Poor Silvio
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@jayballer73 FREE SILVIO…
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Miami’s Dewan Hernandez is suspended this whole year and 40% of next year for accepting benefits from a agent. ( I am not familiar with his case)
However, this might be a step in the right direction into actually getting some answer on Silvio.
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Seth Davis seems to be retracting his earlier stance on believing Silvio will be playing soon.
https://twitter.com/SethDavisHoops/status/1089965420176728064
Just seems like the NCAA is prolonging this BS for no other reason than a power play. Give the kid an answer already!
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On the bright side for the 19-20 season, Hernandez from Miami will be able to play half of next season…
So it looks like we will at least get Silvio for next season.
Maybe, just maybe, the silver lining in all of this is that next year’s team ends up what this year’s team should have been… Of course that all depends on the decisions of Dedric and Doke.
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So if what I read is correct it looks like all Hernandez did was let a agent pay for his hotel room… ( approx $500) If that is the case there is no way Silvio is getting cleared.
And if he is declared ineligible for the rest of the year and or any part of next year he is going to turn pro I would think.
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According to the facts of the case, which were agreed upon by the university, Hernandez agreed to receive monthly payments from an agent and accepted other benefits from the individual. According to the guidelines adopted by NCAA membership, the starting point for these violations is permanent ineligibility, but the NCAA staff recognized mitigating circumstances based on the specific facts of the case when making its decision.
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The difference between Silvio and Hernandez is that Hernandez allegedly entered into the agreement himself, whereas Silvio reportedly did not know about the money received on his behalf. That may be the mitigating factor, but the NCAA is trying to look like they are hard-lining this “corruption” so who knows what they will do.
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@Kcmatt7 We should have most of the team back.
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@KUSTEVE If we returned everyone except Vick and Charlie Moore, we could be a scary bunch.
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Kcmatt7 said:
@KUSTEVE If we returned everyone except Vick and Charlie Moore, we could be a scary bunch.
Charlie moore is not goning anywere
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He certainly isn’t playing if he stays
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Maybe since they ruled on Hernandez, they can spend more time on Silvio’s case…hahaha most likely not. I agree with @1JayhawkLifer Silvio’s case is a little bit different from the stand point that he had no knowledge of the money and Hernandez was supposed to get monthly payments as well. I’m just shocked they made a ruling that hurts a ACC team tho the team isn’t very good and likely wouldn’t be ruled the same if it was a Dook, UNC or Syracuse player.
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1JayhawkLifer said:
Seth Davis seems to be retracting his earlier stance on believing Silvio will be playing soon.
https://twitter.com/SethDavisHoops/status/1089965420176728064
Just seems like the NCAA is prolonging this BS for no other reason than a power play. Give the kid an answer already!
I didn’t read it as retracting. There’s always a chance the NCAA declares him ineligible or suspends him the rest of the year. Langford should be back in the next few weeks.
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Not too derail this, but can we please stop pretending that Dedric is coming back.
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@Woodrow I agree, not much for him to gain IMO. I predict Dedric, KJ, Vick(duh) and Moore are all gonna be gone.
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FarmerJayhawk said:
1JayhawkLifer said:
Seth Davis seems to be retracting his earlier stance on believing Silvio will be playing soon.
https://twitter.com/SethDavisHoops/status/1089965420176728064
Just seems like the NCAA is prolonging this BS for no other reason than a power play. Give the kid an answer already!
I didn’t read it as retracting. There’s always a chance the NCAA declares him ineligible or suspends him the rest of the year. Langford should be back in the next few weeks.
Maybe so…just the way he was writing about it on The Athletic sure made it sound like Silvio would be playing this Sat. Maybe just my wishful thinking.
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@jayballer73 - would be nice, wouldn’t it!
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@Kcmatt7 - that’s what this years team should have been. Seems like there’s always something, usually with a big man. Hoping SDS gets cleared this week. It will be interesting in the off season to see who declares for the draft, beginning as early as the day after the last game…
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@Gorilla72 This year’s team, with Silvio and Doke, likely are fighting for the #1 spot. Certainly we end up beating UK.
I’m just hoping that the basketball Gods show us mercy and finally let the stars align next season.
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JAYHAWKFAN214 said:
Kcmatt7 said:
@KUSTEVE If we returned everyone except Vick and Charlie Moore, we could be a scary bunch.
Charlie moore is not goning anywere
Wanna put $50 on it?
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Woodrow said:
Not too derail this, but can we please stop pretending that Dedric is coming back.
Lol this is 100% accurate. And it would be so dumb if he did come back.
But I’m going to imagine it for like 5 more minutes.
I mean, it’s very clear he’s leaving. We are basically only recruiting Hurt and Precious at the moment… I wonder who they’re replacing???
It wouldn’t even make sense for Dedric to come back. The dude should end up with his degree after this year and at that point, GO GET THAT PAPER.
