2019 Recruiting
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Welcome back.
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Welcome Back.
I canāt see us taking McBride & Jacobs both, can you?.We could have 4 guys under the height of 6ā2 battling for one position. Doesnāt sound ideal? McBride would seem to indicate Dotson could be OAD? Concur?
I guess we could roll with two small guards again like the Frank/Devonte days. Just canāt say thatās ideal
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@BShark Welcome, my friend.
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BShark said:
@Kcmatt7 Much more likely to get Chandler Lawson than Achiuwa. Also Sam Williamson is all but a Hawk at this point. I also think Zeke Nnaji is much more likely than Cockburn, but Iām not thinking either ends up at KU if things go according to plan.
@jayballer73 @BeddieKU23 The staff really likes Issac McBride. Heās already been on a stealth unofficial visit and will be back for an official.
My early guess at next yearās rosterā¦
G: Dotson, Moore, McBride, Jacobs or a home run type signing ie Anthony or Hampton
G/W: Garrett, Agbaji, Williamson
W/F: KJ, Chandler
F/C: McCormack, Mitch, Hurt, JRE
Dam BShark great to see you back and of course you giving me my fix on the recruiting - so greatly appreciated . So I had read that Cockburn was going to visit this month, - -what happened to that did he visit or what? - I donāt think we are getting Achiuwa - I just canāt see him leaving the Coast could be wrong. You really think Chandler still comes here after Penny being hired at Memphis ? - Before I thought it was pretty much a given - now with Penny not so sure but I mean I would like to have him but if we land Hurt and Earle for sure no deal breaker. - - Honestly? - -I would much rather have his younger brother think he is the best in the group hopefully we can get him here.
Had to laugh at a poster of the LJW was talking about Williamson saying he was barely top 75 and JRE and Hurt was much more priority. - I will say true they for sure are a higher priority I would think BUT I still want Williamson he would be a sweet pick up - The only thing is if WE really want to land these guys why in THE HELL are we having them come in on the weekend of a football game lmao. Seems like that happens a lot. Arenāt you suppose to bring in a kid and show him the attractiveness of the campus and school? - Umm our football isnāt very attractive right now with an empty stadium on game day. - Yet I told this guy of the LJW I said man if your going to try and state facts at least get them right I said Williamson is a far cry from just barely top 75. - - Rivals # 35 - - - 247 sports # 41 ā & ESPN- - # 44 thatās a little higher then barely top 75. - -Great to have you back buddy and as always ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY
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BeddieKU23 said:
Welcome Back.
I canāt see us taking McBride & Jacobs both, can you?.We could have 4 guys under the height of 6ā2 battling for one position. Doesnāt sound ideal? McBride would seem to indicate Dotson could be OAD? Concur?
I guess we could roll with two small guards again like the Frank/Devonte days. Just canāt say thatās ideal
Iām just wondering if Jacobs actually ends up coming. - his continues drop in rankings he hasnāt signed anything just a verbal pledge right? Wonder if KU is still making contact? - At this point I almost feel Iād rather have McBride - - ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY
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It might not be as bad a move to bring them on a football weekend as you think. It sends a message that screams at KU basketball is king, period. When players visit schools like Bama, Georgia, Auburn, Texasā¦they quickly get the message that football rulesā¦which school would be more attractive to a basketball prospect?
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BeddieKU23 said:
Welcome Back.
I canāt see us taking McBride & Jacobs both, can you?.We could have 4 guys under the height of 6ā2 battling for one position. Doesnāt sound ideal? McBride would seem to indicate Dotson could be OAD? Concur?
I guess we could roll with two small guards again like the Frank/Devonte days. Just canāt say thatās ideal
I think the staff will try to get Anthony or Hampton and ultimately miss. So itās definitely not the ideal situation.
If McBride commits to KU before Anthony and Hampton announce, it would signal to me that KU and Jacobs are likely parting ways.
If the roster scenario I laid out does happen then imo
Starting line-up
Dotson
Garrett
KJ
Hurt
JRE
Strong bench contributors: McCormack, Moore, Williamson
Comfortable leads and teaching a lesson minutes: Mitch, Chandler
Development cycle: Agbaji, Jacobs, McBride.
The shooting in the starting line-up would be a bit rough w/o further development, so we will see.
