Recruiting Thread
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BShark said:
If we are dreaming that hard definitely Carey.
It was a dreaming moment, a very unlikely one.
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I think KJ sticks around fwiw.
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I’ve got us penciled in for JRE, Jacobs, Harvey, and one of Hurt/Lawson/Achiuwa/Leech/Stanley. It’s really too early to tell who Self and co. will really target on the wing. Also we could see an end to one and done as soon as the 2019 draft, so we’ll see. Add in potential immediate transfer eligibility, and college hoops could be insane as far as roster movement over the next couple offseasons. If the class of 2019 can go pro right out of HS, it creates an interesting dilemma for next year’s freshmen. Do you leave after a year in an absolutely loaded draft? Or do you stick around for 2 years and compete with the 2020 class. My feeling is a lot of marginal OAD types (including Grimes, Dotson, and Silvio) end up staying for at least a second year. It could even ripple down to this season. If it seems pretty likely that the 19 class can go pro, it’ll push marginal underclassmen into this upcoming draft to avoid the stacked 2019 group.
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Updated 247 2019 rankings.
Targets:
Wiseman/Carey 1-2
Hurt- #4
Achiuwa #5
Stanley #14
Jalen Wilson #15 (big rise for him and he likes KU)
Okongwu #20
JRE #28 (dropped from 5-star status)
Harvey #35
Josh Green #36
Chandler Lawson #49
Hall #66
Jacobs #99 (keeps dropping)
Williamson #208
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@BeddieKU23 Hooooly
Jalen Wilson. He is a kid I think we can close on too.JRE receiving the pre-KU commitment drop.
I don’t care where Markese is ranked, I like him long term for us. He has a lot of stuff you can’t teach.Okongwu will end up at UCLA.
Still sleeping on Williamson imo.
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@BeddieKU23 - -not sure - -but I just looked and pulled up JRE profile - still on there shows him as a 5 star - -what am I missing?
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Jayballer54 said:
@BeddieKU23 - -not sure - -but I just looked and pulled up JRE profile - still on there shows him as a 5 star - -what am I missing?
247 rankings not the composite.
247SPORTS 97 NATL. RK 28 PF RK 5 KS RK 14*
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BShark said:
@BeddieKU23 Hooooly
Jalen Wilson. He is a kid I think we can close on too.JRE receiving the pre-KU commitment drop.
I don’t care where Markese is ranked, I like him long term for us. He has a lot of stuff you can’t teach.Okongwu will end up at UCLA.
Still sleeping on Williamson imo.
Absolutely. We’re going to need at least one, probably more, wings in the class. I could easily see Cunliffe gone by then. So it’s possible to add Achiwua and Wilson. Precious can play some 4 as well. Glad to see Zach make a move up. Ideally, he’d back up Grimes for a year before taking the reins. Agree on Jacobs. I could see him as a RS since he’ll be behind Dotson and Moore, and maybe Harvey.
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I’d like to see Harvey and JRE make it official before next fall. OU worries me as a dark horse with Harvey.
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BShark said:
Jayballer54 said:
@BeddieKU23 - -not sure - -but I just looked and pulled up JRE profile - still on there shows him as a 5 star - -what am I missing?
247 rankings not the composite.
247SPORTS 97 NATL. RK 28 PF RK 5 KS RK 14*
gotcha - - my bad
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@BShark Hopefully this is Lonny’s last hurrah and he hangs it up after TY leaves.
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BShark said:
@BeddieKU23 Hooooly
Jalen Wilson. He is a kid I think we can close on too.JRE receiving the pre-KU commitment drop.
I don’t care where Markese is ranked, I like him long term for us. He has a lot of stuff you can’t teach.Okongwu will end up at UCLA.
Still sleeping on Williamson imo.
Yeah that’s a big rise for Wilson who was in the 40’s I believe before. Never hurts to be in on a kid that makes a rise like that before his senior year. I haven’t dived into who else is after him but I saw that UNC is recruiting him. Oklahoma, A&M a few others as well. 247 says he unofficially visited for last weekend’s game? Was that true?
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Ugh, Emmitt Williams to LSU.
Red-Flag’s put aside this was one of my favorite players in the entire class.
The reality was he was always going to a Nike school. LSU selling some goods reeling in 3 5 star recruits… Wade ain’t that good!
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Lots of CB movement for one time interest Jermaine Couisnard to Frank Martin…
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Ugh, Slater with a pick for Duke with EJ Montgomery. Are you freaking kidding me!
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BeddieKU23 said:
Ugh, Emmitt Williams to LSU.
