Whiff City
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BeddieKU23 said:
Bol Bol down to Oregon and Kentucky.
Would be funny if he goes to Kentucky after Cal cut him this summer. Oregon could get the 2nd player Cal cut (King)… Some great leftovers. I think Bol Bol wants the attention he’d get at Kentucky
I have no doubt Bol Bol wants Kentucky. This class sucks for bigs, so I would bet Cal takes him.
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BShark said:
BeddieKU23 said:
Looks like Jules Bernard is all UCLA…
KU never had a chance here.
I agree was just posting for those that may try and bring his name up again
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BShark said:
BeddieKU23 said:
Bol Bol down to Oregon and Kentucky.
Would be funny if he goes to Kentucky after Cal cut him this summer. Oregon could get the 2nd player Cal cut (King)… Some great leftovers. I think Bol Bol wants the attention he’d get at Kentucky
I have no doubt Bol Bol wants Kentucky. This class sucks for bigs, so I would bet Cal takes him.
He has the most boom or bust potential I’ve seen a long time.
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BeddieKU23 said:
Is Vandy a legit concern for Langford? They are likely going to land Garland and all the recent smoke is they will get Shittu as well. Hmm Vandy goes from landing the occasional Top 100 player to possibly 3 5 stars, hmmm okay
Shittu, what a bizarre recruitment. Looks like he wants to be the guy? Also he’d probably be at UK but UK didn’t take him due to Barrett.
For those that don’t know Barrett and Shittu had some kind of rift, iirc it involved Barrett’s dad. Mutually exclusive recruits.
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BeddieKU23 said:
Emmitt Williams has visisted Oregon. Has LSU and Florida also coming up. Wants to see Duke. Looks like KU lost out there with getting others. With all the rumors of his handler running things I don’t think he was in control of where he went anyway (all Nike)
KU absolutely made the right decision imo. Williams is a nice player, very tough and intense motor so Self would have loved him but when you can lock up a couple top 40 guys early you do it. Esp considering the Nike risk here.
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BeddieKU23 said:
Ayo down to Illinois and Wake Forest… Manning could real in another big one
Yeah, KU didn’t even try here. Unfortunate because I think he is a good player but if KU lands Dotson and Grimes, no complaints.
Supposedly there is a rift between Dosunmu and THT but I’ve also seen that refuted…
Hope he ends up at Wake.
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JayHawkFanToo said:
I said it before and I will say it again…if an elite PG is afraid of competition from a player like Moore (no disrespect intended), do you really want that player?
Moore is a good or even a very good player but I am not sure anyone would call him elite.
Like Frank, I think Moore is more of a scoring guard that would have to grow into being a PG. Kid can fill it up but it would be nice if he was one of the first guards off the bench next year.
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@KUSTEVE I don’t know. Moore just seems marginal to me. @BeddieKU23 said, “But CM has his limitations height wise, athletically, and questions about his efficiency and production.” True. And I don’t like that truth. CM seems like a guy that is a capable back up, and a guy that we can easily (and should) recruit over. But that judgment is made off his freshman season, and seeing him from the Italy trip. I just don’t want to go to battle with him starting.
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This will be a backtrack from my previous assertions (as @Texas-Hawk-10 knows…) but if KU misses on Dotson and Grimes but lands say, Langford, I could see Garrett starting at PG. I’m really coming around on Garrett.
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@BShark So what do you think of Garrett’s ballhandling? Seems a little 2-guardish. I used to be ok with that to a degree, but after the EJ experience, I’m a pure point guard guy. No combo guards please – combo guard is code for, “can’t dribble like a point guard.” I want the bad a** ball handler.
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So Keldon Johnson is pushing back his decision 3-4 more weeks. The Maryland board is melting down. If we believe that UK is the main comp for Grimes (honestly Marquette COULD be) then we would hope Johnson changes to UK (recent momentum was all MD but it appears he is changing his mind).
HighEliteMajor said:
@BShark So what do you think of Garrett’s ballhandling? Seems a little 2-guardish. I used to be ok with that to a degree, but after the EJ experience, I’m a pure point guard guy. No combo guards please – combo guard is code for, “can’t dribble like a point guard.” I want the bad a** ball handler.
Oh 100% I want to see Dotson a Jayhawk and running the point next year.
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I think Garrett could handle himself at PG. I do worry about his quickness against smaller guards. But if his reputation for defense translates we’ll see. He’s definitely an advantage to have at the position if he is as good as advertised
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@KUSTEVE I don’t think anyone here is doubting the kid’s ability to fill it up.
