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On the Phog. Get in a post before it’s locked!
https://247sports.com/college/kansas/Board/103719/Contents/Senior-Day-for-Self-129845889/
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I’ve heard this repeatedly as well and I think its fictional. People think losing the conference was the last straw which is laughable. I only see him leaving if KU gets blasted back to the stone age by the NCAA. It just sounds silly to me
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@BShark missed it. Page is already gone.
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I’ve heard countless times IF Coach was to leave the one an only NBA - would be to the Spurs because of the connection he has there and with Pops - -I’d never say never - BUT I just don’t think it’s happening THIS year. - Although the rumors out there about this - -is for sure not helping recruiting with everything else that’s going on also with this and everything else. - -ROCk CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY
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Bill self is not going to go anywere let’s stop Acting like his goning to Leave
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JAYHAWKFAN214 said:
Bill self is not going to go anywere let’s stop Acting like his goning to Leave
I truly don’t believe he will either. But if you leaving in the make believe world that no way no how would he leave then you need to put the pipe down and slowly back away. - To say with THAT kind of confidence that he isn’t is just insane.
With the connections he does have with San Antonio - - With this FBI whole Scenario - -with the every day rigors/stress of the constant wear and tear of the recruiting aspect - With him coming out in the past and hinting that he might be interested in Coaching in the NBA - With the struggles/stress he has had this season - -With his Name being prominently mentioned in this FBI sting and paying players or having them be paid
He has NOTHING left to prove at the College level. - - Won Conference championships? - -Check . - - -Winning an NCAA Championship ? - - Check. – Being names a College Hall of fame Coach/inductee ? - -Check. - -Winning the Big 12 post season Championship ? - -Check.- Being Named Coach of the year ?- - Check. There is NOTHING - - - NOTHING at all for him to accomplish at the College level. – So to try and make it sound that it is just ridicilious to think he might leave? - -is even crazier . - -Again I’m NOT saying he will - -but I’m not saying it’s not a possibility either. - -ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY
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@Crimsonorblue22 doesn’t seem too controversial
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@jayballer73 Any coach trying to “prove something” by moving to the NBA at this late stage in a college career would be the insane one. Self’s coaching strategies don’t really seem to develop lots of NBA stars. Currently, it is a star-driven league with isolation offense dominating, not something we have seen at KU except with Frank, perhaps. Why would he risk being a failure?
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mayjay said:
@jayballer73 Any coach trying to “prove something” by moving to the NBA at this late stage in a college career would be the insane one. Self’s coaching strategies don’t really seem to develop lots of NBA stars. Currently, it is a star-driven league with isolation offense dominating, not something we have seen at KU except with Frank, perhaps. Why would he risk being a failure?
With the only real exception being San Antonio… I can’t deny that he fits their culture and organization exceptionally well.
I do agree that he’d be crazy to go though.
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@mayjay basically what he said, gotta know your wheel house.
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One other thing to think about is Self has said he doesn’t want to be coaching by the time he’s coach K’s or Roy’s age. I’d be shocked if he doesn’t retire within the next five seasons. I think he tries to get another NC and pass Phog for wins here before he goes. Obviously baring he gets let go amid major sanctions this summer.
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@BShark Tickets were definitely down this year. My mom works for KU and was able to get $15 tickets through work to every home game except for Nova. Even KSU. I think this is just trying to get people locked in for two seasons so they can focus on filling the rest.
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Product isn’t going to be as good the next couple years. One quote by Bill always stood out to me as being a bit odd. When asked about the streak a couple years ago Self said something along the lines of “We’ve always had the players.” Not the players fought for it, or the players developed, just that KU out talented the league. How do you do that every year? Just seemed fishy to me. I always hoped things would get cleaned up, but I never suspected KU would be in the center of the mess! (Rightfully or not that’s where we are)
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@dylans I get what he is saying for the most part, I agree that KU has had the most talented teams. a few Texas (07), OSU(05) and maybe Tech teams recently are arguably right there with us. This year we don’t have the developed talent without Doke, SDS and Good Vick. Thinking about some of the games we have lost IMO it had more to do with the other teams out hustling us than it did them having more talent, KSU loses in 2014 and 2015 are prime examples of that. It comes back to a saying I told every player I ever coached “Hard work beats talent, when talent doesn’t work hard” and I 100% buy into it.
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kjayhawks said:
“Hard work beats talent, when talent doesn’t work hard”
Did you really come up with that? That’s GOOD stuff man!
That’s like T-shirt or banner material there.
Good stuff
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@nuleafjhawk it’s not an original but I cant remember where it came from.
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@dylans I remember that quote. I always thought it was Self’s way of deflecting credit for the streak from himself to the players. Interesting twist you have suggested.
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kjayhawks said:
@dylans I get what he is saying for the most part, I agree that KU has had the most talented teams. a few Texas (07), OSU(05) and maybe Tech teams recently are arguably right there with us. This year we don’t have the developed talent without Doke, SDS and Good Vick. Thinking about some of the games we have lost IMO it had more to do with the other teams out hustling us than it did them having more talent, KSU loses in 2014 and 2015 are prime examples of that. It comes back to a saying I told every player I ever coached “Hard work beats talent, when talent doesn’t work hard” and I 100% buy into it.
OSU’s Final Four was in 2004 and that team was definitely better than KU, but I don’t know if they were more talented though. That was Self’s first year and those guys were still adjusting to Self.
I don’t know that I would call the KD Texas team better than KU. The only team I would call better than KU during the streak was Oklahoma in 2009 and the only reason the streak got to 14 instead of streaks of 4 and 9 is because Blake Griffin had a concussion and missed the Kansas game that year. A healthy Blake Griffin against Kansas and OU wins the Big 12 in 2009.
