Recruiting Thread
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BShark said:
Could still transfer to TCU, he was strongly considering that last offseason.
True, TCU has 1 spot open currently. Can see him staying though as he’d be the biggest guy left on Duke’s roster after this year
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ESPN rankings update
http://www.espn.com/college-sports/basketball/recruiting/playerrankings/_/order/true
Grimes #8, Dotson #24 (lol k), McCormack #28 (also lol, but because I think this is too high).
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Grimes at #8 is solid.
Can live with the others. I think eventually Dave lives up to that #28. Devon will outplay #24.
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If Dave continues sculpting his body, I see him as a potential Big XII POY under Self. He is like Self’s wet dream lol.
He has great footwork and offensive skill. He has size that can’t be taught and is perfect for sealing guys in the Hi-Low. He is just lacking on the conditioning and athleticism a little bit. Hudy will add 10" to that vertical, and help him with his hip flexibility so he can get lower and his agility gets better. Big Dave should end up being what we always wished Landon Lucas could be.
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Big Dave was selected to the McDonald All-American which selects the top 24 players so enough people in the know see something and believe he belongs there.
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JayHawkFanToo said:
Big Dave was selected to the McDonald All-American which selects the top 24 players so enough people in the know see something and believe he belongs there.
Down year for bigs, he’s the highest rated big outside the Top 25.
There tends to be 1-2 guys outside the Top 20-25 that make it annually. Zach Collins #37 of Gonzaga was a recent one, Thomas Welsh #36 another.
Dave is a good player and he’s played against the best HS competition for a few years now. He was on a winning AAU team as well. He might not be an impact freshman based on his current skill but I think he’s deserving of his ranking in this class as well as his McDonald’s All American status. His best basketball should be ahead of him once he gets to KU and continues to develop
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Yeah, this is a terrible year for bigs. Bol Bol is near the top and there would be classes he wouldn’t be top 25 overall imo, so it’s all relative.
That said overall I am high on McCormack. He will need time though. I don’t think he plays much at all his first year, then plays a reserve role year two before starting and being pretty great years 3-4.
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I’m okay with that trajectory given his ability right now. If Doke leaves after this year he’ll play more as a freshman.
He’s a big dude with some post skill to work with. He could surprise us if he buys in from the start. Has more offensive skill then Doke did coming in but other then their size they are not alike.
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Moses Brown to UCLA. Oh the agony for Maryland fans
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BeddieKU23 said:
Moses Brown to UCLA. Oh the agony for Maryland fans
They got punched in the balls this cycle. If @jaybate-1-0 is frustrated with KU recruiting, well, good thing he isn’t a Maryland fan.
Also I wonder if Brown mushed UK/Cal for coming back in late. Doesn’t seem like he would have but it would be hilarious.
UK/Cal also lingering with Jordan Brown. They haven’t offered yet but he has kept them on his list and Cal might be getting desperate.
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To expand on that…
Keldon Johnson long believed Maryland lean, his dad outright said he wanted him at MD. Ends up at UK.
Moses Brown, MD involved a long time here as well. He was allegedly very close to committing to MD a couple times but never pulled the trigger. It did feel like he was waiting for a blue blood offer. Ends up at UCLA.
Devon Dotson was their top PG target. Ends up at KU.
They do still have a very good class, all things considering, it just isn’t completely insane like it could have been.
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BShark said:
Yeah, this is a terrible year for bigs. Bol Bol is near the top and there would be classes he wouldn’t be top 25 overall imo, so it’s all relative.
That said overall I am high on McCormack. He will need time though. I don’t think he plays much at all his first year, then plays a reserve role year two before starting and being pretty great years 3-4.
How long we thinking De Sosua stays? - -ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY
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BeddieKU23 said:
Moses Brown to UCLA. Oh the agony for Maryland fans
I know there was some talk , well for some time Moses was wanting a UK offer , Cal talked to him some late but not sure if they ever offered - -I think Uk fans in a panic on what they are going to do for a big man. - -ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY
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Well maybe Maryland can take a little solace they have a big man. - - Schnider Herard 6’ 10 transferring to Maryland from Mississippi State was ranked the # 47 recruit in the class of 2016. - -ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY
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Jayballer54 said:
Well maybe Maryland can take a little solace they have a big man. - - Schnider Herard 6’ 10 transferring to Maryland from Mississippi State was ranked the # 47 recruit in the class of 2016. - -ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY
I remember when KU was looking at him out of HS. I was unimpressed, glad we went for Doke instead.
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VERY frustrated with KU recruiting of 5-stars (that actually play) at 1 and 5 positions especially.
Endlessly glad I’m not a Maryland fan. Imagine living so close to a swamp. But I do envy them their soft shell crabs from Chesapeake Bay.
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Just looked up Shakur Juiston’s stats. I wonder if he would have come here had Preston never committed.
Putting up a pretty efficient 15 points and 10 rebounds per game.
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https://247sports.com/player/precious-achiuwa-86978
It will be a battle but it sounds like KU is right in there.