Red-Flag’s put aside this was one of my favorite players in the entire class.
The reality was he was always going to a Nike school. LSU selling some goods reeling in 3 5 star recruits… Wade ain’t that good!
No high profile hoops school was going to take him after what happened. And yeah, SWOOSH.
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BeddieKU23 said:
Ugh, Slater with a pick for Duke with EJ Montgomery. Are you freaking kidding me!
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Please no.
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EJ isn’t going to Duke unless one or both of Bolden and DeLaurier leave. At least that’s what my Duke contact told me.
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FarmerJayhawk said:
EJ isn’t going to Duke unless one or both of Bolden and DeLaurier leave. At least that’s what my Duke contact told me.
Interesting. Them getting involved is just scary though, they have the ability to convince anyone to play there so I’m not exactly buying it’s not gonna happen
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BShark said:
BeddieKU23 said:
Ugh, Emmitt Williams to LSU.
Red-Flag’s put aside this was one of my favorite players in the entire class.
The reality was he was always going to a Nike school. LSU selling some goods reeling in 3 5 star recruits… Wade ain’t that good!
No high profile hoops school was going to take him after what happened. And yeah, SWOOSH.
Well LSU is going to be a completely different team with those 3, Days, and Watters and a few others they have. Your talking ncaa tourney good. I know Williams was most likely steered there but he is going to be a good piece for them. Sucks he has the obvious off the court concerns
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@BeddieKU23 I agree. UK is getting involved too. I don’t have a good feel for it at all.
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Texas A&M offered Agbaji. Stock rising.
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BeddieKU23 said:
Ugh, Slater with a pick for Duke with EJ Montgomery. Are you freaking kidding me!
I hope we didn’t think EJ would be considering us - -as he gave his TOP 11 - and we didn’t even make that - ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY
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@Jayballer54 It’s just commenting on how Duke is ridiculous. KU didn’t really recruit Montgomery.
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BeddieKU23 said:
Lots of CB movement for one time interest Jermaine Couisnard to Frank Martin…
Committed tonight.
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I hope we offer soon.
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BShark said:
BShark said:
Texas A&M offered Agbaji. Stock rising.
Offered by Wisconsin!!!
They need some good news recruitingwise
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BShark said:
I hope we offer soon.
its a catch 22 with him. romeo is the prize. but if other programs start giving him committal offers that will be tough for him to sit on KU
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BShark said:
BeddieKU23 said:
Lots of CB movement for one time interest Jermaine Couisnard to Frank Martin…
Committed tonight.
good level for him
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@BeddieKU23 I think we could take both. I feel he is a RS candidate and would be doing so at Wiscy or A&M as well.
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BShark said:
@BeddieKU23 I think we could take both. I feel he is a RS candidate and would be doing so at Wiscy or A&M as well.
I wouldn’t mind getting both. It looks as if all the attention KU has started to give Ogbaji has gotten other coaches looking in as well. I wouldn’t be surprised to see his offer list continue to grow.
As for Romeo I’ve seen enough now, he’s a MUST get.
His game is so smooth like Grimes. We can’t let this one get away. We better not let him get away
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BeddieKU23 said:
His game is so smooth like Grimes. We can’t let this one get away. We better not let him get away
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@bshark Are you saying it’s on Howard?
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dylans said:
@bshark Are you saying its on Howard?
Howard is kicking ass this year and is the lead on Romeo.
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Howard has done a great job this year. You wonder how much an assistant is in play with a guy like Romeo who is going to be in school for less then a year. Langford looks improved from his earlier days. I don’t know much about the competition but its hard not envisioning him and Grimes just tearing it up next season.
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Bossi always likes to bring up local kids, “Finally, after seeing him play last week I’m really intrigued by Ochai Agbaji. His ball handling is a bit lacking at this point, but he’s strong, he can really shoot and he’s a nice athlete. Maybe he doesn’t make the instant impact some of the other guys do, but he’s a tremendous value at No. 45 on the shooting guard list and he’s got a chance to develop into a really good high major player.”
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Agbaji is a solid player, but I don’t know how he fits in at KU. He’s not an elite level wing at this point, so he would sit behind Cunliffe, Grimes, Moore, Garrett, Dotson and KJ Lawson next year, whether Langford comes or not. That’s a lot of people to be behind, particularly because Cunliffe, Moore, Garrett and Dotson would all definitely be returning the next season.
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@justanotherfan I’m good with him redshirting next season. He’s not coming out early and has some holes in his game, so it could really benefit him.
