Alexander, Diallo...Preston?



  • mayjay said:

    @wissox A bit of a stretch to think it reflects on Self.

    You’re probably right, but last years character issues made me think about the old beloved alma mater a little more. Trust me, I haven’t soured on coach.



  • @wissox I take it you were a kid that probably didn’t get in trouble in college. If you read any of the past players notes about Coach Self before his induction, almost every player talked of how he influenced them off the court as well as on the court. Look no further than Frank Mason. Even if they do get in some trouble I believe most turned their lives around.



  • @Crimsonorblue22 I didn’t get in trouble in college! But, that only means…

    …us high “conduct IQ” people figure out how not to get caught!



  • The parking nazis quit at some point in the evening 10 or 12. And start back up at 8 I think, thus the need to move the car in the morning. The lots are over sold so if he was out late (broke curfew so that’s a safe bet) all the spots were likely full. Not an uncommon problem. Billy’s problem was being out too late and then not getting up early enough to take care of business compounding the issue.



  • Bill Self is not screwing with a kid’s head (and future earnings) because of a simple parking problem. Preston’s situation runs deeper than parking/vehicle registration. By now, after 3 sittings, the “situation” had best be cleared up satisfactorily by Billy and family…or we’ve got another Alexander deal on our hands, with no positive resolution.



  • @REHawk Heavens no. That was just the first issue, but hopefully not the tip of an iceberg.



  • @JayHawkFanToo Apart from using a lot with a parking permit, supposedly Athletic Department policy is that all athletes register cars. So, either Preston did not register it with the Department, or he did and the Department abjectly failed to determine whether it was legit at the time. Either way, it’s a problem. And, as others have noted, it doesn’t take a week to figure who owns the car and who paid for it. Clearly more going on…



  • @DCHawker

    As far as I know/remember, to get a perking pass all you had to do is show your DL, provide the car brand, model, color and tag number and prove you were a student; proof of ownership of the car was not needed or required. I imagine with athletes it might be somewhat different.



  • Guys, there is a smoking GUN! This bit about a parking permit might reference the trigger. But the bullet ain’t just floating about in space.



  • @REHawk but, I want to be positive!



  • Each day passing makes me feel like the percentage that Billy will never play in a Kansas game grows.

    This is not a case where we are waiting on the NCAA for an action. The process is all within our compliance program. This is starting to feel like a situation not so different than what we had with Alexander relating to a “family loan.”

    We put all of this blood, sweat and tears in our program, including huge financial investments and a compliance program second to none… yet here is the case of a player driving around on campus with a “questionable” vehicle.

    The next step we really, really have to make is to put all our players on some kind of chaperone system. I know we might take a mild recruiting hit for a while, but why not SELL this system to players’ parents? It seems like many of the parents would LOVE to send their child to a school where they will be carefully watched after.



  • @drgnslayr

    I think the longer this drags points to our compliance sending the findings to the ncaa. We reported what was found and I’m sure if it was nothing he would have been eligible to play Friday. We are just waiting for the ncaa hammer at this point in my opinion



  • @BeddieKU23 I agree. This situation reminds me of Darnell and Selby: I imagine a 9 game suspension and pay back the impermissible benefits.

    Unless the car came courtesy of an agent or runner, in which case ineligibility is on the table à la Cliff Alexander.



  • Is Perry Ellis the best big man ever recruited by Coach Self? The easy answer is Joel Embiid but he had relatively no impact at Kansas.

    Landon Lucas was a solid role player but never had the athleticism although he made for it with his heart. Aldrich was soft but maybe the second best big man at KU under Self. And my third pick is between TRob and Marcus Morris.



  • @BShark Not sure if that really qualifies as good news but I give the kid a lot of points for his heart and his drive.



  • JayHawkFanToo said:

    @DCHawker

    As far as I know/remember, to get a perking pass all you had to do is show your DL, provide the car brand, model, color and tag number and prove you were a student; proof of ownership of the car was not needed or required. I imagine with athletes it might be somewhat different.

    You just have to pay the fee for the sticker, at least when I was there. Different colors depending on where you needed to park. One color for the resident hall parking lots, one for West Campus, and one for on campus parking lots. I never had to show a DL or anything else other than saying which sticker I needed and a method of payment.



  • @jhawk7782 Excluding Embiid, the best big man at KU that Self recruited was TRob, in my book. He was the most dominant. Had he stayed his 4th season, I’m sure it would have been much like his 3rd. I’d go 1) TRob, 2) Marcus Morris, 3) Arthur, 4) Aldrich, 5) Withey, all before Ellis (assuming Withey qualifies as “recruited”).



  • ParisHawk said:

    @BeddieKU23 I agree. This situation reminds me of Darnell and Selby: I imagine a 9 game suspension and pay back the impermissible benefits.

    Unless the car came courtesy of an agent or runner, in which case ineligibility is on the table à la Cliff Alexander.

    I could see it being 9 games but I believe the amount of games is dependent on how much the benefit was. In this case a car could be a significant amount of improper benefits received which could make it more then 9 games. The only good thing is that any further suspension if it goes that route should incorporate the games he has already been withheld for this situation.

    I’d love to think this was just some mixup but it’s certainly not being lead on as such.



  • @HighEliteMajor

    One of the reasons TRob was so good is because he had Withey guarding the basket. Withey is very underrated, he is not only the best shot blocker of the bunch but he altered even more shots and when he blocked shots he usually sent the ball towards another KU player resulting in KU getting possession of the ball.


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