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@HighEliteMajor Garrett was point guard on a state championship team. His defense has already assured him of playing time in the rotation. EJ was never a point guard, although he tried it for us for a while. If we’re down to Garrett as the point guard, I don’t think he makes us forget Frank, or remember EJ.
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KUSTEVE said:
@HighEliteMajor Garrett was point guard on a state championship team. His defense has already assured him of playing time in the rotation. EJ was never a point guard, although he tried it for us for a while. If we’re down to Garrett as the point guard, I don’t think he makes us forget Frank, or remember EJ.
From what I’ve seen so far, Garrett sees passing lanes quite well. I definitely agree we need to see how he handles ball pressure at the D1 level. That will be a big part of if he can play PG for KU or just be a utility guard that is a solid handler for his size, a really good passer and a guy that sometimes starts the offense in the half court.
The system he played in during HS is probably not known by some KU fans. He was coached hard in HS. Coached to play team ball. His HS coach is Paul Graham, who coached with Self for 2 years at OSU under Sutton (7 years). Nuff said.
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BShark said:
So Keldon Johnson is pushing back his decision 3-4 more weeks. The Maryland board is melting down. If we believe that UK is the main comp for Grimes (honestly Marquette COULD be) then we would hope Johnson changes to UK (recent momentum was all MD but it appears he is changing his mind).
HighEliteMajor said:
@BShark So what do you think of Garrett’s ballhandling? Seems a little 2-guardish. I used to be ok with that to a degree, but after the EJ experience, I’m a pure point guard guy. No combo guards please – combo guard is code for, “can’t dribble like a point guard.” I want the bad a** ball handler.
Oh 100% I want to see Dotson a Jayhawk and running the point next year.
Confirmation of a completely lunatic fanbase
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Ok had to share this particular post. They are already prepared.
“Yup…first comes the meltdown. Then “credit to staff for putting in a lot of work”… then “Ayala is really like a top 40 player, he’s just rated too low”… then we’ll pick up a transfer who has to sit out and some average euro big that everyone will overhype…we will win some games on a soft schedule but continue to underperform in March…Maybe we’ll be a 5 seed and luck into a sweet 16 or maybe we’ll just lose on the first weekend. Sigh. TURGATORY”
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@KUSTEVE EJ actually was point guard in high school, in Vegas. He was recruited as a point guard. I spent some time researching him and all of that, trying to convince @jaybate-1-0 that he should start over Tyshawn at the PG spot. Anyway, as you know, handling the ball against some guys that will be lacing them up for intramurals the next year isn’t near D-I stuff. I like your projection there … between Mason and EJ. That’s tolerable. And that’s all we might need.
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@BeddieKU23 Same poster that called Grimes a PG target and competition for Dotson just called Grimes a UK wing target and competition for KJ. I’m dying. Dead.
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@HighEliteMajor I didn’t know that about EJ. In a word, Michigan. Remember that one?
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@KUSTEVE PG on rivals, 2G on scout. I don’t remember what ESPN had him as. Either way his best year at KU was playing off the ball.
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@KUSTEVE What about it? Nut shot? Bad end of game, end of OT plays by Self? Blown big lead? Failure to foul Burke before the 3 point shot?
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That L was on Self.
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JayHawkFanToo said:
I said it before and I will say it again…if an elite PG is afraid of competition from a player like Moore (no disrespect intended), do you really want that player?
Moore is a good or even a very good player but I am not sure anyone would call him elite.
This is what I’m saying also. - -If indeed Devon is a really good talent , then why shy away from competition? - -A talented player isn’t golng to back away from a challenge - -any challenge. This is how you improve anyways to go against other good competition. - -Again if they feel he should just be handed the starting position? - -Then why do we want him? - -Nothing is a given - you earn it. - - ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LPONG BABY
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@RockkChalkk The stats you bring up to compare pretty well speak for themselves between the Schools & Coaches, there is NO COMPARISON. - - Again if it turns out they want him to be handed the starting position then I say - -Maryland - -your welcome to him. - -I want a player who is a competitor and not afraid of a challenge.
In the end if it comes down to it , and we lose on Devon for next year - - -well then so be it. - It’s not the best option we would like BUT I think we have enough that we can manage just fine. - -Moore will be here, maybe Garrett might be able to help out some. - -I think we would live. - Would love to have Devon but the world is not going to come to an end if he signs with Maryland. - -ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY
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@BeddieKU23 I for sure understand what your saying. - -I still don’t see why Grimes coming would be or has to be such a big issue with Dotson. - Again Grimes has said he would have no problem sliding over to the two. - There is no reason in hell why these two couldn’t co- exhist and be on the floor at the same time. - When Dotson on the bench , then slide Grimes to the one. - The more I hear and read , it’s sounds like to me that this family just wants a starting spot hand wrapped for him.
