Are we done recruiting?
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FarmerJayhawk said:
Long way to go for Langford. He’s visiting this weekend, and like we saw with Dave and Silvio, it can change everything.
Ya - -seems like the distance is getting wider by the minute. - -IT IS a good thing I think that we got the last visit - -time will tell, we really need to hit him hard this weekend - don’t leave anything, let it loose and let it fly. - - -ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY
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Looks like Indiana put themselves in the drivers seat for Langford especially from what his coach said. Interesting, Indiana is close to home for him.
Logistically I’m still trying to figure out how they will do it. They have 5 kids committed right now which fills up all their scholarships. They have signed 2 Top 100 wings and will have 7 scholarship perimeter players on the roster next season. Crowded situation. Maybe they are selling him on the SG position, they could use an upgrade at that position after losing guys.
The one thing KU has going for them is they have recruited him for a while now. Indiana’s staff might be impressing him now buts it new and they haven’t been after him as long as KU has. We’ll see if that plays any factor.
Slater saying it will be a business decision is also a telling advantage to KU.
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@BeddieKU23 Well just strictly from the CB standpoint - -looking like they have a really good chance of landing Langford AND Darius Garland both - -lot of movement for Garland recent which I find interesting too. - -Again I think it could be big that w got the last visit , although he is close in Indiana so he could always visit there AGAIN no problem.
I just feel we need to really get after him this weekend put the hammer down and try and close this. - -Maybe not getting the verbal this weekend obviously but you know what I’m saying - -close it up - -leave nothing undone. - -Will be interesting to see what kind of CB movement there is if any after the visit this weekend seeing as how this is his last visit. - If it continues to show Indiana after with no signs about us - could smell trouble we shall see. - - ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY
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Archie Miller is perhaps the best coach of the younger group and Indiana still carries a huge clout in the upper Mid West. The idea of being part of the group that brings one of the more storied programs back to its glory days can be very attractive to players. Indiana used to be true basketball royalties until it fell on hard times but looks like it is getting ready to move up again. Stevens and Miller are the two coaches I would have liked to be considered to follow Coach Self but it seems unlikely now, particularly if Miller does well at Indiana.
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Langford will be a Spring commit I think.
I do think we will find out a lot on Nov. 10 when Barrett decides. He will be the first domino in what I think will be quite a series. Barrett could basically eliminate Duke or UK from Zion contention. Making Zion decide soon after. Zion’s decision could change Langford’s if he picks KU. Which will surely change some decisions for some lower ranked guys once the blue bloods show some interest because they didn’t land the Zion sweepstakes.
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Just gimme Grimes and two scrubs or bank the schollies. 11 eligible players is enough.
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BShark said:
Just gimme Grimes and two scrubs or bank the schollies. 11 eligible players is enough. I think we are in pretty good shape there as far as Grimes. - - Even if we don’t get any one else period - -that 4 man class is a pretty damn good class. - - - -ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY
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Grimes, hopeful Vick return and see what happens with the fbi investigation, maybe some nice transfers.
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BShark said:
Just gimme Grimes and two scrubs or bank the schollies. 11 eligible players is enough.
I’m still greedy. Langford is gettable after he visits this weekend. IU just blew him away last weekend apparently. I want one more 5*, then I’ll be happy with the class and we can focus on either transfers after mid-season or developmental guys.
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Well just read. I see that the 1st CB came in after Grimes final visit that he took to Marquette this past weekend. - -The 1st CB came in and it was - - - - -drum roll please - - -the CB was for KU - -surprise.
Seriously I feel pretty good , like I said earlier with these guys , now that their visits are over -sit back and watch for movement and see which way it’s pointed. Keeping fingers crossed - -but feel we are at like maybe at a 85-15 all in for Grimes hope so - -feel so. - - -ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY
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@jayballer54 Look again
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Yeah it’s a foggy pick.
Also will reiterate based on a recent post: KU def still recruiting Matt Hurt and Hurt is very interested in KU.
