2018 Secret Scrimmages



  • Interesting read. Villanova has two against championship caliber teams. Michigan State will scrimmage Gonzaga before playing KU.

    https://watchstadium.com/news/not-so-secret-list-of-2018-college-basketball-scrimmages-10-09-2018/



  • Lol I love that we aren’t having one. We don’t need one!



  • Does anyone recall Self ever doing it? I can’t remember. Curious as to if this has always been his thing or maybe just couldn’t make one work…



  • @Woodrow I don’t recall us doing one before, other than last season’s Charity event.



  • Nope. We do the exhibitions with the D2 Kansas schools instead. Roy started that iirc.



  • Don’t the 2 exhibition games KU plays provide much of the budget revenue for those Div 2 schools?



  • @Gorilla72 Reading the list, maybe UHawaii doesn’t have many D1 teams around to ask over for shirts/skins.



  • Gorilla72 said:

    Don’t the 2 exhibition games KU plays provide much of the budget revenue for those Div 2 schools?

    The two Division 2 schools that we play we basically give them money and that’s it



  • @JAYHAWKFAN214 - Since the NCAA, in it’s wisdom, allows any combination of two exhibition and/or secret scrimmages, K-State screwed some Kansas school out of part of their budget?



  • @Gorilla72

    Not only that but gives the teams a chance to play at AFH which helps them with recruiting. All in all a great way to help the smaller programs in the state.





  • @Kcmatt7

    NCAA still clueless…



  • @justanotherfan

    Not necessarily. The term slippery slope comes to mind. Once it starts granting permission for a 3rd pre season game, all program will find a worthy charity and pretty soon it becomes the norm. The two schools could easily payoff one of their scheduled opponents and play the other game instead. Looks to me like a sneaky way to get a third preseason game against a quality opponent without giving up the two others.



  • @JayHawkFanToo

    Perhaps, but the fact that its an application for waiver for a one time event (at least I hope the Carolina’s don’t get hit with big hurricanes every year) means that the NCAA can prevent abuse of the rule.



  • @justanotherfan

    There is an easy solution. Both teams can pay off one of their scheduled pre-season opponents and play each other instead. If the end goal is to raise money, the opponents will not have any objections since they would be paid not to play. Now it looks like they are trying to get a third game.



  • Such a slippery slope. We start having hundreds of charity events a year and who knows what could happen!!! We might fund some organization that cures a disease or maybe something even worse!

    This is a win-win for everyone involved.

    Edit: Well really this is a lose-lose because they don’t get to play the game.



  • Interesting that we don’t play one, I don’t know that I’d want to play a real competitive game tho just because you don’t want to hurt guys. I know that can happen in the exhibition games too but usually that’s so one sided our guys don’t have to go super hard.



  • @Kcmatt7

    It is indeed a slippery slope. If fund raiser games are given an exception, what prevents big programs to schedule 3, 4, 5, 6 or more fund raising games? The number of exhibition games is already set and school are free to use them to fund raise if they do desire. The number of pre-season/exhibition games is set so teams will not start playing too early and place an undue burden on players which, believe it or not, are also students. This is the reason why overseas tours and pre season tournaments are allowed only every so many years.



  • @JayHawkFanToo It’s not a slippery slope. Coaches wouldn’t want to risk players. People would stop coming if they were too frequent. There could be guidelines sent out for teams to follow or their waivers will get denied (like the game must be within a bus distance of roughly 3 hours). The NCAA would still be in complete control of the situation if they wanted to be.



  • @JayHawkFanToo May I add in that the NCAA basically already backed what I said. They can be grouchy and tell kids to get off their lawn anytime they feel like it. They just let KU play 3 exhibition games last year for Hurricane relief as you already know. And were still able to tell the Carolina’s they don’t deserve to have any hurricane relief.



  • It’s a slippery slope that leads to playing Missouri… oh wait that’s already happened.



  • @Kcmatt7

    There are already guidelines in place and waivers are not needed. Teams are allowed two exhibition games that they can schedule any way they want and there is no reason why they cannot use one of them as a fundraiser. Also, teams can always leave one regular season game unscheduled and they can use it as a fundraiser as needed or just give the kids a breather and not use it.



  • @JayHawkFanToo I can’t even take you serious lol. Your stance on this is so hilarious!!! Like I feel like I’m getting punk’d. Its hysterical at this point!!

    UNC SHOULD HAVE PLANNED TO GET HIT BY A HURRICANE A YEAR AGO!



  • Off topic, We are going to beat Villanova’s asses when they come to AFH!!!



  • Kcmatt7 said:

    @JayHawkFanToo I can’t even take you serious lol. Your stance on this is so hilarious!!! Like I feel like I’m getting punk’d. Its hysterical at this point!!

    UNC SHOULD HAVE PLANNED TO GET HIT BY A HURRICANE A YEAR AGO!

    You have taken my words completely out of context to fit your narrative. Not cool.

    If UNC and South Carolina really want to play a game to raise money all they have to do is buy out one of their exhibition opponents, the going rate is about $10K, so they can easily do it and even pay a premium buyout and still raise a lot of money. Easy solution unless what they really want is an extra game that will not count against quality competition.

    …and no, you are not being punked, I presented a viable alternative that you refuse to even consider, so any further discussion is moot.



  • @JayHawkFanToo Your solution makes no sense lol.

    By dropping an exhibition game they would have to also refund season ticket holders for that game, or piss them off very much. They would have to pay the other school they planned to play still. And then when it is all said and done it cost both schools $500k each to host a Charity game that raised $1.5M. It is not a logical solution.

    Especially when they could just a play a 3rd game and raise $1.5M with no added expenses to either team. And this doesn’t even consider the fact that your solution still has them breaking the NCAA guidelines of playing another D1. So you’re ok making an exception of one rule, but not this rule? Why?


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