Other Games Tonight
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@Fightsongwriter I wasn’t watching the program when Vaughn was a Jayhawk so I can’t weigh in there, but Frank’s loss was without a doubt my biggest heartbreak since becoming a fan. I watched highlights of the 83-80 win over Arizona led by Vaughn in '96.
. The kid was fun to watch! Very shifty and smart with the ball. I can see why people loved his game.
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I didn’t watch a single game last night but I saw that Purdue and Texas Tech are in the EE. What kind of wacky world is this??!
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BShark said:
I didn’t watch a single game last night but I saw that Purdue and Texas Tech are in the EE. What kind of wacky world is this??!
Purdue super lucky. Were down 2 with 2 seconds left. Tenn fouled Carsen Edwards and he made FT’s and sent it to OT.
Tech sent Michigan’s offense back to the stone age. 16 points at half
Oh and the Virginia Oregon game was first to 50.
Gonzaga was the best team that played last night. They were hungry
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@approxinfinity Gosh those 96 and 97 teams had a ton of talent. I’ve always said that Self has had the talent for at least 2 more titles but Roy also should’ve had at least 2. But in the same sense, UK, Dook and UNC could probably say the same they just have more already and a chance to add to it this year.
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Roy def should have had a couple titles at KU.
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1997 and 2002 were the real “lost” titles in my opinion for Roy. The two best teams in he had, I think.
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@HighEliteMajor No question, really we should’ve been back to back in 2002 and 2003.
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We’ve had more than our fair share of would’ve, could’ve’s. My would’ve was in 1986. We beat eventual champ Louisville twice that season, but got cheated by the Duke whistle in the final four. It’s really down to that team and the 97 team as KU’s best teams that didn’t win it all.
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With ESPN hype machine you wouldn’t think anyone played last night or anyone but Dook is playing tonight.
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Go Hokies!
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Crimsonorblue22 said:
@approxinfinity fun watching tech beat a good team, and oh yeah we DID play well and beat tech too!
I actually think Tech has a shot against Gonzaga. - -Tech’s Defense is just crazy. - and when they start knocking down shots - -then they can be really hard to beat. - - ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY
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@BeddieKU23 Yep Go Hokies, I realize they just beat Dook a month ago with out Zion. But I’m going to bet Dook spanks the daylights outta them especially after losing to them and almost losing to UCF. They will be focused and on their game, will be a cruise.
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HighEliteMajor said:
1997 and 2002 were the real “lost” titles in my opinion for Roy. The two best teams in he had, I think.
Do you mean the team that lost to Maryland or Syracuse? I thought Maryland was the best team the majority of that season and earned that title. KU definitely gave away the 2003 game with their FT shooting that night.
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@Texas-Hawk-10 Gooden’s fresh legs would’ve won that title. Oh well, miss 18? free throws and you should lose. That one stings still, but quiet as much as the one regular season, triple overtime loss, team of ‘97.
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@approxinfinity 35-4. Started 4 NBA players. Best team in CBB by far, until that damn AZ team. Jerrod Haase was hurt and couldn’t shoot which killed us. He had been rock solid all year. Still hard to take 20+ years later.
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Texas Hawk 10 said:
HighEliteMajor said:
1997 and 2002 were the real “lost” titles in my opinion for Roy. The two best teams in he had, I think.
Do you mean the team that lost to Maryland or Syracuse? I thought Maryland was the best team the majority of that season and earned that title. KU definitely gave away the 2003 game with their FT shooting that night.
Jeff Graves nightmares. Thanks!
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@Texas-Hawk-10 I was referring to 2002, the Maryland loss. Maryland wasn’t the top team most of that season, Duke was (by polling it appears). Duke got upset by Indiana in the sweet 16 on the other side of the bracket. Link below that tracks the polling for that season. It seems that Duke, KU, and MD were the best teams. We lost to a stud team.
Personally, I think that 2002 team with Gooden and Collison both might have been our best over all team under Roy (maybe better than the 1997 team overall).
https://www.sports-reference.com/cbb/seasons/2002-polls.html
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I blame missed FT’s and Gooden leaving for the 2003 lost opportunity. I’ve even thought in my mind, Simeon’s usage changes if Gooden is still around and maybe he’s healthy too for the final. That team could have gone undefeated in my opinion.
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@wissox I could have gone another 16 years without thinking about that 2003 NC game.
Free Throws - Syr 10-17 - KU 12-30
Three point loss
I’ve harped about free throws forever, and if we would have hit our regular percentage we would have won, BUT - I just looked at the box score again and I’d forgotten that Syracuse hit 11-18 3-pointers and we were 4-20.
