FIBU U18 Self/Manning/Grimes
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@BeddieKU23 Either is a really nice fit with McCormack. Both look like multiple year guys too. Would be great to get both.
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It would be great to get both. How likely that happens is anyone’s guess. A big advantage to Self here getting to coach them in the middle of their recruitments.
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@BeddieKU23 I would agree it’s not going to be an easy sell. You have to convince one to be a back-up. For the first time in their life probably.
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If I had to pick 1, it’d be JRE. He’s got a great feel for reading boards. Hurts a great 3 pt shooter, maybe we just haven’t seen that side of JRE, yet.
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When’s the game today?
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Crimsonorblue22 said:
When’s the game today?
No game today. Kids get the day off. Next team USA game is 4pm CST tomorrow.
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As always thx!
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Both JRE and Hurt are natural college PFs but I have seen a few publications that list Hurt as a SF. I will guess that Hurt can play SF or stretch PF in college. Big Dave and Hurt would be a nice front line with Big Dave staying inside and Hurt stepping out to hit the 3.
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I don’t want Hurt playing much, if any 3 in college because I don’t think he can guard smaller wings. Ideally we’d have Hurt at the 4 and Silvio or Dave at the 5, with JRE being the first big off the bench.
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USA v Ecuador at 5PM Central Thursday.
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So which is it - - do we play at 4 - -or do we play at 5 today?
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I heard 4?
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@FarmerJayhawk I read where Self called Hurt an athletic guard.
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@jayballer73 it’s not on, must be 5
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@jayballer73 is your channel in Spanish?
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@Crimsonorblue22 English channel here
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@BShark got it, kinda slow!
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ground breaking analysis: Ecuador is not good
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@BShark thought u were going to say that about me being slow!
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Crimsonorblue22 said:
@jayballer73 is your channel in Spanish?
It was at first. Then I back out and connected again it was English. - I was thinking what the hell lol
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Thank GOD. - -tomorrow things will be much better competition. I think we play Argentina. - These games have just been sad.
We have won by 32 ( our closest game ) - - -44 - - -77 - - -& 92 - that’s just nuts.
Let me say again after watching the game. - -We MUST we just HAVE to land Earle. - We can not let N Carolina slither in here and take him from us. - Tonight looked even better to me anyways -I realize the competition was sad but still - - very fluid - - -very mobile nice medium range jumper - -please oh please - -this is my Christmas wish.
My 2nd Christmas wish : -let me say this slowly - - - M – A - - T - -T - H - -E - W - - - - H - -U – R --T - - please Santee - -no Coal - -just these two that’s all I ask for. - -this kid has shown consistently he will knock down that 3 - - rebounds - does anyone still have doubt? - - don’t count me in - I’m ready.
We will see these next two games how these guys do - I think they will be fine. - - -ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY
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Leave it to someone from the UK board. You really need to sit down for this one although he did say , that possibly some paranoid conspiracy-minded type might suspect Coach Self is running up these crazy ass victory margin to make Cal’s failure last summer look even worse. - - -OMFG seriously? roflmao.
Ya that’s exactly what coach Self is doing, that’s his only train of thought for these games. - -Let me see if I can make Coach Cal look even worse for last summer lmao.
What Else can Coach do? - -he is subbing in and out like hockey lines [ - -five at a time - -like playing 5 minute segments. - -he is playing all kinds of different combinations. Like the announcers say you can’t expect the USA kids to quit playing - -quit trying. – - the real question isn’t that he is trying to run up the score - it’s what else can he do? Also like the announcers say - it’s not we have to have one kid put up 35-40 points. Against Puerto Rico our leading scorer had 20 ( Quentin ) - -Tonight our leading scorer had 20 - it’s just balanced scoring - no show boating - no glares - just team Basketball.
Thank GOD better Competition these next two nights. - - - ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY
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Last year, Calipari coached the U19 team that included several college players and lost a critical game to Canada in the semi-finals but won the rest by a lot. Coach Self is coaching the U18 team that does not include any college players.
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Crimsonorblue22 said:
@FarmerJayhawk I read where Self called Hurt an athletic guard.
I think he misspoke. The plan is to play him at the 4 if we get him.
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Other than the US, most of the countries in the Americas do not have well developed high school programs, which means their U18 and lower teams are often under-developed. Here in the US, because we have a robust HS program, it is very easy to identify the best HS players in the country (and we have lots of them).
USA has never lost a game in the U16 competition (closest game last year was a 41 point win). The team shot almost 57% from the field for the tournament. RJ Hampton, Jalen Green and Vernon Carey are some names you would recognize from that roster.
The USA U17 team is 30-0 at the World Championships. They will be playing in a couple of weeks in Argentina. Vernon Carey, RJ Hampton, and Jalen Green will likely be on that team this year, although training camp starts today with a roster of 30 that has to get cut down to 12, so that’s not guaranteed. Still, the US has never lost at the U17 level.
The U18 team is 53-2 at the Americas Cup, losing in the semifinal in 2002, and the title game in 2008.
The U19 team is 91-14 all time.
You see the difference. Undefeated at the U16 and U17 levels. Only a couple of losses (and never prior to the semifinal) at the U18 level. A crazy winning percentage (.866) at the U19 level, but compared to undefeated or .963, that’s a substantial drop. Basically goes from no chance to a snowball’s chance in hell, to maybe you have a shot. Most countries don’t have enough talent at the lower levels, so they play their best younger players up. A guy like Svi, who played on the U16 Ukranian team in 2013, then played for the senior national team in the 2014 basketball World Cup, then the U20 team in 2016. That’s the equivalent of a guy like Lebron James making the national team as a high school junior in 2002. That would probably never happen here in the US. Just too much talent ahead of him to even consider a player like that.
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Canada has pretty decent HS basketball and well over 100 players were playing Division I basketball in the US as of a couple of years ago (close to 200 next season) including some high profile top 10 players at elite programs.
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@JayHawkFanToo - - Still funny as hell to listen to Kentucky fans whine like little bitches. -
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Anybody watching?
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Refs suck
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Crimsonorblue22 said:
Refs suck
ABSURD
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Argentina is pretty good, plays good defense and is pretty fast.
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Omgosh
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Anthony was taken down. They walk all the time! Clearly want Argentina in the game
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Crimsonorblue22 said:
Anthony was taken down. They walk all the time! Clearly want Argentina in the game
Strong agree. Many fouls by Argentina not called. White took a hard fall not long ago and crickets…
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Drama queen coach
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Charge
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Crimsonorblue22 said:
Drama queen coach
lol yep
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Crimsonorblue22 said:
Charge
Close. 50/50
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LOL. That was a gosh damn and one. No call of course.
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Bunch of a
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Roy looks really really excited!
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@BShark Kentucky kid gonna play tmrw?
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Bunch of jerks
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Our kid looked good, shot getting better, he’s so strong
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Can handle pt too
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Talking to myself!
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I am here. Grimes did play PG a fair amount of time; he is super solid and will be fun to watch next season.
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Grimes’s game high 26 points leads Team USA to the finals against Canada. Yes, it’s a little early to call the Canada v. Puerto Rico game, but I’m calling it. Anyone going to watch Canada v. Puerto Rico?
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Grimes is a baller.
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@Crimsonorblue22 Watched every minute of every game