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3genhawk said:
@jayballer54 Look again
Well that was really really really quick. - -I wonder if he is that fast in everything he does? -I mean I know there are certain individuals that call me speedy Gonzalez & Quicks Draw - -but I mean DAMN – not only that but DAMN.
I Posted 38 minutes ago and during the 9 minutes in between my post and your post he changes his mind? - - - WOW - -I bet this guy can really entertain a lot of ummm - - ummm - -well never mind you know where I’m headed so I don’t have to say it. - -Obviously he can get ALOT done in 9 minutes. - -It’s Ok I’m still not trippin on Grimes - -I think he lands here. - - ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY
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Well I think we will start to see some kind of movement scuttlebutt on Grimes around the middle of next week. either be CB movement in one way or another - -articles leaking out, as he is saying they want to try for sure and be able to commit in the Early signing which starts on the 8th of November - -so I think something gonna give before to much longer. - - -ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY
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It looks like it’s going to be between Kansas and Kentucky by the way it looks on his crystal ball
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KU until I hear differently. He’ll commit and sign mid-November.
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blackmild33 said:
It looks like it’s going to be between Kansas and Kentucky by the way it looks on his crystal ball
lol you mean the crystal ball that has zero picks for kentucky
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@BeddieKU23 yes
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FarmerJayhawk said:
KU until I hear differently. He’ll commit and sign mid-November.
That’d be a good b-day present for moi!
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Langford will cut his list to 3 soon. We’ll see if KU is on it. Would expect they are.
If he signs early I expect it would be Indiana. If he signs late KU has a great chance to keep in his ear as the season plays out
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2019 target Joey Baker off the board to Duke. I know we kicked the tires on him. Don’t have to worry now. Could help with the pursuit of Matthew Hurt though
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Yeah, KU was never really in it. Nor should we have been. Would 100% rather have Chandler/Hurt.
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Read what I call the typical reaction from a recruit or family after a official visit. - Romeo’s dad said that the visit went " Very Well " - -that they liked the facilities & Campus.
Also said it is looking a little more like he might tend to be leaning to signing in the early period according to Eric Bossi. - -Bossi said a few weeks ago he would of given KU a slight edge for Langford BUT since his visit to Indiana looks like they really helped themselves out a lot. - That the edge might have swung back over to Indiana. - He believes it will still come down to Ku & Indiana
At this point guys for me - - - -Give me Grimes and call it good, I’ll be completely satisified. - - We get him and then maybe some other maybe lesser know lower 3-4 year solid player what would be wrong with that class? - -NOTHING. - -unless on the very unlikely remote chance Zion would commit that would be beyond - but highly doubtful- - - ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY
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If Langford signs early it’s absolutely not KU.
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found this king of interesting. - -While trolling my OTHER favorite board to get info. - -UK board had a thread titled. - -So who is next to commit: - Like 48 responses it said so far.
Had people listing Williamson - - a lot of Johnson - those were the big two - -some said Bol Bol, - - Herro - - - - kind of odd not ONE of them mentioned Grimes - - Not ONE. - - looks like their fans anyways are not very confident he is signing there at all.
Kind of odd seeing as I keep hearing from people oh look out for Kentucky - -umm NO Quentin Grimes will not commit to Kentucky – again Quentin Grimes will not commit to Kentucky , take it to the bank - -lock the doors - -that ship is gone - -not happening. - -Another tale tale sign for me that he is not committing is Cal is going back to visit Herro – -AGAIN, that’s not going to happen if Grimes commits, cause they would be competing for the same spot - -as Quickley will be their main PG - -Grimes would be playing the 2 - -same as Herro.
I still feel really confident Quentin lands here - - I still say IF we have any worries it would be - - -Texas being from Texas - - knowing a lot of players off the squad and being really familer with the staff.