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I have a feeling the roster for next season (19-20) will look different then we can even project right now. The last time a roster looked so bare looking forward Self went out and snatched 3 transfersā¦ I think heāll see the lack of star power as well and find a way to hit a home run somewhere.
Hurt is a canāt miss prospect for this years class. That much is clear.
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jayballer73 said:
BeddieKU23 said:
Welcome Back.
I canāt see us taking McBride & Jacobs both, can you?.We could have 4 guys under the height of 6ā2 battling for one position. Doesnāt sound ideal? McBride would seem to indicate Dotson could be OAD? Concur?
I guess we could roll with two small guards again like the Frank/Devonte days. Just canāt say thatās ideal
Iām just wondering if Jacobs actually ends up coming. - his continues drop in rankings he hasnāt signed anything just a verbal pledge right? Wonder if KU is still making contact? - At this point I almost feel Iād rather have McBride - - ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY
I have no idea what will happen with Jacobs. It looks like heās been hit and miss since committing on the court. The recruiting services seem to be dropping him every update. Some players plateau developmentally. PG isnāt a position of need if we assume Dotson returns for a 2nd season.
Between McBride & Jacobs you would have a great prospect if you could combine them into one. Jacobs athleticism and attitude with McBrideās shooting ability and PG skills. After seeing the story on McBride, certainly sounds as if he impressed the boss man. You can see some BIFM in his game
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@BeddieKU23 Fair enough. Though I think he might be selling Hurt on having a starring role which he absolutely would. KJ would have to step up into a bigger role and Dotson would be bearing a heavy load as well. Iām just not sure where the star signing would come from, outside of Hurt.
Seems like a year to mostly develop from within, especially the guards.
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JayHawkFanToo said:
It might not be as bad a move to bring them on a football weekend as you think. It sends a message that screams at KU basketball is king, period. When players visit schools like Bama, Georgia, Auburn, Texasā¦they quickly get the message that football rulesā¦which school would be more attractive to a basketball prospect?
Well ya guess thatās true , hadnāt really thought about it like that I reckon. In this particular case I am really not overly worried anyways, with His family going to KU he has been introduced to KU pretty solidly anyways I imagine and he knows all about the KU football program difficulities -but yet your 100% right. - I sure would like to see it become at least somewhat of a more balanced sports situation though you know? - I mean at least to where we as fans could look forward to a nice Saturday afternoon of College Football to compliment our basketball. plus isnāt it true as I have heard I believe that football is the revenue maker in College sports?
Anyways with this recruit I think we are in good shape. Some think he might even pop early - that would be nice. - -ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY
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Jacobs is an interesting situation. All the articles I have read of him (which there are not many) seem to indicate he is playing well. The drop in the rankings is somewhat surprising and worrisome; I wonder if his height is being factored as a bigger negative than we think, particularly when ranking services appear to be gearing up to evaluate player for immediate NBA potential since that is coming in the not too distant future and Jacosbs pro potential appears very limited.
Every picture I have seen of him he is always wearing KU gear and it would be pretty tough for him not to come, at least initially, to KU.
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JayHawkFanToo said:
Jacobs is an interesting situation. All the articles I have read of him (which there are not many) seem to indicate he is playing well. The drop in the rankings is somewhat surprising and worrisome; I wonder if his height is being factored as a bigger negative than we think, particularly when ranking services appear to be gearing up to evaluate player for immediate NBA potential since that is coming in the not too distant future and Jacosbs pro potential appears very limited.
Every picture I have seen of him he is always wearing KU gear and it would be pretty tough for him not to come, at least initially, to KU.
Iām just going to c/p a post I made on the phog recently to start.
As for Jacobs I have family and friends in Chicago and the reviews are pretty mixed. He sounds like he has the pitbull mentality/right amount of crazy you need to succeed under Self and he does some nice things, but he needs to increase his skill level. He absolutely loves KU so it would be a big feel bad if KU essentially cut him and it probably wouldnāt go over well with Mac Fire either.
Additional comments
So yeah Adam Miller is a stud PG that is also playing for Mac Irvin Fire. If KU/Self cuts Jacobs, and it isnāt a mutual decision that would likely effect KUās chances there.