I think what really comes into play is where does DEVON want to go to school? - -Not Mommy – Not daddy - -but Devon , ya ya I know he wants to keep them happy - -I get that but in the end it should be Devon’s decision , he should be the one with the final say - he is starting his own life now. - -ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY
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jayballer54 said:
@RockkChalkk The stats you bring up to compare pretty well speak for themselves between the Schools & Coaches, there is NO COMPARISON. - - Again if it turns out they want him to be handed the starting position then I say - -Maryland - -your welcome to him. - -I want a player who is a competitor and not afraid of a challenge.
In the end if it comes down to it , and we lose on Devon for next year - - -well then so be it. - It’s not the best option we would like BUT I think we have enough that we can manage just fine. - -Moore will be here, maybe Garrett might be able to help out some. - -I think we would live. - Would love to have Devon but the world is not going to come to an end if he signs with Maryland. - -ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY
But MD actually has TOUGHER competition for the PG spot than KU does, thats the funny thing about it. I really don’t understand what the hangup is, i don’t see any reason other than his buddy Wiggins is going to play there as a legit reason to go to MD over KU.
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@BeddieKU23 We mention his size and that’s very true. - I’m just kind of interested to see -how does he compare to the what 5’10 pg we had play for us when we won the Gold that played at SMU but he went with us - -what was his name? - -Nick Moore - is that right - -aren’t they about the same , and didn’t he do ok with our KU boys? - - Just curious , not saying I’m right or wrong on this - -just curious. - -ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY
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@RockkChalkk Me neither. - just when you figure you got these 18-19 yr old kids heads figured out - -I just don’t get it. - -But again like yo said - is he afraid to compete? - - - If what your saying about tougher at Maryland - -maybe HE see the competition of who we have it’s tougher I sure the hell don’t know anymore lol. - -ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY
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jayballer54 said:
@BeddieKU23 I for sure understand what your saying. - -I still don’t see why Grimes coming would be or has to be such a big issue with Dotson. - Again Grimes has said he would have no problem sliding over to the two. - There is no reason in hell why these two couldn’t co- exhist and be on the floor at the same time. - When Dotson on the bench , then slide Grimes to the one. - The more I hear and read , it’s sounds like to me that this family just wants a starting spot hand wrapped for him.
I think what really comes into play is where does DEVON want to go to school? - -Not Mommy – Not daddy - -but Devon , ya ya I know he wants to keep them happy - -I get that but in the end it should be Devon’s decision , he should be the one with the final say - he is starting his own life now. - -ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY
Kids say things they don’t really mean all the time. If Dotson picks KU and Grimes goes to Marquette (where he would start at PG) then we know that line was bunk…
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Ok, so here is a pretty simple question. - When all the fire and smoke clears - -Bottom line , Does Romeo Langford end up here at Kansas? - - -Yes OR No? - -what is the odds ?
I think we are looking at like a 50/50 chance right now - -I think it will come down to KU & Indiana - -I think about the ONLY reason for this is - -the closeness of home for him , that’s why Indiana is a serious contender here. - So let’s hear ya fella’s - Yes - -or No. - -ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY
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@jayballer54 I say yes, Langford comes to KU. Grimes goes elsewhere and Dotson i’m not sure on. The longer Dotson takes to decide the better i think the chances of him picking KU are. Dotson and Langford to go along with the two Bigs would be an amazing class.
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@HighEliteMajor Yeah, that one.
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RockkChalkk said:
@jayballer54 I say yes, Langford comes to KU. Grimes goes elsewhere and Dotson i’m not sure on. The longer Dotson takes to decide the better i think the chances of him picking KU are. Dotson and Langford to go along with the two Bigs would be an amazing class.
KU would have to really eff up the visit for Grimes to not be a Hawk imo. UK lingering is never good but KU can win this one.
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Tifwiw but it seems like UK can get Keldon Johnson if they want but are hoping for Grimes. Looks like this is why Johnson pushed his decision back. Bodes well for KU imo.
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RockkChalkk said:
@jayballer54 I say yes, Langford comes to KU. Grimes goes elsewhere and Dotson i’m not sure on. The longer Dotson takes to decide the better i think the chances of him picking KU are. Dotson and Langford to go along with the two Bigs would be an amazing class.
