2018 Recruiting Thread
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Honestly, I thought we would see a Duke or UK superteam overpower their way to another championship season. But not the case… At least it appears that way. Duke without a solid post depth or a starting 5, really puts them in a bind. Still a top 5 team in my mind though.
UK missing perimeter depth will hurt. Also a lack of shooting ability. I think they are going to have some post controversy and have to play a guy like Gabriel out of position some. Bamba wouldn’t have changed my opinion of them. They WILL have to play a slow paced game, much like they did with the 36-1 team, but with less talent. They don’t have the same kind of depth. And certainly not a shooter like Booker.
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BeddieKU23 said:
2018 Draft is going to have some real potential in it as well. Shaping up to be another good one IMO.
I don’t see Vick, Doke, Newman or Preston listed on Draftxpress. Draft.net has Vick 1st round and Preston, Newman Svi 2nd… With all these guys playing major roles on next years squad I think that will chance a bit
I think all could be gone. Newman and Preston extremely likely. I think Doke wants to as well, but his position is a dying breed in the NBA and if he doesn’t get great feedback maybe he stays?
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Kcmatt7 said:
@BShark Well I thought he would pick Duke personally.
But UK was crowded and Duke at least has minor competition for PT. Texas he will get to play as many minutes as possible and grow. Shaka has also gotten 2 guys drafted the past two years. One of them being a complete surprise in Ibeh after Ridley went down.
UT now at least a dark horse in the B12 depending on how good the freshies can all be.
He consistently mentioned how much he liked Shaka iirc. And yeah, it is also the path of least resistance.
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Kcmatt7 said:
Honestly, I thought we would see a Duke or UK superteam overpower their way to another championship season. But not the case… At least it appears that way. Duke without a solid post depth or a starting 5, really puts them in a bind. Still a top 5 team in my mind though.
UK missing perimeter depth will hurt. Also a lack of shooting ability. I think they are going to have some post controversy and have to play a guy like Gabriel out of position some. Bamba wouldn’t have changed my opinion of them. They WILL have to play a slow paced game, much like they did with the 36-1 team, but with less talent. They don’t have the same kind of depth. And certainly not a shooter like Booker.
UK might have to play Baker just to have someone that can shoot. Masking him on D shouldn’t be too hard with what they have at other positions.
I’m not scared of either UK or Duke this year.
Both are top 10-ish. Duke has talent but is thin and super young outside of tripper.
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@Kcmatt7 He will help them for sure on the defensive end, It’s my understanding that his offense is lagging behind the defensive side, kind of raw offensively - -only averaged like 12.8 in high School - -but will for sure be a rim protector and rebounding machine for them. Actually though - - Allen was a better AL AROUND player - -by far a lot better offensively, good rebounder - - - -Welcome to the Big 12 Bamba - - Welcome to THE PHOG - - ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY
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LMAO, UK board having a meltdown, it makes my day - -so many thinking he was for sure coming some of the posts were like follows:
WTF - - -to well he must not be concerned about winning - - to well at least he didn’t go to Duke - - to well this really lowers my expectations for the year - - to we needed him - - to well glad he didn’t come if he didn’t want the spotlight --to well he isn’t that good anyways - -ya, da, ya, da, ya, da. - - -ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY
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You just summed up how delusional that bunch is.
Bamba will probably thrive at Texas given he’s got no resistance for playing time. And with Coleman running the show they can put him in positions to get offensive rebounds and lobs which he excels at. Defensively he’s easily going to lead the Big-12 in blocks and be a + rebounder for his position. He is not polished offensively but he does have some moves and his wingspan is completely off the charts which will make him impossible to stop if he develops.
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Bamba is good for the Big-12, easily the biggest name and has the most pro potential in the league for next years draft.
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BeddieKU23 said:
Bamba is good for the Big-12, easily the biggest name and has the most pro potential in the league for next years draft.
Yeah the league badly needs more talent.
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@jayballer54 You said – “WTF - - -to well he must not be concerned about winning - - to well at least he didn’t go to Duke - - to well this really lowers my expectations for the year - - to we needed him - - to well glad he didn’t come if he didn’t want the spotlight --to well he isn’t that good anyways …”
That is exactly what we see here sometimes. Almost verbatim.