KU is well positioned for a strong guard haul in 2020 (Berry, Miller, Thompson, Strawther*), but when you start eliminating some of the options essentially, it could end poorly. For this reason I think there is a chance KU sticks it out with Jacobs. Though I believe Illinois is EXTREMELY strong with Miller and very much the favorite at this time.
From a pure basketball standpoint I would take Issac McBride. Heās really good but has been under the radar for a long time. For awhile his AAU team was team Penny which had the Lawsons, James Wiseman, Zion Harmon, DJ Jeffries etcā¦
He got a bit more exposure, and his KU offer when he switched to Joe Johnson Arkansas Hawks this Spring/Summer iirc.
*Strawther might end up more of a forward. Very talented and loves KU. Not entirely sure of the connection there.
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Based on rankings, who would have thought Mason would end up consensus POY? Or Devonte barely miss it? Amazing development for both and big kudos to the staff that saw that potential.
KU used to be Big U but recently has developed more guards and wings than bigs. If Jacobs develops to be 70%-80% as good as Mason or Graham I would be pleased.
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@JayHawkFanToo Iām not going off rankings with Jacobs and the kid that would possibly be replacing him is unranked. Mostly for the reasons I laid out but is a heās a hell of a player.
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Jacobs is playing well but not getting a lot better. I certainly have questions about his long term ceiling. With Frank I never did. Heās a freak show of an athlete and a great leader. Jacobs isnāt either of those (at least yet).
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Well, it happened. Jacobs and KU are parting ways.
https://247sports.com/college/kansas/Article/2019-guard-Markese-Jacobs-Kansas-part-ways-121004463/
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Now we have more room
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Bingo. McBride can make his way downā¦
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He wouldāve had Dotson and Charlie ahead of him. Good kid, but it could take years for him to make an impact with us. Letās get somebody with some height who can drill it from 3 with good handles.
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KUSTEVE said:
He wouldāve had Dotson and Charlie ahead of him. Good kid, but it could take years for him to make an impact with us. Letās get somebody with some height who can drill it from 3 with good handles.
There is a player who you are describing. His last name is McBride.
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@BeddieKU23 Up??
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UNC is the favorite, but KU sits better with Tre Mann than most believe.
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Who is this McBride kid? Is he any better than Jacobs?
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@BShark Do you have a video?
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This guy?
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@Woodrow Yes. Heās a bit of a DITR like Garrett imo. He has PG skills and shooting ability.
@KUSTEVE Yes.
Jacobs picked up offers from FSU and Nebraska pretty quick.
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Lacks the height part but def can shoot with pg skill
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If true manns handler is steering this one. He has two blue blood offers, and most believe unc is done deal
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Mann to UNC, Anthony to Duke. No reason to think anything else right now.
BeddieKU23 said:
Lacks the height part but def can shoot with pg skill
6ā1āā is not amazing but not terrible either.
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VIP article on McBride. Nothing really surprising in it.
Summary: Kansas or Tennessee, and he will decide by November.
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https://twitter.com/The_ColeAnthony/status/1033117030487130112
Trimmed list coming from Anthony.
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BShark said:
Mann to UNC, Anthony to Duke. No reason to think anything else right now.
BeddieKU23 said:
Lacks the height part but def can shoot with pg skill
6ā1āā is not amazing but not terrible either.
Anthony to Duke is contingent on A LOT of things. Honestly I think Oregon and even Nova may be more likely. Word is the Anthonyās werenāt that impressed with the whole Duval experiment at Duke and for sure donāt want to play alongside Tre Jones. Kansas should be on his list and may get an OV but Iām not too hopeful about anything serious.
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@FarmerJayhawk I did see that Slater switched his CB to cloudy. So thatās interesting.
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@BShark thereās just a lot that has to happen for anyone to land Anthony, and not sure anything is probable yet.
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Do you think the likelihood of Anthony landing at KU is as about as good as me joining the priesthood tomorrow? lol. - - - ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY
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jayballer73 said:
Do you think the likelihood of Anthony landing at KU is as about as good as me joining the priesthood tomorrow? lol. - - - ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY
Ha! Itās somewhere north of 0 but still in the same zip code.
