Other Games Tonight
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HighEliteMajor said:
1997 and 2002 were the real “lost” titles in my opinion for Roy. The two best teams in he had, I think.
Do you mean the team that lost to Maryland or Syracuse? I thought Maryland was the best team the majority of that season and earned that title. KU definitely gave away the 2003 game with their FT shooting that night.
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@Texas-Hawk-10 Gooden’s fresh legs would’ve won that title. Oh well, miss 18? free throws and you should lose. That one stings still, but quiet as much as the one regular season, triple overtime loss, team of ‘97.
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@approxinfinity 35-4. Started 4 NBA players. Best team in CBB by far, until that damn AZ team. Jerrod Haase was hurt and couldn’t shoot which killed us. He had been rock solid all year. Still hard to take 20+ years later.
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Texas Hawk 10 said:
HighEliteMajor said:
1997 and 2002 were the real “lost” titles in my opinion for Roy. The two best teams in he had, I think.
Do you mean the team that lost to Maryland or Syracuse? I thought Maryland was the best team the majority of that season and earned that title. KU definitely gave away the 2003 game with their FT shooting that night.
Jeff Graves nightmares. Thanks!
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@Texas-Hawk-10 I was referring to 2002, the Maryland loss. Maryland wasn’t the top team most of that season, Duke was (by polling it appears). Duke got upset by Indiana in the sweet 16 on the other side of the bracket. Link below that tracks the polling for that season. It seems that Duke, KU, and MD were the best teams. We lost to a stud team.
Personally, I think that 2002 team with Gooden and Collison both might have been our best over all team under Roy (maybe better than the 1997 team overall).
https://www.sports-reference.com/cbb/seasons/2002-polls.html
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I blame missed FT’s and Gooden leaving for the 2003 lost opportunity. I’ve even thought in my mind, Simeon’s usage changes if Gooden is still around and maybe he’s healthy too for the final. That team could have gone undefeated in my opinion.
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@wissox I could have gone another 16 years without thinking about that 2003 NC game.
Free Throws - Syr 10-17 - KU 12-30
Three point loss
I’ve harped about free throws forever, and if we would have hit our regular percentage we would have won, BUT - I just looked at the box score again and I’d forgotten that Syracuse hit 11-18 3-pointers and we were 4-20.
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HighEliteMajor said:
@Texas-Hawk-10 I was referring to 2002, the Maryland loss. Maryland wasn’t the top team most of that season, Duke was (by polling it appears). Duke got upset by Indiana in the sweet 16 on the other side of the bracket. Link below that tracks the polling for that season. It seems that Duke, KU, and MD were the best teams. We lost to a stud team.
Personally, I think that 2002 team with Gooden and Collison both might have been our best over all team under Roy (maybe better than the 1997 team overall).
https://www.sports-reference.com/cbb/seasons/2002-polls.html
It’s a very close debate imo. Both teams were insanely good and I wish we had Kenpom data for them.
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I don’t feel quite as bad about getting beat by Auburn. That team is hot!
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Auburn just beat the hell out of UNC… makes me feel slightly better about losing.
They made 16 3-pointers tonight. When they shoot like that they are just about impossible to beat.
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@wissox what was our score?
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@Crimsonorblue22 89-75
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17 3-pointers.
SEC chant is pretty gross, though.
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@KirkIsMyHinrich SEC chant is pretty gross. Living in the midst of it for a while, I got pretty tired of SEC this and that. One time LSU rival Alabama was in town and a local sports writer actually wrote that it’d be good for LSU to lose to Bama because if Bama lost it would screw up their chance and the leagues chance for another NC. It’d be like us cheering for KSU to win a game against us because it’d be good for the league!
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Auburn is for real - -they will spread you out. - -They will just keep firing the 3 - they miss they don’t care they are quick and they will kill you - -spread and run crazy - Really good - super quick
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Let’s go Hokies! They’re been the better team in all phases through 20
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Wellp. Apparently Ahmed Hill fouled Zion’s fist will his face.
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Nothing there?
incidental contact
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I’m going to boycott Duke wins from now on. I will only watch Duke on replay when I know they lost.
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@approxinfinity Watching the games last night what struck me the most is how much better all these teams are than we were. Their level of athleticism and hustle is just far, far superior to this year’s flawed team. I think had we somehow made the S16, we would have experienced an epic humiliation. We don’t have anywhere near the athletes. Sad but true.
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@approxinfinity Oh and I agree with you. Duke just makes you want to puke.
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@wissox Agree with you. I don’t feel so bad about getting our butts kicked. NC was playing well and Auburn just kicked their tails in the 2nd half.