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@Kcmatt7 Hubba…hubba… that would be incredible, and McBride and Braun will help the outside shooting.
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Hernandez entered the draft. He can return but who would in that situation. I don’t see this ending well for Silvio. It’s not this hard. Everyone just made it that way.
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Ever heard of the word “foreboding”? It fits here.
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Similar cases with eligibility, Hernandez, Bowen both suspended for the yr plus some into next. They both went professional after. It’s only a matter of time before Silvio is the 3rd.
The NCAA is doing what they always do.
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Wasn’t Bowen’s decided rather quickly? Or not. Wasn’t Hernandez getting monthly payments, no adults involved? I really don’t know. Seems so much worse than Silvio, to me of course.
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@BeddieKU23 at this point if KU doesnt recieve any infractions. I would would be fine with that because we would know for sure about not only this season but next.
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Crimsonorblue22 said:
Wasn’t Bowen’s decided rather quickly? Or not. Wasn’t Hernandez getting monthly payments, no adults involved? I really don’t know. Seems so much worse than Silvio, to me of course.
Yeah his was in part because he was the ring leader of this all from the Louisville scandal. Just connecting the dots of how the cases have been ruled no matter the infraction its had the same result
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kjayhawks said:
@BeddieKU23 at this point if KU doesnt recieve any infractions. I would would be fine with that because we would know for sure about not only this season but next.
Always grey area with this team now. It’s not good
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@BeddieKU23 just want a sliver of hope
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FWIW (not much at this point) I’ve heard a ruling will come before tip tomorrow. Which almost certainly means we won’t have a ruling before tip tomorrow.
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Looks like Seth Davis is backing that up. Not in a possitive way though.
https://twitter.com/SethDavisHoops/status/1091467623328559104
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If this is true -should we REALLY be surprised when deal with this warm pile of crap that is called the NCAA? - -I’m not. - -I mean we are not an ACC school ESPN darlings - -the NCAA & ESPN almost go hand in hand they both suck ACC butt all year - UNC and their fake classes. - - Silvio got royally screwed in this - -now his handler o the other hand - - ya he might smell - -well if this is true then we got what we wanted - - a decision. - -ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY
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Clearly there is more to the story than what we know if he’s ruled ineligible. Of course, it should come out in the findings report so we will actually know the truth for once.
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Well just came out - -Silvio must sit rest of this season AND ALL of next season - - SILVIO GONE
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SITTING OUT REST OF THIS YR - -BECAUSE guardian receiving 2,500 dollars and then additional money later - - - so Silvio is gone
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NCAA is pathetic between this and the missouri situation.
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BShark said:
NCAA is pathetic between this and the missouri situation.
Coach Self spoke and said he in all his years has never seen such an unjust ruling and mean spirited group on this kid
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like these sports announcers said = = =this kid got SCREWED because of his handler receiving the money from this sorry shit - - and also money from booster - said something about Maryland booster - -feel really bad for Silvio
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Was there more to it than the tuition money? If not, what a crock.
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of course Jeff Long of course saying the Unniversity said they were shocked by this and will be appealing the decision for a kid that did nothing wrong - - Jeff Goodman said he truly feels and would be shocked if Silvio had any knowledge of this
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Lawyers…can Silvio’s lawyer file a counter suit against the NCAA for dereliction of duty?
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they are comparing Josh Shelby having to sit out NINE GAMES to this with Silvio - -talking about how unfair - - crazy
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Interesting that they choose to suspend him for not only this year but all of next. It doesn’t really line up with what they have done in the past, Selby took $1500 from his prom which included a limo, tux and hotel rooms, was suspended 9 games. Silvio himself basically got nothing and has already sat out more than twice as many games. All while Zion more than likely is getting paid right now. The positive thing is that at least we know going forward, pending the appeal and it doesn’t sound like they want us to vacate anything. I know Self and Long have commented negatively about it but if we don’t have to vacate anything. I’d just be done with it. The appeal likely wont be done anytime soon so the season likely wouldn’t matter if he gets cleared.
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Mother effer. Interesting that the Miami kid’s suspension was more lenient than Silvio’s. Sucks. Sorry Silvio. I imagine there’s even more behind the scenes we don’t know about. Two seasons. that’s pretty harsh. I’m guessing Silvio is guilty of something that wasn’t released in the statement.
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But the good thing is that we now know what we have to work with, and Self can adjust the lineup and offense accordingly. Dunno what he’ll do, but at least we can pretend we have a direction and can stick with it.
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Kids life being ruined by decisions made by adults. Always a damn shame.
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I guess the last two days should be a wake up call though. Harsh penalties for Midwest schools.
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No Silvio got screwed but it’s because Kansas basketball must live on. Cant disrupt the money here. Sad sad ruling. All of next year. Go pound sand NCAA. No rules stating thats the penalty, no transparency, no understanding of what they do. They are making examples of kids because that’s what they ultimately still control. Pathetic
It’s nice to know one way or the other 21 games too late.