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Samuell Williamson ā @S_Williamson35
Final 5 official visits : Aug 31-2 Kansas
Sep 7-9 Texas A&M
Sep 14-16 Louisville 
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Sep 21-23 Oklahoma 
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Oct 5-7 Texas Tech ļø
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Hopefully Samuel on makes one visit.
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Big man Oscar Tshiebwe cut his list to 4 and KU was not on it. Not sure how high of a priority he was for the staff.
Final 4 is Baylor, Kentucky, Illinois, & WVU.
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Woodrow said:
Hopefully Samuel on makes one visit.
Lock city. He may take all the visits but itās KU barring a stunner.
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FarmerJayhawk said:
Woodrow said:
Hopefully Samuel on makes one visit.
Lock city. He may take all the visits but itās KU barring a stunner.
Yep. From what I understand it was just a matter of KU/the staff making him a priority and they did.
@Woodrow from what I understand the staff liked Oscar but knew he is a lock for WVU.
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if he is not afraid of the competition for minutes, KU is really a no brainer.
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BShark said:
FarmerJayhawk said:
Woodrow said:
Hopefully Samuel on makes one visit.
Lock city. He may take all the visits but itās KU barring a stunner.
Yep. From what I understand it was just a matter of KU/the staff making him a priority and they did.
@Woodrow from what I understand the staff liked Oscar but knew he is a lock for WVU.
Yup. The staff isnāt taking commitments from bigs unless their names are Hurt or JRE until further notice.
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@FarmerJayhawk Makes a lot of sense with how deep KU is involved with both.
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Anthony Walker a 2019 F will be at late night. Unofficial so he is paying his own way.
When talking about schools recently in an article
Kansas: āKansas is big in player development and I know their program will stick with me on and off the court. Iād always be a part of their family forever if I decided to go there and that gives me a good feeling.ā
Heās a plan C or so I would have to guess. Not a bad player but not a priority. Made his top 8 with zero effort and sadly for KSU they did not despite an offer. Poor Bruce.
Looks like he is progressing things now but if KU did need to take a swing for him it probably wouldnāt be too hard. Adidas AAU team, going to Brewster this year etcā¦
@BeddieKU23 Has your buddy at Brewster mentioned anything about him?
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I will check with him. He did mention recently he was excited about Kai Jones being there. He mentioned KU has kept tabs on him and they hope he waits until spring.
Lecque & Gafney (Ohio St signee), Joel Brown, Walker. Brewster loaded up again
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BeddieKU23 said:
I will check with him. He did mention recently he was excited about Kai Jones being there. He mentioned KU has kept tabs on him and they hope he waits until spring.
Lecque & Gafney (Ohio St signee), Joel Brown, Walker. Brewster loaded up again
Kai has really exploded in the rankings.
Doesnāt look like he is in a hurry. I donāt see that he has scheduled any visits nor has he made any big cuts.
Maybe that Bahamas connection with Coleby will finally pay off.
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From a free Bossi article on Sam Williamson.
Kansas: āFirst off, itās my dream school. Second off, theyāve been recruiting me since this time last year and they really picked it up this summer and then they have a lot of opportunity for me on the wing. Quentin Grimes is probably leaving, LeGerald Vick will be gone after this year, Dedric Lawson will be leaving, so thatās three spots on the wing and then the Sam Cunliffe transfer, so really four spots on the wing so I think I can come in and play early there.
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BShark said:
From a free Bossi article on Sam Williamson.
Kansas: āFirst off, itās my dream school. Second off, theyāve been recruiting me since this time last year and they really picked it up this summer and then they have a lot of opportunity for me on the wing. Quentin Grimes is probably leaving, LeGerald Vick will be gone after this year, Dedric Lawson will be leaving, so thatās three spots on the wing and then the Sam Cunliffe transfer, so really four spots on the wing so I think I can come in and play early there.
Hmmmm, now though I donāt have a PHD - - or any STDāS - - - or other then a lot of DāS - -that I got in throughout School middle School and High School , I may not be the brightest light in the house BUT if I was to take a swing at those comments , these comments to me sure sounds pretty much like a kid that has already made his decision. - MIGHT be wrong - - -COULD be wrong , but for a kid to say that KU is his dream School and follow it up with these other comments? - -Sounds like a kid that has bought the program - I"ma thinkin recruit # 1 pretty much sowed up - -we shall see. - - ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY