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@BeddieKU23 Ya off the charts is right. - -seems like they said what wasn’t it like 7’8 or something like that - -I’m sure not that far off - - -ROCK CHALK ALL ADY LONG BABY
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@HighEliteMajor Very True. - -ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY
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shaka
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@BShark ANyone know if Aaron is related to Andrew Wiggins?
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@BeddieKU23 Udoka having a big season this year could elevate him into the lottery…we shall see
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Lulufulu said:
@BShark ANyone know if Aaron is related to Andrew Wiggins?
No relation. Andrew has two older brothers, Nick and Mitch.
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I used to think I knew recruiting. But lately, I feel after some KU misses that I don’t know sh!t about recruiting. I know recruits, but just don’t understand their decisions.
UK and Puke seem to get pretty much whoever they want, year in and year out. I don’t get it. They simply don’t miss much on many of their recruits.
It’s like the Patriot…Bill needs to watch this scene and see if it works during recruiting.
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@Lulufulu I would be surprised if Udoka isn’t lottery. Before he was injured I thought he would be a Wooden candidate this year.
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Source that is well connected to the houston high school basketball scene told me today that he wants Kentucky
In regards to Grimes.
If true just get it over kid and let KU recruit someone else. No surprise here
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Another blurb on Grimes. He was matched up against fellow 5 star PG Immanuel Quickly recently at Adidas Gauntlet. Quickly, badly outplayed him. The next day Grimes rebounded with a big game.
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Rumour that JRE to KU is done and “known in AAU circles”.
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@BShark Who?
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@BShark Hey, you say is done. - -Like good for us done or another miss done, as we are losing out with him done? - -ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY
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I saw too that we are no longer a 100% get on Dotson. Been some movement for I think Florida. - - I know, I know everybody goo goo over grimes - -but I like Dotson also would be very satisfied to get him - -ya, everyone rather have Grimes - -I don’t think w will get grimes. - -MaMa might want him here BUT I don’t think he wants to come another fricken UK sucker boy kissin hind you know what for Kentucky. - -UK & Duke seems like they have it so much easier even over other blue bloods like us. - -They for sure get to pick and choose as soon as they show any interest seems like everyone else gets kicked to the curb. - -Makes recruiting soooooo easy for them, I’ll take Dotson. - -ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY
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jayballer54 said:
@BShark Hey, you say is done. - -Like good for us done or another miss done, as we are losing out with him done? - -ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY
KU lock is the word and that it is known in AAU and recruiting circles. He might take a couple other visits just to soak up the atmosphere. He also may verbal early, like before his SR year early.
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jayballer54 said:
I saw too that we are no longer a 100% get on Dotson. Been some movement for I think Florida. - - I know, I know everybody goo goo over grimes - -but I like Dotson also would be very satisfied to get him - -ya, everyone rather have Grimes - -I don’t think w will get grimes. - -MaMa might want him here BUT I don’t think he wants to come another fricken UK sucker boy kissin hind you know what for Kentucky. - -UK & Duke seems like they have it so much easier even over other blue bloods like us. - -They for sure get to pick and choose as soon as they show any interest seems like everyone else gets kicked to the curb. - -Makes recruiting soooooo easy for them, I’ll take Dotson. - -ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY
Grimes does like UK. I think taking Moore made Dotson reconsider a bit. KU definitely in play for both though. As well as Jalen Carey, who I am a big fan of.
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Interview with Slater, the best in the business.
All I have to say is Adidas better come through with this one or its time to bail
Grimes talking about KU and Self. Positives…
We don’t need to discuss who will make the final list yet, but can you talk about the message of some of the bigger programs?
Sure. Coach Self called and said I’m a top priority and that he plays a lot of guards and sees me bringing in something different than the other guards, because of my size. He said their known now for their guards, but that I would be unique because of being able to play point guard at that size.
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BeddieKU23 said:
Interview with Slater, the best in the business.