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@BShark He looks good in crimson and blue!
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@dylans Extremely athletic. Already 6’9’’ too (and still growing) that page hasn’t been updated. I think he is a top 10 talent. St. Benedict is an Adidas school so that doesn’t hurt.
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BShark said:
@dylans Extremely athletic. Already 6’9’’ too (and still growing) that page hasn’t been updated. I think he is a top 10 talent. St. Benedict is an Adidas school so that doesn’t hurt.
He’s a good one and KU has definitely kept in constant contact with him since last summer. Reminds me of Kevin Knox in terms of size and versatility. I believe his brother played for St Johns (God’s Gift) was his name if I remember correctly. I can imagine him being a big priority at wing or in our 4/1 combo or whatever offense we run in the future. Hope we keep pursuit
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He would be my absolute top wing target. I’m counting Hurt as a 4. Lewis is good but Nike + Team USA? No shot at Watford either. Moore isn’t getting out of North Carolina, smells like Roy will close but I will never count Duke out these days. Who knows this kid might even get to 7’ tall. He has just about no ceiling but needs a little more polish than a player like Lewis or Watford. Self applies good polish.
My dream class would be Jacobs, Harvey, Achiuwa, Hurt, JRE. Outside of Jacobs, that’s a ton of length. Would be a defensive nightmare. Good multi-year program guards, a multi-year 4 that has a shot at the NBA, and two super studs. I think it’s within reach too. Hurt, JRE and Harvey are top targets.
Of course, it’s early and there are lots of players KU is keeping tabs on. I also wonder if Chandler is a take because of the now family connection. Achiuwa is better. It will be interesting to see how it all shakes out.
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BShark said:
He would be my absolute top wing target. I’m counting Hurt as a 4. Lewis is good but Nike + Team USA? No shot at Watford either. Moore isn’t getting out of North Carolina, smells like Roy will close but I will never count Duke out these days. Who knows this kid might even get to 7’ tall. He has just about no ceiling but needs a little more polish than a player like Lewis or Watford. Self applies good polish.
My dream class would be Jacobs, Harvey, Achiuwa, Hurt, JRE. Outside of Jacobs, that’s a ton of length. Would be a defensive nightmare. Good multi-year program guards, a multi-year 4 that has a shot at the NBA, and two super studs. I think it’s within reach too. Hurt, JRE and Harvey are top targets.
Of course, it’s early and there are lots of players KU is keeping tabs on. I also wonder if Chandler is a take because of the now family connection. Achiuwa is better. It will be interesting to see how it all shakes out.
Nice Dream Class.
My dream class would be Vernon Carey, Cole Anthony, Achiuwa, JRE, Josh Green. We can dream right?
In actuality JRE, Achiuwa, Harvey, Jaylen Wilson & Jacobs would be a killer 5 of guys we are recruiting/already have. Malik Hall, Williamson, Leech, Lawson, Hurt, Stanley could be other options as well we pursue but we’ll see what the staff needs. It will be interesting to see which Top 10 kids we throw darts at as none of them seem like KU has a legit chance with right now (other then Hurt).
I assume after next year Grimes, Vick, Doke, D Lawson, KJ Lawson & De Sousa could all be gone. 4 of 6 at least. That means anywhere from 4 to 6 open spots as it looks. 19 will have to balance between immediate impact players with guys that can contribute early and develop over time. I see the major need(s) being in the post if a De Sousa were to leave or KJ follows Dedric after next season. Lot of time to be sorted out
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If we are dreaming that hard definitely Carey.
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BShark said:
If we are dreaming that hard definitely Carey.
It was a dreaming moment, a very unlikely one.
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I think KJ sticks around fwiw.
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I’ve got us penciled in for JRE, Jacobs, Harvey, and one of Hurt/Lawson/Achiuwa/Leech/Stanley. It’s really too early to tell who Self and co. will really target on the wing. Also we could see an end to one and done as soon as the 2019 draft, so we’ll see. Add in potential immediate transfer eligibility, and college hoops could be insane as far as roster movement over the next couple offseasons. If the class of 2019 can go pro right out of HS, it creates an interesting dilemma for next year’s freshmen. Do you leave after a year in an absolutely loaded draft? Or do you stick around for 2 years and compete with the 2020 class. My feeling is a lot of marginal OAD types (including Grimes, Dotson, and Silvio) end up staying for at least a second year. It could even ripple down to this season. If it seems pretty likely that the 19 class can go pro, it’ll push marginal underclassmen into this upcoming draft to avoid the stacked 2019 group.
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Updated 247 2019 rankings.
Targets:
Wiseman/Carey 1-2
Hurt- #4
Achiuwa #5
Stanley #14
Jalen Wilson #15 (big rise for him and he likes KU)
Okongwu #20
JRE #28 (dropped from 5-star status)
Harvey #35
Josh Green #36
Chandler Lawson #49
Hall #66
Jacobs #99 (keeps dropping)
Williamson #208
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@BeddieKU23 Hooooly
Jalen Wilson. He is a kid I think we can close on too.JRE receiving the pre-KU commitment drop.