So without Kentucky it’s KU - -Texas - -Marquette. KU BABY - - sayin just like Devon - - -book it - -ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY
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I see where Kentucky and Clemson are visiting Zion today. - - -KU & Duke visiting Zion tomorrow. - -Does anyone still think we have a chance with him? - - - ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY
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jayballer54 said:
I see where Kentucky and Clemson are visiting Zion today. - - -KU & Duke visiting Zion tomorrow. - -Does anyone still think we have a chance with him? - - - ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY
No it seems unlikely. He’s a classic Kentucky recruit. Of course I would love to be wrong
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@jayballer54 Absolutely have a chance depending on if he thinks Doke and/or Billy and/or Vick will come back. Zero if he thinks they all will. Kid wants to play, and wants to star. Is there room at UK? Still a chance for SC to get him. Martin has a fantastic ability to relate to these kids and their parents. Sources here say he is very much a homebody. Clemson closer to home, but nothing else to recommend it unless he is a huge football fan or has buddies going there.
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KU still has a shot. But they won’t get both he and Langford.
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BeddieKU23 said:
jayballer54 said:
I see where Kentucky and Clemson are visiting Zion today. - - -KU & Duke visiting Zion tomorrow. - -Does anyone still think we have a chance with him? - - - ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY
No it seems unlikely. He’s a classic Kentucky recruit. Of course I would love to be wrong
Ya that’s what I’ve been saying also - - I think he has Kentucky written all over him. - -ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY
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@mayjay Well at this point Kentucky has no other big’s - -they think they have lost Bol Bol to Oregon and damn I can’t think of the others but they are really hoping for Zion - -I think with Quickley pushing that’s where he lands.
Did find it interesting that they as their fans was posting wondering why they were just sending Payne to see him today instead of Cal - some think that’s a mistake. - -A lot of them are worried about Duke. - -ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY
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FarmerJayhawk said:
KU still has a shot. But they won’t get both he and Langford.
I’m beginning to wonder if we get either. - -ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY
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At this point, I don’t think KU leads for either. But a senior Vick is probably preferable anyway.
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Give me Quentin Grimes and anything else will just be icing on the cake.
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FarmerJayhawk said:
At this point, I don’t think KU leads for either. But a senior Vick is probably preferable anyway.
SR Vick would be excellent.
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You know guys kind of sad , going around to other sites. - - KU sites , seeing if I can find anything on recruiting talk - -tidbits - -and just sad - - -these guys on some other KU sites , they post thread on recruits name so you pull it up and lo and behold their not talking about the recruit - -All it is - - in one HUGE P - - - - - - contest - -one person ragging on another gets pretty pathetic - -hardly nothing if anything about the player, just people trying to get other people banned off the site. - -Yet you having to pay to get privy information - - I’m not paying squat to join a site and then just hear people bitch and moan and whine about another person - -Glad we have this. - -ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY
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I can’t force myself to look but looks like Moses Brown and Kentucky is becoming a thing. That Maryland board must be SALTY.
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BeddieKU23 said:
I can’t force myself to look but looks like Moses Brown and Kentucky is becoming a thing. That Maryland board must be SALTY.
They were take it or leave it with Brown tbh.
I’m howling though. UK writers said Cal might not take a big in this class. None were up to his standard.
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The kid is dying for a true blue blood offer, if UK does offer, they will get him.
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BShark said:
The kid is dying for a true blue blood offer, if UK does offer, they will get him.
Brown is a project but a big kid with some talent to work with. I’d honestly like to see him go anywhere but UK
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jayballer54 said:
You know guys kind of sad , going around to other sites. - - KU sites , seeing if I can find anything on recruiting talk - -tidbits - -and just sad - - -these guys on some other KU sites , they post thread on recruits name so you pull it up and lo and behold their not talking about the recruit - -All it is - - in one HUGE P - - - - - - contest - -one person ragging on another gets pretty pathetic - -hardly nothing if anything about the player, just people trying to get other people banned off the site. - -Yet you having to pay to get privy information - - I’m not paying squat to join a site and then just hear people bitch and moan and whine about another person - -Glad we have this. - -ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY
Exactly why I am here now…
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BeddieKU23 said:
BShark said:
The kid is dying for a true blue blood offer, if UK does offer, they will get him.