All I have to say is Adidas better come through with this one or its time to bail
Grimes talking about KU and Self. Positives…
We don’t need to discuss who will make the final list yet, but can you talk about the message of some of the bigger programs?
Sure. Coach Self called and said I’m a top priority and that he plays a lot of guards and sees me bringing in something different than the other guards, because of my size. He said their known now for their guards, but that I would be unique because of being able to play point guard at that size.
Was hopping on to post this.
I will also add he plans to cut his list to 5 within a few weeks. So it looks like he should be an early period signing.
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I hope he signs early. Put all our minds at ease…
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Brian Bowen ending up at Louisville. Jeez that just made them easily the Top ACC team going into next year
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BeddieKU23 said:
Brian Bowen ending up at Louisville. Jeez that just made them easily the Top ACC team going into next year
What a WEIRD 5* recruitment.
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BShark said:
BeddieKU23 said:
Brian Bowen ending up at Louisville. Jeez that just made them easily the Top ACC team going into next year
What a WEIRD 5* recruitment.
Imagine if we were involved with that one throughout. Strung along A LOT of teams then visits his 57th school in Louisville and decides that’s where he’s going on the wim.
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BeddieKU23 said:
BShark said:
BeddieKU23 said:
Brian Bowen ending up at Louisville. Jeez that just made them easily the Top ACC team going into next year
What a WEIRD 5* recruitment.
Imagine if we were involved with that one throughout. Strung along A LOT of teams then visits his 57th school in Louisville and decides that’s where he’s going on the wim.
Yeah pretty crazy. I know MSU and Oregon were heavily involved. Hell Creighton was being considered at one point and then out of the blue it’s Louisville.
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KU Class of 2017 Recruiting Class:
5
️Billy Preston4
️Marcus GarrettTransfers:
5
️Malik Newman4
️Sam Cunliffe2018 class
5
️Lawson, Dedric4
️Lawson, K.J4
️Moore, Charlie
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So much for Aaron Wiggins, he’s off the board to Maryland…
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BeddieKU23 said:
So much for Aaron Wiggins, he’s off the board to Maryland…
Pretty much expected.
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Dotson said he’d like to be a fall commit. Liked his comments about KU and the relationship he’s built with the coaches…
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BeddieKU23 said:
Dotson said he’d like to be a fall commit. Liked his comments about KU and the relationship he’s built with the coaches…
Is this on 247?
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scout interview
Who has really prioritized you? A lot of schools are doing a great job but the schools coming to mind are Kansas, Florida, Arizona, USC, Miami (Fl) is doing a good job, Wake and NC State.
What’s the next step for you? Looking to cut it down pretty soon and look at my options and talk with my family and see what school is the best fit.
Will you make a decision in the fall or spring? My goal is to make a decision by the fall time but you never know. Things can come up, things can change but that’s my goal right now.
What do you like about Kansas? I have already formed a relationship with all the coaches on the coaching staff, they have made me a priority, they say I can lead since day 1, and I took a visit out there and it’s great out there so it was a great visit.
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I like it, I like it a lot. He’s got a little bit of Frank to his game. When KU first got involved I was lukewarm, but he has really made some strides to improve. Jmo.
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@BShark Always have liked him, I know people like grimes better and I understand , it’s just Devon has kind of hit me from the get go, realy like his game for me? - - I hope he lands here. - -ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY
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jayballer54 said:
@BShark Always have liked him, I know people like grimes better and I understand , it’s just Devon has kind of hit me from the get go, realy like his game for me? - - I hope he lands here. - -ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY
Well, he is a true point guard and can create for others. I like Grimes and hope he is a Jayhawk, but optimally he would be the second ball handling guard on the court most of the time.
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Fully agree about Dotson, one of my favorite players in the class. KU has a great chance with him, Grimes & Carey. There’s little chance all 3 end up at KU but I don’t think we can go wrong getting any combination of the 2.
I just worry that Charlie Moore scares one of them away when these guys look at who’s in their way for playing time.
Dotson is the true point guard of the 3 and I think we would get at least 3 years out of him. I see him as a day 1 starter if he comes here.