I don’t care where Markese is ranked, I like him long term for us. He has a lot of stuff you can’t teach.Okongwu will end up at UCLA.
Still sleeping on Williamson imo.
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@BeddieKU23 - -not sure - -but I just looked and pulled up JRE profile - still on there shows him as a 5 star - -what am I missing?
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Jayballer54 said:
@BeddieKU23 - -not sure - -but I just looked and pulled up JRE profile - still on there shows him as a 5 star - -what am I missing?
247 rankings not the composite.
247SPORTS 97 NATL. RK 28 PF RK 5 KS RK 14*
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BShark said:
@BeddieKU23 Hooooly
Jalen Wilson. He is a kid I think we can close on too.JRE receiving the pre-KU commitment drop.
I don’t care where Markese is ranked, I like him long term for us. He has a lot of stuff you can’t teach.Okongwu will end up at UCLA.
Still sleeping on Williamson imo.
Absolutely. We’re going to need at least one, probably more, wings in the class. I could easily see Cunliffe gone by then. So it’s possible to add Achiwua and Wilson. Precious can play some 4 as well. Glad to see Zach make a move up. Ideally, he’d back up Grimes for a year before taking the reins. Agree on Jacobs. I could see him as a RS since he’ll be behind Dotson and Moore, and maybe Harvey.
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I’d like to see Harvey and JRE make it official before next fall. OU worries me as a dark horse with Harvey.
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BShark said:
Jayballer54 said:
@BeddieKU23 - -not sure - -but I just looked and pulled up JRE profile - still on there shows him as a 5 star - -what am I missing?
247 rankings not the composite.
247SPORTS 97 NATL. RK 28 PF RK 5 KS RK 14*
gotcha - - my bad
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@BShark Hopefully this is Lonny’s last hurrah and he hangs it up after TY leaves.
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BShark said:
@BeddieKU23 Hooooly
Jalen Wilson. He is a kid I think we can close on too.JRE receiving the pre-KU commitment drop.
I don’t care where Markese is ranked, I like him long term for us. He has a lot of stuff you can’t teach.Okongwu will end up at UCLA.
Still sleeping on Williamson imo.
Yeah that’s a big rise for Wilson who was in the 40’s I believe before. Never hurts to be in on a kid that makes a rise like that before his senior year. I haven’t dived into who else is after him but I saw that UNC is recruiting him. Oklahoma, A&M a few others as well. 247 says he unofficially visited for last weekend’s game? Was that true?
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Ugh, Emmitt Williams to LSU.
Red-Flag’s put aside this was one of my favorite players in the entire class.
The reality was he was always going to a Nike school. LSU selling some goods reeling in 3 5 star recruits… Wade ain’t that good!
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Lots of CB movement for one time interest Jermaine Couisnard to Frank Martin…
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Ugh, Slater with a pick for Duke with EJ Montgomery. Are you freaking kidding me!
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BeddieKU23 said:
Ugh, Emmitt Williams to LSU.
Red-Flag’s put aside this was one of my favorite players in the entire class.
The reality was he was always going to a Nike school. LSU selling some goods reeling in 3 5 star recruits… Wade ain’t that good!
No high profile hoops school was going to take him after what happened. And yeah, SWOOSH.
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BeddieKU23 said:
Ugh, Slater with a pick for Duke with EJ Montgomery. Are you freaking kidding me!
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Please no.
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EJ isn’t going to Duke unless one or both of Bolden and DeLaurier leave. At least that’s what my Duke contact told me.
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FarmerJayhawk said:
EJ isn’t going to Duke unless one or both of Bolden and DeLaurier leave. At least that’s what my Duke contact told me.
Interesting. Them getting involved is just scary though, they have the ability to convince anyone to play there so I’m not exactly buying it’s not gonna happen
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BShark said:
BeddieKU23 said:
Ugh, Emmitt Williams to LSU.
Red-Flag’s put aside this was one of my favorite players in the entire class.
The reality was he was always going to a Nike school. LSU selling some goods reeling in 3 5 star recruits… Wade ain’t that good!
No high profile hoops school was going to take him after what happened. And yeah, SWOOSH.
Well LSU is going to be a completely different team with those 3, Days, and Watters and a few others they have. Your talking ncaa tourney good. I know Williams was most likely steered there but he is going to be a good piece for them. Sucks he has the obvious off the court concerns
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@BeddieKU23 I agree. UK is getting involved too. I don’t have a good feel for it at all.
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Texas A&M offered Agbaji. Stock rising.
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BeddieKU23 said:
Ugh, Slater with a pick for Duke with EJ Montgomery. Are you freaking kidding me!
I hope we didn’t think EJ would be considering us - -as he gave his TOP 11 - and we didn’t even make that - ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY
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@Jayballer54 It’s just commenting on how Duke is ridiculous. KU didn’t really recruit Montgomery.
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BeddieKU23 said:
Lots of CB movement for one time interest Jermaine Couisnard to Frank Martin…
Committed tonight.