Brown is a project but a big kid with some talent to work with. I’d honestly like to see him go anywhere but UK
Looks like UK might have ran out of other options. I don’t think Cal wants to take Brown. He might not offer until Bol makes it official for Oregon. With Barrett looking Duke bound he probably regrets not going after Shittu.
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BShark said:
BeddieKU23 said:
BShark said:
The kid is dying for a true blue blood offer, if UK does offer, they will get him.
Brown is a project but a big kid with some talent to work with. I’d honestly like to see him go anywhere but UK
Looks like UK might have ran out of other options. I don’t think Cal wants to take Brown. He might not offer until Bol makes it official for Oregon. With Barrett looking Duke bound he probably regrets not going after Shittu.
Yeah its looking like UK is trying to get anything they can at this point. Moses has played this recruitment out so who know whether his comments about UK will mean anything. Usually they do but we’ll see,
Shittu, I’m surprised they didn’t press further with him but I think this actually might have been a case of the player not seeing playing time available. UK has a bunch of bigs but the NBA isn’t drooling about them so some kids are not seeing the guarantee’s of them being gone after this year. I haven’t heard much on his recruitment lately but doesn’t it seem like Vandy was in the drivers seat for him?
Bol didn’t announce of Oregon yet? Stopped paying attention to that one.
Barrett, ugh such a talent going to Duke. Reddish & Barrett jeesh. Only team on trail that’s beaten KU in this cycle. Really impressed to say that Self has been money
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@BeddieKU23 He hasn’t even set an announcement date, but it’s Oregon, obviously. With the way news leaked I would assume he is a silent commit already.
Vandy or UNC for Shittu.
Nike wasn’t going to let Barrett get away. Duke’s class is going to be completely absurd.
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Calipari was holding out for Barrett. There’s some bad blood between RJ and Shittu for some reason.
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BShark said:
The kid is dying for a true blue blood offer, if UK does offer, they will get him.
Not that impressed with him - -ya he is 7ft 2 but project - Everyone thinking since they lost out on Bol Bol - -even though not confirmed yet- but seems he is going to Oregon. - -Ya He wanted a UK offer hasn’t been made yet but it’s coming. - -Not knocking the kid but still gonna take time for him. - - On another note. - - Is it just me or what? - -Probably is but am I overlooking things with Bol Bol? - -I mean even when he was still here in Kansas seeing his highlite - seemed kind of soft. - -just seemed he wanted to play outside more then in. - -Not sure if he can really bang with the Big Solid bodies inside - -he seems to kind of for a lack of better words loaf/slack - - uninspired sometimes maybe just me.
I know ya he looks good against High School kids because he gets away with a lot because of his height - -not really sure about his explosion - -sorry I am just not seeing a # 3 - -# 4 ranked player in the clas. - - - ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY
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FarmerJayhawk said:
Calipari was holding out for Barrett. There’s some bad blood between RJ and Shittu for some reason.
Stems from AAU and Canadian play that Andrew Slater elaborated on over the summer. Apparently it’s not just that RJ and Shittu don’t get along but its the father’s as well. Funny when the parents have beef with each other
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@BeddieKU23 It would just break my heart, and funny as all get out if UK ended up offering Moses & then even though he said he wanted UK offer - -if they offered and then Moses ended up going to Maryland or UCLA after all and Kentucky lose out on him also - -Lose Bol Bol - -Brown & Shittu - - -THAT would truly be a Kodak moment for me - - -Priceless - - I could hear the UK fans now. - - ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY
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Careful, we don’t need that kind of karma coming back on us. It would be funny but we know how recruiting goes.
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BeddieKU23 said:
Careful, we don’t need that kind of karma coming back on us. It would be funny but we know how recruiting goes.
Agree. It works in cycles. UK also had a “down class” in terms of missing out on top targets in 2015. On paper the class still looked fine, they just had a lot of misses. At the end of the day Cal is going to fill the roster and of course then Cal fell ass backwards into Jamal Murray in that class.
UK fans didn’t want to believe Slater when he said UK wasn’t well positioned in this class. Of course Slater also said he fully expect UK to kill it in 2019.