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HighEliteMajor said:
@Texas-Hawk-10 I was referring to 2002, the Maryland loss. Maryland wasn’t the top team most of that season, Duke was (by polling it appears). Duke got upset by Indiana in the sweet 16 on the other side of the bracket. Link below that tracks the polling for that season. It seems that Duke, KU, and MD were the best teams. We lost to a stud team.
Personally, I think that 2002 team with Gooden and Collison both might have been our best over all team under Roy (maybe better than the 1997 team overall).
https://www.sports-reference.com/cbb/seasons/2002-polls.html
It’s a very close debate imo. Both teams were insanely good and I wish we had Kenpom data for them.
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I don’t feel quite as bad about getting beat by Auburn. That team is hot!
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Auburn just beat the hell out of UNC… makes me feel slightly better about losing.
They made 16 3-pointers tonight. When they shoot like that they are just about impossible to beat.
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@wissox what was our score?
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@Crimsonorblue22 89-75
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17 3-pointers.
SEC chant is pretty gross, though.
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@KirkIsMyHinrich SEC chant is pretty gross. Living in the midst of it for a while, I got pretty tired of SEC this and that. One time LSU rival Alabama was in town and a local sports writer actually wrote that it’d be good for LSU to lose to Bama because if Bama lost it would screw up their chance and the leagues chance for another NC. It’d be like us cheering for KSU to win a game against us because it’d be good for the league!
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Auburn is for real - -they will spread you out. - -They will just keep firing the 3 - they miss they don’t care they are quick and they will kill you - -spread and run crazy - Really good - super quick
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Let’s go Hokies! They’re been the better team in all phases through 20
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Wellp. Apparently Ahmed Hill fouled Zion’s fist will his face.
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Nothing there?
incidental contact
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I’m going to boycott Duke wins from now on. I will only watch Duke on replay when I know they lost.
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@approxinfinity Watching the games last night what struck me the most is how much better all these teams are than we were. Their level of athleticism and hustle is just far, far superior to this year’s flawed team. I think had we somehow made the S16, we would have experienced an epic humiliation. We don’t have anywhere near the athletes. Sad but true.
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@approxinfinity Oh and I agree with you. Duke just makes you want to puke.
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@wissox Agree with you. I don’t feel so bad about getting our butts kicked. NC was playing well and Auburn just kicked their tails in the 2nd half.
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Duke is living on borrowed time. - - eck -a ONE win against UCF - - and by a miracle 2 against Virginia Tech , where the guy just flat out blew the shot at the end. - Wasn’t Duke stopping him from making the shot - just flat out blew it. Life is good
And for the record - - - On March 30th in Topeka Kansas , woke up this morning let my little Dog out AND - - we have SNOW in Topeka lmao. - - huge flakes - – -ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY
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So…Auburn is pretty good? Weird.
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@BShark Auburn worried me from the get go, I said they could’ve been a 3 seed after smoking thru the SEC tournament. People laughed at me. I think they have a great shot to beat UK. I think folks forget this Auburn team was ranked 13th in the last AP poll and hoovering around 10th in Kenpom. They are hot at the right time.
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BShark said:
So…Auburn is pretty good? Weird.
I think I’ll go with a pretty good team instead of saying we got beat by a piece of trash team - - if they are trash -they just beat yet AGAIN another pretty good team - -I think I’ll run with a pretty good team roflmao. – -but I know your not saying they’re not pretty good thought but there is people that do. - - - if those people say their not - - - they might wanna check with the tams that just got their ass kicked by them see what they think right? - - - -ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY
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Texas Tech is stone cold.
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These refs are awful. Missed basket interference. Kid a good foot out of bounds on a save. Kick ball not called leading to fast break 3.
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I’m happy for Tech. Chris Beard is a great coach and has very quickly built something special in Lubbock.
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Happy for Tech too. Thank you for saving face for the B12 this season.
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Tech took a full strength Duke team to the limit earlier this season. And yes, I’m assuming Tech plays Duke since Coach K is 11-1 against Izzo all time.
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Tech seems like they’ve gotten a lot better since they lost to Duke earlier in the season. Still, I’d probably take Duke in that game because Tech will have to beat Duke and the stripes most likely.
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Well I’m gonna say it - - I couldn’t be any happier for a team other then KU. – Really happy Tech going to the final four – 1st time in School History - -Represent the Big 12 guys. - - Great Job. - ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY
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@KirkIsMyHinrich Depends on Can Reddish. If he’s less than 100%, Tech would have a great chance to beat Duke.
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UVA and Purdue has been a great game tonight as well. Carsen Edward’s is a stud.
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@Texas-Hawk-10 Not really. Cam Reddish was 1-7 with 8 points the first time Duke beat Tech.
