa fans. Asked them about Moss and their two responses were:
“Let’s just say I’m not sad that he’s moving on.”
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“If he’s KU’s best option as an add then they’re in trouble.”
Neither of my buddies are the bitter-type either. Not exactly a ringing endorsement if that’s all KU can add at this point grad transfer-wise.
Thanks for posting.
It sounds as if he underachieved a bit to expectation after a good Soph year.
KU’s best options went elsewhere. Now in Plan XYZ mode just trying to get bodies to have
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@BShark i noticed after he scored 19 points in 96 seconds, the next game he went 0 for 7 in 23 minutes, and then was given 14 minutes the next game after that. Not sure if he is just inconsistent, or Iowa has a quick hook. he scored 20 against the Clones, and scored 16 against Tenn. he’s a riddle…
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Bill Self patented the quick hook. The Grimes situation seems baffling on first glance but recruiting optics is my guess.
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KJ Lawson to Tulane.
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@BShark And good luck to him.
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Jermarl Baker ended up at Arizona.
Can’t make this stuff up
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BeddieKU23 said:
Jermarl Baker ended up at Arizona.
Can’t make this stuff up
From one bench to another.
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BShark said:
BeddieKU23 said:
Jermarl Baker ended up at Arizona.
Can’t make this stuff up
From one bench to another.
That was great!
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BeddieKU23 said:
Jermarl Baker ended up at Arizona.
Can’t make this stuff up
Crazy - -these recruits STILL going to play for SSS - - + SWEET SWEATY STUMPY - - - unreal. - - -ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY
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CHRIS CLARKE FROM VIRGINIA TECH HAS TRANSFER TO TEXAS TECH
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Moss to Arkansas. Sup Kyree
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@FarmerJayhawk Did KU actually offer Moss?
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FarmerJayhawk said:
Moss to Arkansas. Sup Kyree
What a boss move there. Come on down Walker
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FarmerJayhawk said:
BShark said:
@FarmerJayhawk Did KU actually offer Moss?
Not that I know of.
Sure seems that they didn’t but I wasn’t fully sure. Definitely wasn’t anything reported.
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Oh hey, per Bedore KU did NOT offer. Seems big.
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BShark said:
Oh hey, per Bedore KU did NOT offer. Seems big.
Good catch! Yeah, it sure seems like the staff thinks they’ll get at least one more wing that’s better than Moss.
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And you guys think that’s Walker?
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They still like their chances with Precious. But I think Walker is more likely.
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Would definitely rather have Walker.
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Or Jalen or Barnes or Cunningham.
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KirkIsMyHinrich said:
Or Jalen or Barnes or Cunningham.
We will end up only getting the one guy we don’t want this class lol
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FarmerJayhawk said:
They still like their chances with Precious. But I think Walker is more likely.
STILL got to get Kyree to re-classify yet right? - - - Kid is a beast - -they say like no position layer can play so many - yep i’ll take me some please