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Duke is living on borrowed time. - - eck -a ONE win against UCF - - and by a miracle 2 against Virginia Tech , where the guy just flat out blew the shot at the end. - Wasn’t Duke stopping him from making the shot - just flat out blew it. Life is good
And for the record - - - On March 30th in Topeka Kansas , woke up this morning let my little Dog out AND - - we have SNOW in Topeka lmao. - - huge flakes - – -ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY
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So…Auburn is pretty good? Weird.
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@BShark Auburn worried me from the get go, I said they could’ve been a 3 seed after smoking thru the SEC tournament. People laughed at me. I think they have a great shot to beat UK. I think folks forget this Auburn team was ranked 13th in the last AP poll and hoovering around 10th in Kenpom. They are hot at the right time.
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BShark said:
So…Auburn is pretty good? Weird.
I think I’ll go with a pretty good team instead of saying we got beat by a piece of trash team - - if they are trash -they just beat yet AGAIN another pretty good team - -I think I’ll run with a pretty good team roflmao. – -but I know your not saying they’re not pretty good thought but there is people that do. - - - if those people say their not - - - they might wanna check with the tams that just got their ass kicked by them see what they think right? - - - -ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY
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Texas Tech is stone cold.
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These refs are awful. Missed basket interference. Kid a good foot out of bounds on a save. Kick ball not called leading to fast break 3.
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I’m happy for Tech. Chris Beard is a great coach and has very quickly built something special in Lubbock.
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Happy for Tech too. Thank you for saving face for the B12 this season.
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Tech took a full strength Duke team to the limit earlier this season. And yes, I’m assuming Tech plays Duke since Coach K is 11-1 against Izzo all time.
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Tech seems like they’ve gotten a lot better since they lost to Duke earlier in the season. Still, I’d probably take Duke in that game because Tech will have to beat Duke and the stripes most likely.
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Well I’m gonna say it - - I couldn’t be any happier for a team other then KU. – Really happy Tech going to the final four – 1st time in School History - -Represent the Big 12 guys. - - Great Job. - ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY
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@KirkIsMyHinrich Depends on Can Reddish. If he’s less than 100%, Tech would have a great chance to beat Duke.
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UVA and Purdue has been a great game tonight as well. Carsen Edward’s is a stud.
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@Texas-Hawk-10 Not really. Cam Reddish was 1-7 with 8 points the first time Duke beat Tech.
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Virginia really lucky to win that game. And Purdue choked.
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@KirkIsMyHinrich Everyone for Duke had a bad offensive game that night. The 69 points they scored was one of only 2 times they haven’t scored 70 points all year. Tech’s offense is why they lost that game.
If Duke beats MSU tomorrow and Reddish is less than 100% for a second game against Tech, Tech can focus much more on Zion.
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@Texas-Hawk-10 Cam Reddish has been having a bad offensive game the entire season. He’s shooting 35.8% from the field on the season… Even if he’s 100%, Michigan St should not be taking any focus off of Zion (or Barrett) for Reddish. Michigan St should be wanting Reddish to shoot the ball as much as possible. I don’t think Reddish being 80% or 100% really impacts the game very much. I don’t know why anyone would.
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@KirkIsMyHinrich Cam Reddish is a lottery pick that makes big plays in big moments. That’s why you worry about him.
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That virginia-purdue game was phenomenal. Too bad for purdue they lost their heads at the end of regulation. That was kind of inexcusable.
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Auburn has a chance to knock out 3 blue bloods in a row which would be kind of cool for them and if an SEC team is going to the FF I’d rather it be them than kentucky.
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@Texas-Hawk-10 Sorry but the status of somebody who has sucked all year and who was a non-factor in Duke’s last 11-point win over Tech is not critical.
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@wissox I am really torn on your last comment.
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@Fightsongwriter Some one from the SEC is going to the FF. Might as well be unhated Auburn, or were you torn over the it’s kind of cool statement?
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It makes Kansas look better if the team that beat them does well in the tournament. And Kentucky is Kentucky so… go Auburn.
Cheering for Tech to win the whole thing, though.
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KirkIsMyHinrich said:
Virginia really lucky to win that game. And Purdue choked.
Dam - -I just fricken can’t stand Virginia - -takes everything I have to even TRY to watch one of their games - - and your right Purdue just blew that game – refs flat out blew the call late in the game - -the announcers talked about it late in the game - -Purdue kid got bullied at the top of the key - -mean mugged and they call nothing - -
Guess I should of know - - -it’s a ACC team - -can’t have them losing
Them and Duke BOTH living on borrowed time
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@KirkIsMyHinrich Sorry, but players who suck all year are not still currently projected as top 10 picks in the draft this year, unless Grimes is also still projected as a top 10 pick. Reddish must not suck as much as you think he does to still be a top 10 pick.