Langford cutting his list to 3 in November. - -ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY
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We have a good shot at Romeo, especially if Zion goes elsewhere. He did say this weekend he really likes Grimes and would be a fun guy to play with. I think we close on Grimes this weekend, but he’ll take the Marquette visit. Dotson could pop this week too. Still think KU.
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I’d rather have Romeo than Zion. Don’t @ me.
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Dotson made a cryptic post on twitter saying “Big Week ahead” and the hourglass symbol. Most are interpreting that to mean his decision will be announced this week. This would be an enormous get for KU if he commits here, with the talent that will be around him he will be a stud stud stud. He is the most important piece to the class in my opinion, keeping my fingers crossed.
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FarmerJayhawk said:
We have a good shot at Romeo, especially if Zion goes elsewhere. He did say this weekend he really likes Grimes and would be a fun guy to play with. I think we close on Grimes this weekend, but he’ll take the Marquette visit. Dotson could pop this week too. Still think KU.
Doesn’t sound like Grimes’ decision will be until late this year maybe even spring.
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RockkChalkk said:
FarmerJayhawk said:
We have a good shot at Romeo, especially if Zion goes elsewhere. He did say this weekend he really likes Grimes and would be a fun guy to play with. I think we close on Grimes this weekend, but he’ll take the Marquette visit. Dotson could pop this week too. Still think KU.
Doesn’t sound like Grimes’ decision will be until late this year maybe even spring.
He mentioned recently that he would like to sign early but also that he will commit when it feels right. So he could drag it out, or KU could close this weekend.
RockkChalkk said:
Dotson made a cryptic post on twitter saying “Big Week ahead” and the hourglass symbol. Most are interpreting that to mean his decision will be announced this week. This would be an enormous get for KU if he commits here, with the talent that will be around him he will be a stud stud stud. He is the most important piece to the class in my opinion, keeping my fingers crossed.
Rumours swirling for MD. I’m clinching my butt for the MD crystal ball run.
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BShark said:
He mentioned recently that he would like to sign early but also that he will commit when it feels right. So he could drag it out, or KU could close this weekend.
He just did an interview with rivals where he said he wants to see what the rosters look like and specifically said maybe December or spring. Like you said though, he did throw out the caveat that if it feels right he may just declare on the spot.
Rumours swirling for MD. I’m clinching my butt for the MD crystal ball run.
Oh no. What are you hearing? Anything with credible sources?
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@RockkChalkk Rumours on both sides. I’m not sure anyone really knows, but I’m nervous. Wake me up Friday, lol.
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I have news for everyone.
Its going to be a big adjustment getting used to life without Frank Mason.
He had the greatest final season of any KU point guard I can recall and my mental cobwebs stretch all the way back to 1962.
Devonte will be a way better than average point guard for KU. He might even have a great season and do some things better than Frank.
Devonte historically has been a player that spiked much higher than Frank for stretches, but Frank was like having Joe Montana at quarterback for the SF 49ers. The guy was just insanely reliable. Every time one got even a little nervous things weren’t going right he did something that was just about the exact thing that needed to happen. And he seemed never to get hurt, or to play through things that would have other players begging to go to the Mayo Clinic.
We can win big with Devonte. Devonte can make us like him as much or more than Frank. We can probably have stretches sky high excellence with Devonte that we could not have with Frank. But unless Devonte gets some kind of blood transfusion from Frank that migrates his steely genetic consistency, there just are going to be times this season when we are all needing something good to happen and Frank won’t be there.
Not a knock on Devonte. But I’ve never seen a point guard that consistent in so many ways before.
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matt sure isn’t confident anymore on DD. that always spells the worst. good grief kid
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@BeddieKU23 But this random poster making their first post sure is confident!
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BShark said:
@BeddieKU23 But this random poster making their first post sure is confident!
just like maryland’s random posters with their sources
In the end this is trending exactly the way it goes when we lose out
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Yeah. Lots of random “insiders” popping up for this one. And I agree, I don’t like the way this is going.
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BShark said:
Yeah. Lots of random “insiders” popping up for this one. And I agree, I don’t like the way this is going.
It is very weird there is no leaking information to the recruiting sites…We’ll see a CB run as soon as the recruiting site get word of how he’s doing the announcement. If he does twitter then maybe nobody knows for sure. But I would bet its some kind of planned announcement which will almost assuredly give out something that Slater/Meyer will hear