With Grimes your getting a big guard with point guard skills. He’s most likely a 2 year player max, maybe even a OAD. Definite starter.
With Carey your getting scoring guard with point guard skills. Maybe his development takes a little longer, has a similar season that Devonte or Frank had as a freshman. Stunned he’s ranked in the 80’s still.
The staff better close on at least one of these.
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BeddieKU23 said:
Fully agree about Dotson, one of my favorite players in the class. KU has a great chance with him, Grimes & Carey. There’s little chance all 3 end up at KU but I don’t think we can go wrong getting any combination of the 2.
I just worry that Charlie Moore scares one of them away when these guys look at who’s in their way for playing time.
Dotson is the true point guard of the 3 and I think we would get at least 3 years out of him. I see him as a day 1 starter if he comes here.
With Grimes your getting a big guard with point guard skills. He’s most likely a 2 year player max, maybe even a OAD. Definite starter.
With Carey your getting scoring guard with point guard skills. Maybe his development takes a little longer, has a similar season that Devonte or Frank had as a freshman. Stunned he’s ranked in the 80’s still.
The staff better close on at least one of these.
Yeah I don’t think all three is possible due to Moore. All of them (rightfully) want to play. I’d say it’s probably one or the other with Dotson and Grimes, while Carey ends up a Jayhawk too. Now is it first to commit or does Grimes have preference? Only the staff knows that answer.
And yes Carey’s ranking is a joke at this point. Staff should, and probably would, take his commitment today.
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I’d take any of the 3 committing today and be ecstatic about it.
There’s no question there is plenty of minutes to go around with what we are losing after this season. And if I’m any of the 3 I wouldn’t be scared off by Moore, he’s not Newman or Graham that last years recruits mentioned as standing in their way…
I like that recruits are taking note of how KU is using its guards. Teams can no longer negatively recruit against us and the comments from these top guys has been positive.
Dotson is originally from Chicago. I wasn’t aware of that before. Could be a key factor for KU in that one…
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@BeddieKU23 Is there really plenty of minutes to go around at this point? We lose Graham for sure and have Moore replacimg him already. We lose Svi and Whitman for sure and have the Lawson brothers replacing them.
We know there’s a chance we lose Azubuike, Newman, and Preston, but that’s not a guarantee with any of them. With Garrett and Cunliffe already here abd Vick probably not becoming the featured back court guy until 2018, even if Newman leaves early, KU already has 5 guards for 2018 including all 3 starting spots unless someone flames out. There’s not really any backcourt minutes available for 2018.
The front court could be another issue if Azubuike and Preston leave, but not a guarantee either does. I know there’s lots of talk about 2018 guards, but I don’t see any way KU lands an early commit guard in 2018 with the personnel KU has projected back for 2018. I know Vick is on some 2018 mocks, but he’s going to be 4th option at best this season and may not even start this year. It’s essentially the same spot Svi was in last year, but Vick doesn’t have the international ties Svi does.
I’m not putting much stock in guard talk for KU’s 2018 class because there’s not any significant minutes available. All recruiting efforts beed to be focused on the front court vecause there’s a much higher probability of 1 or bith starting spots being available in 2018.
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I don’t believe Newman will be coming back after this season.
We already got lucky getting him 2nd time around and I think he’ll have a good enough season to get drafted in the 2nd round next year.
If he leaves there is plenty of room for PG’s, heck there’s a need for at least 1 ball handler even if he stayed.
The front-court is a wild-card. With the Lawson’s waiting I think Preston will look to be a OAD. If he returned, well Self will figure it out.
The hope of getting an elite big man will probably rely on some of them waiting until spring. Outside of the Top 4-5 bigs in this class there isn’t a ton of depth or immediate impact talent. A guy like Ian Steere is a type KU could land in the fall that has high athleticism, good size already and could develop.
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Unless KU pulls Bagley, Dedric Lawson is starting. Actually, they would probably both start.
If Doke and Preston return along with Dedric being there. Fuhhhhhgedddddaboutit.
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Going to need 2 PG/CG for sure. Don’t think we will see much in the way of wing commits though.