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@Texas-Hawk-10 I meant to put 04 on OSU but yes I agree for the most part we have had the better teams and coach for that matter.
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Some yahoo is saying Self to the Bulls is done.
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@BShark If that’s true, would that be worse than when Roy left?
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@nuleafjhawk yes
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BShark said:
Some yahoo is saying Self to the Bulls is done.
was that on Yahoo sports?
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@Crimsonorblue22 Why? Would you hate his guts like I did Roy’s for a few years until I grew up. Mostly.
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Depends on how dirty he really is. If we ever find out that information
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@jayballer73 I searched Yahoo Sports and came up with zip.
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Did you mean Yahoo Sports or some yahoo put there. Rumors are always around but it is the truth that will set you free. Bill isn’t going anywhere.
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HypedJhawk said:
Did you mean Yahoo Sports or some yahoo put there. Rumors are always around but it is the truth that will set you free. Bill isn’t going anywhere.
I meant the slang definition of yahoo or something like that. The guy that put it out there runs a shady sports gambling website. So yeaaaah
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nuleafjhawk said:
@jayballer73 I searched Yahoo Sports and came up with zip.
ya I did too - - -I didn’t see anything
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Self isn’t going anywhere. Full stop.
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Some guy named Brandon Lang who does gambling shows. Says he has a source.
https://twitter.com/nbcsportsradio/status/1106627842425520128?s=12
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Everyone has a source.
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I read from a trustworthy source that Self is not going anywhere.
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Bill to Bulls rumor here. I’ll take your rumor and raise it by 10. https://sports.yahoo.com/rumor-bill-self-coach-bulls-233355524.html
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Self and Hoiberg are close friends and Hoiberg could give Self plenty of insider info on the Bulls.
But I agree that I don’t see any merit to this one. The guy who’s claiming this says he wants to be like Adam Schefter, but Schefter has quality insiders.
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I have a friend - - that has a friend - - that has a friend - - that has a dad – -who has a daughter - -who’s boyfriend - -that has a source - -that say Coach Self for sure going to the Bulls - -we might as well shut the program down. - - ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY
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@jayballer73 I have a cousin, who has a second cousin, who has a guy, who knows a girl, who has a dad, who has a brother, who has a co-worker, who has a bus driver that says Self’s hair is real.
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Fightsongwriter said:
@jayballer73 I have a cousin, who has a second cousin, who has a guy, who knows a girl, who has a dad, who has a brother, who has a co-worker, who has a bus driver that says Self’s hair is real.
lmao - - -now that’s what I call an inside source - -hot tips - -I’ll be asking you for recruiting news for sure lol. - - -ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY
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https://twitter.com/kcstar/status/1107698690926538752?s=21
Pretty strong quotes in here from Bill.
I’m certainly not motivated to be anywhere else than right here, especially during these time.
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I wouldn’t run from that at all. ( talking about FBI)
This is what I have said and always thought. While he obviously could be saying the right things to say them I just don’t see him leaving KU high and dry. If anything I think this will motivate him more than ever to win another title.
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@Woodrow sounds like he wants to stay even longer! Glad someone asked him.
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Well, he sure shot from the hip. Love the line about wanting to coach for a long time and hope this is all from the heart.
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The rumor is hot among some KU donors, particularly after a gambling expert — the one Matthew McConaughey played in a movie! — reported it. Which was weird, but it happened, so we thought Self should be able to address it.
“The Bulls thing is as far-fetched …” he told the Star on Monday. “I don’t know where that came from. I’ve never talked to anybody from the Bulls about any employment opportunities. They have a coach and I’m not a candidate for that position and will not be.”
The next question, then: Are you 100 percent sure you’ll be at Kansas next season?
“I don’t think you can ever say that, because if they decide to go a different direction I guess I won’t be,” Self said. “So I can’t say 100 percent. But here’s what I can say. I’m certainly not at all motivated to be anywhere else than right here, especially during these times.”
By “these times,” he means the NCAA’s pending investigation related to a federal probe into corruption in college basketball recruiting.
“I wouldn’t run from that at all,” he said. “Not at all. And I look forward to visiting (with the NCAA) and certainly the conclusion (of the investigation), and seeing it through. You can quote that.”
This has been a rough season at KU. The 14-year conference championship streak ended, Udoka Azubuike suffered a season-ending injury, Silvio De Sousa was suspended by the NCAA, and Lagerald Vick left the team in February to address personal matters.
But when Self answered the phone on Monday, he seemed eager to not just shoot down the Bulls rumor but to quiet any other potential talk of an NBA job or the NCAA investigation driving him out.
“My motivation is as strong as ever to be the Kansas coach, to further this program, and to see the situation with the NCAA through,” Self said. “Totally through. Never say never, because you don’t know how both parties may feel, but that is my stance and I look forward to being here for a long time.
“I want to add something else, too. I said years ago that I didn’t know if I wanted to coach forever. But this past year has motivated me to remain in this business for a long time. I want it on record that I want to coach for a long time.”
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Bill Self is THE DUDE.
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He almost sounds pissed!.. sounds he wants to take on the ncaa, who cowardly threw desousa under the bus. He wants to work hard to recruit the right guys despite the Nike stranglehold on top recruits. ( is the ncaa investigating Zion’s dad ?? His conversations with any Nike people?. Nope … do not touch the cash cow that is duke and the golden boy Zion) Self is more committed than ever to win with this program. He loves coaching these young guys, which is why he gave the apparently troubled Vick a second chance.
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I always fall back to “I couldn’t give a shit right now for north carolina” and memories of brown leaving in 88 has me feeling a new regime is a brewin.
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wonder what happened or is happening with the Appeal of Silvio - -Man all talk of that sure the hell faded of - -been REAL quiet
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