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Yeah I would assume a RS. He is much more of a “Bill Self player” than Cunliffe.
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We’re so loaded at the perimeter next season (probably) that he wouldn’t get PT anyway. So might as well trade year 1 for year 5 as far as game production.
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Oregon offered.
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Sorry, no offense, but I’m holding out for Langford since Preston departed. I think KU just might have a chance at Langford. I don’t understand why he doesn’t just choose IU or Vandy already. However, he is close to a decision. He took officials to IU, KU, and Vandy. His dad said an official to IU, attend Vandy practice, and watch KU on tv to watch how Self plays his players.
I find this interesting because you take an official to one school. You simply attend the practice of another. You then, “Watch KU on tv…” I don’t understand his hesitation. KU is televised way more often than the other schools. Billy Preston leaves, and you can play with Dotson, Grimes, DeSousa, and McCormack. IU and Vandy not ranked. I guess it comes down to playing time. Maybe he and his dad feels that he’s not good enough to EARN pt at KU. Like Young, if he goes to IU and Vandy, he plays regardless. He’s not waiting on Vick at this point if he’s making a decision soon. They mention McDs AA or April like they originally planned.
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I don’t think it will be Vandy. IU or KU imo.
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If you have seen any recent Langford highlights, he’d start at every D-1 school in America next year.
Doubtful they are worried about being good enough to earn PT. But a Burger Boy that’s potentially a Lottery pick in the 2019 draft isn’t coming to KU to sit on the bench. You need to assure them he’s coming here to start and have a role.
If it wasn’t for the Louisville debacle KU wouldn’t even have a legitimate chance of getting him.
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Langford can play anywhere he wants. But that’s the thing. He could draw any of the 351 D1 schools out of a hat, pick that school and he would be the starting 2 guard there next year. It’s more about how pieces are going to fit around him. Langford is trying to make the best decision for himself, as every kid in the country does when they pick a place to go to college, athlete or not.
The biggest question you have to ask if you are Langford is who you want to be your PG. Since he’s a SG, he wants to go play with a PG that will set him up well for shots. That would seem to give KU an advantage, but I don’t know how well Romeo knows IU commit Robert Phinisee (another Indiana HS player). If Romeo knows (and likes playing with) Phinisee, that could tilt the scale in their favor. IU also has another Indiana kid (Damezi Anderson). If Romeo gets along with those guys and likes playing alongside them, he could very easily pick IU.
For Vandy, the PG will be Saben Lee. He’s started every game this year as a freshman, so he will have experience in the system. I can’t stress enough how important it is for a wing player to have a PG that can set them up. Having a guy with experience makes a huge difference in the impact they can have.
For KU, it will likely be Dotson and Grimes in the backcourt. That gives Langford the opportunity to really spread the floor with a couple of other nice slashers, but he won’t have any experienced guys with him.
Situationally, I think there’s a good chance he picks IU, particularly if he gets along with those other Indiana kids. He and Grimes are close, though, and he may want to play with another elite guy in his one year. Vandy has the experience thing going, and he would be the feature guy in that system, but that’s an uphill battle unless he liked something he saw in practice with Saben Lee.
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I think people are overvaluing Langford. He’s much more Oubre than Wiggins as far as impact. He’ll take some time to get it all figured out, at least above the neck. He’d be a wing here, he doesn’t have the playmaking skills Self wants in a 2. And he definitely won’t throw a freshman out there to be the single ball handler on the court. Don’t forget Vandy signed Darius Garland as well, who’s going to be a very, very good college guard. Vandy will have a much better backcourt than Indiana next season. I suppose if Romeo wants unlimited shots he can go to Indiana, but Vandy or KU is the better basketball fit. Still think KU if Vick goes pro. If Vick returns, I think it’s Vandy. Playing with a really talented roster and having a clearly defined role. will be too much to pass up.
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We’ll take an Oubre type impact, we need it.
Vandy is out of scholarships currently. He wouldn’t go to Vandy if it wasn’t for Garland & Shittu.
Wonder how much Langford’s relationship with Grimes will factor in.
At the McDonald’s All-American game Garland is on the same team as Romeo. Dotson & Grimes are on the West squad with Shittu. Wonder how much guys will be in his ear…
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@justanotherfan I think Vandy’s biggest problem is having Shittu. He appears to be a really toxic recruit for w/e reason. Lots of scuttlebutt on that.
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@FarmerJayhawk I think we would make room for Romeo. Jmo.
@BeddieKU23 Seems like he really did form a connection with Grimes. Could def play out in our favour.
